Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of nightline@... Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 12:26 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [K-Designs-Multihull-Sailboats] A couple of questions about calculating building costs ? Hi Zachary,
I'm also building in the Netherlands and got all my plywood from van Styn??.
All epoxy and filling materials come from PolyService like Bernd already said.
Groeten, Jack
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hallo Bernd,
Hartstikke bedankt voor jouw aandachtig en uitgebreide antwoord op mijn vragen. Inderdaad het was wel een super lange bericht en nadat ik op verzend had gedrukt dacht ik "ja da's geen kort berichtje ? ", excuses daarvoor. Kwa ontwerp, ik had in mijn hoofd dat boven de vier meter te breed was om makkelijk binnenwateren te doorkruisen (ik weet het ik ben een oen en heb net wat Google onderzoek gedaan... en ja hoor als die joekels van acht meter plus er doorheen kunnen dan lukt 4,5m vast en zeker).
maar ja, mijn ideale boot zou een relatief klein boot om in aardig comfort (een plek te zitten, een plek te koken en wassen, een plek om de nodige boodschappen te doen, ergens om te slapen, en ergens om met een paar vrienden te kletsen) op te wonen die ook makkelijk zeilt ( ik ben nog een beginner). Ik was onder de indruk dat dit niet allemaal in ¨¦¨¦n boot kon, maar als ik naar jouw eco 75 kijk... she looks to tick all the boxes!
bedankt voor de extra info wat betreft hout en fused silica. Ik snap alleen niet helemaal de uitleg over multiplex (Nederlands is niet mijn eerste taal) met name deze zin "Maar uiteindelijk betekent 3 cm als je 1 laags paneel meer telt". Zou je deze misschien nogmaals kunnen uitleggen?
Wat het bouwlocatie betreft denk ik dat ik Holger ga na apen en beginnen met de kleinere onderdelen om dan alvast voor te bereiden te zijn voor wanneer ik eindelijk de grotere benodigde ruimte vind. Na jaren erover te hebben gedroomd en gepland zonder iets te doen wordt het eens tijd om daar verandering in te brengen.
Groetjes,
Zachary.
ps: weer zo een korte bericht... dat kort houden daar ben ik niet zo goed in ??
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hi Zachary, I never realised how close the Dutch language is because I can understand every word of Bernd's reply to you. Apart from the boring details about materials he is emphatically advising you to build the Duo 900 catamaran which I also agree with wholeheartedly. It is a great looking boat with usable accomodation and it looks fast just standing still.
Welcome to the forum and best wishes for whichever design you choose
regards
Bryan Cox
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hi Zachary,
I'm also building in the Netherlands and got all my plywood from van Styn??.
All epoxy and filling materials come from PolyService like Bernd already said.
Groeten, Jack
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Welcome on board, Zachary,
1. my planset and studyplan (both February 2017) are stating 2.50 m * 1.22 m so it schould be possible. But better ask Bernd, maybe he has changed it since. (I used 3.10 m * 1.53 m because my supplier was offering only this format.)
2. Same here. I used a table saw do cut the battens I bought to the right dimensions. You won't find every piece of wood you need for this build in proper dimensions from the shelf of your supplier.
3. I'm not a dutch speaker, but the dutch Wikipedia is calling it "Niet-kristallijne (amorfe) siliciumdioxide"?
4. I'm building my boat (Eco 62) in a large tent (8 m * 4 m) in my garden. Not easy but possible.
I have no intention to discourage you, just saying it will cost more and last longer than you think before.
Regards, G¨¹nter
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hey Zachary,?
I am dutch but to keep it readable for the rest of the people as well, I will keep it in english.
When it comes to all your glassfibre and filling needs I would like to recommend polyestershoppen.nl, here a direct link to the filling materials:?
For the plywood it is best to contact a woodsupplier like the Arnhemse houthandel:?
If they can't supply you with the right size you can always make a buttstrap or a scarf joint. Buttstraps are easiest but create a less flexible area around the joint, scarf joints seem a bit harder at the start but when you would make a scarfing jig for it(possible for circular saws or routers, whichever you have handy or you prefer) but at the plus side, with a scarfjoint it looks a lot better, is stronger overall and avoid the need for buttblocks.
If you would take a look at zeilersforum.nl, there is a member there that started making his 34 foot catamaran in a 40 foot shipping container, I believe his/her username there is ameezing.
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hi Zachary
It is very exciting to read about how you have taken the plunge!
To your questions:
1. 2500mmx1220mm plywood is normal. If for some reason you think you have to move the horizontal butt strap stringer because of the plywood, tell Bernd.?
2. You can use a table saw as an easy way to cut your stock into the size you want. The easiest way is to find stock already cut correctly in one dimension. I am not where you are, but I used 25mm x 140mm boards that were straight grained and did not have many knots. Most of the stringers are 25mm x something else, so I only had to cut them once. When I ran out of those, I bought a few 90mm x 90mm thick posts and ripped them with the table saw also. I had to be careful about knots. You can also make a jig to easily make your bevel cuts for your scarph joints. If you can¡¯t find good stock, one last option is to pay for a special order engineered wooden beam. It is like plywood in that it has veneers (layers) but all the grain runs in the same direction. Here it is called laminated veneer lumber, but it is only an option when the other stuff is not available because of the price.?
3. someone else must answer that, but my silica is called Cab-o-sil Fumed Silica M-5 by Cabot.?
4. A place to build is an important challenge. If you have to pay a lot for it, then time is not your friend. You can look for an empty lot and put up a greenhouse, but I think you could make either boat in a long garage. The sail boat you can make one hull at a time in a long narrow space, and the houseboat is only 2500mm wide. Keep looking. The process will help prepare you to solve other challenges with the build that need creative solutions.?
It sounds to me like the first thing you need to do is think deeply for a while about what you really want to do with the boat, as these two boats are quite different and have different needs and give you different opportunities. Clarity there will then clarify the exact needs of your garage or greenhouse.?
I wish you strength and clarity as you take the plunge! Remember this process is a series of challenges that prepare you for bigger challenges ahead.?
Kind regards
Patrick
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Re: New member specific interest
Howard,? there is not complete study plans. It is just enough for you to buy the actual plans. Remember Berndt have no office job, this is his job and income therefore all designers only supply enough info so a prospective customer can make up his mind to go forward or not. Regards Philip Malan
On Sunday, 7 November 2021, 18:21:57 SAST, HOWARD JORDAN <jordan845@...> wrote:
Hello I need the complate study pans .
Howard
On 11/05/2021 7:56 AM voya12m via groups.io <voya12m@...> wrote:
Welcome, Colin!
Patrick
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Zachary,? ? ??
1. The size is basically the difference between metric and imperial, so the 122 wide boards have been ordered 4' or 48" by 8' or 96" long. The difference is small and can normally be ignored. When cutting I normally do a nesting in other words I lay them out on the board to get the most economical use of the boards. In other words draw the parts first on paper and move them around for the nesting, I use a computer nesting program I have. Place smaller parts in the cutouts. Decide how you bare going to extend the board. Lapjoint or scarf then you can nest over the joints after it is made. In other words the material become as wide and long as you require. Berndt place the joints normally where it does not interfere with strength. Keep in mind that the joints for side bottom/top side should not be in line but staggered to reduce possible weak spots. Before you start cutting seal boards as per discussions.
2. Wood is sold raw at merchants so you buy a plank that can be cut and planed to give the required dimension. If you can afford it buy a circular saw jointer combination it will help you to process the planks yourself and save time in the long run.
3. Sorry I do not know? I do not think I ever used it and have built two boats.
4. Your build does not have to be fully covered, especially in the beginning. Start in the space you have and start with the smaller parts. Moisture and UV are your enemies when building. The Netherlands is full of farmland and industrial spaces, Talk to friends and family someone may have space for you.
5. Remember to protect yourself from the epoxy itself as well as the dust when sanding. At first you may not be sensitized to epoxy but it will hit you one day out of the blue and the it becomes a pain in the neck. If I have to do epoxy work at the moment I postpone it as long as possible.
6. Ask as much help as you need different perspectives help a lot.
Regards Philip Malanb
On Monday, 8 November 2021, 01:37:18 SAST, Zachary Cawthorne-Nugent via groups.io <zacharycawthornenugent@...> wrote:
Hello everyone!
A quick message from a long term lurker on here. This week was a big week for me in that i finally took the plunge and bought study lans for the eco62 houseboat and the duo900. If you want to skip my waffle there are some questions numbered below that I have been struggling with. Any input greatfully received!
I've been watching the houseboat builds on here and it was just the impetus I needed to actually get started doing something concrete towards my life long ambition to build a tiny (semi-)liveaboard! I was initially planning on building the houseboat because i just LOVE the design and kind of assumed it would be cheaper than a nine meter long sexy beast of a sailing yacht. I have also had many a dream about the duo900 ever since first seeing it four years ago. I am finally in a position where I can put a significant portion of my time and resources into building a boat (I am never diving into academia again!). As I am just starting my career path I do not have savings so the project will have to be financed month by month. Seeing as I am absolutely torn between the two designs (I love them both to pieces but assume the houseboat is more affordable, has lovely big windows, looks mighty comfortable, is adorable, and nice and small for meandering along, but it cant sail. the duo 900 more expensive/time consuming to build, a little less headroom, but possibly the sexiest boat i think I've even seen, and it sails, and has a higher load capacity) I have decided to price both up.
You can probably tell I am still a little undecided. Hence I thought I would study the study plans in depth and see if that makes decisions any easier. It didn't and I've come down to price to build being the determining factor. I can put 20 hours a week into the project and approximately 850 euros a month (I know its uncouth to talk about money but I figured you guys have actually built boats and know if these figures make sense, especially those building boats in the north of the EU). I am hoping to be done with the bare boat in around a year. Furthermore I have basic skills (I have made sheds, built decks, installed plumbing, electricity, insulation etc) but nothing quite on this level yet... but I'm sure that will come with time. Does this sound feasible?
If you have made it this far here are the questions I dont seem to be able to answer for myself:
1. I was looking at the plywood requirements and notices that the sheet size specified was 250x125. I could only find 250x125. I am in the Netherlands does anyone know of a dutch german seller that can supply that size and if not would 250x122 cause a problem (I am imagining so but would love to be proved wrong)
2. I noticed that many of the wood merchants don't seem to sell wood that is planed to the dimensions specified. How do people get around this? Do you mill down from the next size up or something like that?
3. For the dutch speakers here I am trying to find fused silica but seem to be coming up short. What is the Dutch word for fused silica?
4. Where do you build your boats? When I look around where I live I get a bit stumped. I can find garage spaces and the like but they always seem to be too small in at least one dimension. Does anyone have any tips?
Apologies for just suddenly barging on with question after question. I have kind of gotten a tad excited and the questions were coming thick and fast. Any help at all would be most welcome.
Warm regards,
Zachary.
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hi Zachary,
Welcome to the boat building excitement! I think if you manage to group your hours to longer periods you will speed up building tremendously. And/Or get a place close to build. Size of wood is not very important. But getting good wood is!? I¡¯m in the Netherlands too and have a duo1000 project that I¡¯m not going to finish. Too many cats and so little time..? But willing to help you get on your way with tips and tricks. You are welcome to visit. If you want to, drop me mail. Cheers Pepijn?
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Op 8 nov. 2021 om 00:37 heeft Zachary Cawthorne-Nugent via groups.io <zacharycawthornenugent@...> het volgende geschreven:
?Hello everyone!
A quick message from a long term lurker on here. This week was a big week for me in that i finally took the plunge and bought study lans for the eco62 houseboat and the duo900. If you want to skip my waffle there are some questions numbered below that I have been struggling with. Any input greatfully received!
I've been watching the houseboat builds on here and it was just the impetus I needed to actually get started doing something concrete towards my life long ambition to build a tiny (semi-)liveaboard! I was initially planning on building the houseboat because i just LOVE the design and kind of assumed it would be cheaper than a nine meter long sexy beast of a sailing yacht. I have also had many a dream about the duo900 ever since first seeing it four years ago. I am finally in a position where I can put a significant portion of my time and resources into building a boat (I am never diving into academia again!). As I am just starting my career path I do not have savings so the project will have to be financed month by month. Seeing as I am absolutely torn between the two designs (I love them both to pieces but assume the houseboat is more affordable, has lovely big windows, looks mighty comfortable, is adorable, and nice and small for meandering along, but it cant sail. the duo 900 more expensive/time consuming to build, a little less headroom, but possibly the sexiest boat i think I've even seen, and it sails, and has a higher load capacity) I have decided to price both up.
You can probably tell I am still a little undecided. Hence I thought I would study the study plans in depth and see if that makes decisions any easier. It didn't and I've come down to price to build being the determining factor. I can put 20 hours a week into the project and approximately 850 euros a month (I know its uncouth to talk about money but I figured you guys have actually built boats and know if these figures make sense, especially those building boats in the north of the EU). I am hoping to be done with the bare boat in around a year. Furthermore I have basic skills (I have made sheds, built decks, installed plumbing, electricity, insulation etc) but nothing quite on this level yet... but I'm sure that will come with time. Does this sound feasible?
If you have made it this far here are the questions I dont seem to be able to answer for myself:
1. I was looking at the plywood requirements and notices that the sheet size specified was 250x125. I could only find 250x125. I am in the Netherlands does anyone know of a dutch german seller that can supply that size and if not would 250x122 cause a problem (I am imagining so but would love to be proved wrong)
2. I noticed that many of the wood merchants don't seem to sell wood that is planed to the dimensions specified. How do people get around this? Do you mill down from the next size up or something like that?
3. For the dutch speakers here I am trying to find fused silica but seem to be coming up short. What is the Dutch word for fused silica?
4. Where do you build your boats? When I look around where I live I get a bit stumped. I can find garage spaces and the like but they always seem to be too small in at least one dimension. Does anyone have any tips?
Apologies for just suddenly barging on with question after question. I have kind of gotten a tad excited and the questions were coming thick and fast. Any help at all would be most welcome.
Warm regards,
Zachary.
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hello Zachary, ? As a builder of a recently completed Eco 6 sailing catamaran I will try and answer some of your questions. ? - Firstly you have chosen two very different designs, one being a small houseboat which is great for living onboard and cruising rivers. canals and coastal backwaters. The other is a reasonably higher performance yacht which is for a completely different kind of boating. Both boats are great for their intended purpose so it really depends on the kind of boating you want to do. For me I am a sailor and like performance sailing, so I would go for the yacht, but when I get old, I am only 68 at present, the houseboat my suit for some gentle pottering around our coast.
- Plywood sheet size ¨C I would not worry too much about this. Sometimes different manufacturers make their sheets to different sizes. 2400 x 1200 being the traditional standard size, but some make them 2450 x 1250. Sometimes you can also get much longer sheets. But the plywood is all going to be shaped and cut up so the actual sheet size does not matter too much. What does matter is the quality.
- Timber size ¨C You may not be able to get timber to the exact dimensions specified in the plans. For my build I purchased rough sawn timber and dressed it down to size myself. For this it is handy not have some good power tools. A table saw is nice to have, but at least a circular saw, and an electric plane. You also will not be able to get boat length timber so you will probably need to do a lot of scarfing. The important thing, especially in a sailing catamaran where weight is important, is to not go over dimension with the timber sizes, stay with what is specified in the plans.
- Where to build ¨C Ideally as close to home as possible. Building any kind of boat is going to take a lot of hours. At a guess as a first time boatbuilder the Eco62 is going to take you at least two years of part time work, and the larger sailing catamaran probably 3 or more years. If you build full time you will do it in less. The importance of this is that your building location wants to be close to where you live, otherwise it is going to be too hard to actually go and get on with the job. And be warned, it takes a very large amount of dedication, perseverance, and just plain hard work to complete any boatbuilding project.
- Not sure about the fused silica in your part of the world. I just purchase the appropriate WEST system additives which is usually identified as glue powder, filling and fairing powder, or light weight fairing powder.
? Good luck with it, ? David
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Re: A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hallo
Zachary
Een korte brief, grappjass.
Goed, daar gaan we. De
twee ontwerpen zijn heel verschillend en voor verschillende
toepassingen. Het is een appel vergelijken met een stuk vlees.
Wat
is je plan? Voor een aangenaam leven aan boord is de ECO 62 de juiste
keuze.
Voor snel zeilen is de DUO 900 perfect. Naar het leven
aan boord, minder. Wil je beide, neem dan de ECO 7.5. Een beproefde,
snelle en capabele zeilboot met goede accommodatie.
Multiplex
afmetingen kunnen een beetje irritant zijn. We kochten voor de
Pelican panelen van 2,5 x 1,22 m De punt is 2,5 x 1,25 is een
grappige mix. Komt van de 8 x 4 ft panelen. 4 voet = 1,22 m
Maar
uiteindelijk betekent 3 cm als je 1 laags paneel meer telt
Fused
silica krijg je van Polyserfice onder de naam Aerosol
Hout
kan op elke maat worden gemaakt. Genoeg bedrijven die dat
kunnen.
Tijd om te bouwen. Kijk hier hoe ver de werktijden uit
elkaar liggen. Ik ben ook een zeer snelle werker. Als je kijkt naar
de gegeven werkuren. Deze zijn van mij. Ik kan anderen niet geven,
omdat ik niet iedereen kan beoordelen hoe snel ze kunnen werken.
In
Nederland huurden we normaal gesproken een plek om te bouwen. Ook
voor ons was het een lange zoektocht. Daarnaast vind je hier idee?n.
Veel foto's staan ??hier in de fotomap.
Groetjes Bernd
Le lundi 8 novembre 2021, 00:40:18 UTC+1, Zachary Cawthorne-Nugent via groups.io <zacharycawthornenugent@...> a ¨¦crit :
Hello everyone!
A quick message from a long term lurker on here. This week was a big week for me in that i finally took the plunge and bought study lans for the eco62 houseboat and the duo900. If you want to skip my waffle there are some questions numbered below that I have been struggling with. Any input greatfully received!
I've been watching the houseboat builds on here and it was just the impetus I needed to actually get started doing something concrete towards my life long ambition to build a tiny (semi-)liveaboard! I was initially planning on building the houseboat because i just LOVE the design and kind of assumed it would be cheaper than a nine meter long sexy beast of a sailing yacht. I have also had many a dream about the duo900 ever since first seeing it four years ago. I am finally in a position where I can put a significant portion of my time and resources into building a boat (I am never diving into academia again!). As I am just starting my career path I do not have savings so the project will have to be financed month by month. Seeing as I am absolutely torn between the two designs (I love them both to pieces but assume the houseboat is more affordable, has lovely big windows, looks mighty comfortable, is adorable, and nice and small for meandering along, but it cant sail. the duo 900 more expensive/time consuming to build, a little less headroom, but possibly the sexiest boat i think I've even seen, and it sails, and has a higher load capacity) I have decided to price both up.
You can probably tell I am still a little undecided. Hence I thought I would study the study plans in depth and see if that makes decisions any easier. It didn't and I've come down to price to build being the determining factor. I can put 20 hours a week into the project and approximately 850 euros a month (I know its uncouth to talk about money but I figured you guys have actually built boats and know if these figures make sense, especially those building boats in the north of the EU). I am hoping to be done with the bare boat in around a year. Furthermore I have basic skills (I have made sheds, built decks, installed plumbing, electricity, insulation etc) but nothing quite on this level yet... but I'm sure that will come with time. Does this sound feasible?
If you have made it this far here are the questions I dont seem to be able to answer for myself:
1. I was looking at the plywood requirements and notices that the sheet size specified was 250x125. I could only find 250x125. I am in the Netherlands does anyone know of a dutch german seller that can supply that size and if not would 250x122 cause a problem (I am imagining so but would love to be proved wrong)
2. I noticed that many of the wood merchants don't seem to sell wood that is planed to the dimensions specified. How do people get around this? Do you mill down from the next size up or something like that?
3. For the dutch speakers here I am trying to find fused silica but seem to be coming up short. What is the Dutch word for fused silica?
4. Where do you build your boats? When I look around where I live I get a bit stumped. I can find garage spaces and the like but they always seem to be too small in at least one dimension. Does anyone have any tips?
Apologies for just suddenly barging on with question after question. I have kind of gotten a tad excited and the questions were coming thick and fast. Any help at all would be most welcome.
Warm regards,
Zachary.
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A couple of questions about calculating building costs
Hello everyone!
A quick message from a long term lurker on here. This week was a big week for me in that i finally took the plunge and bought study lans for the eco62 houseboat and the duo900. If you want to skip my waffle there are some questions numbered below that I have been struggling with. Any input greatfully received!
I've been watching the houseboat builds on here and it was just the impetus I needed to actually get started doing something concrete towards my life long ambition to build a tiny (semi-)liveaboard! I was initially planning on building the houseboat because i just LOVE the design and kind of assumed it would be cheaper than a nine meter long sexy beast of a sailing yacht. I have also had many a dream about the duo900 ever since first seeing it four years ago. I am finally in a position where I can put a significant portion of my time and resources into building a boat (I am never diving into academia again!). As I am just starting my career path I do not have savings so the project will have to be financed month by month. Seeing as I am absolutely torn between the two designs (I love them both to pieces but assume the houseboat is more affordable, has lovely big windows, looks mighty comfortable, is adorable, and nice and small for meandering along, but it cant sail. the duo 900 more expensive/time consuming to build, a little less headroom, but possibly the sexiest boat i think I've even seen, and it sails, and has a higher load capacity) I have decided to price both up.
You can probably tell I am still a little undecided. Hence I thought I would study the study plans in depth and see if that makes decisions any easier. It didn't and I've come down to price to build being the determining factor. I can put 20 hours a week into the project and approximately 850 euros a month (I know its uncouth to talk about money but I figured you guys have actually built boats and know if these figures make sense, especially those building boats in the north of the EU). I am hoping to be done with the bare boat in around a year. Furthermore I have basic skills (I have made sheds, built decks, installed plumbing, electricity, insulation etc) but nothing quite on this level yet... but I'm sure that will come with time. Does this sound feasible?
If you have made it this far here are the questions I dont seem to be able to answer for myself:
1. I was looking at the plywood requirements and notices that the sheet size specified was 250x125. I could only find 250x125. I am in the Netherlands does anyone know of a dutch german seller that can supply that size and if not would 250x122 cause a problem (I am imagining so but would love to be proved wrong)
2. I noticed that many of the wood merchants don't seem to sell wood that is planed to the dimensions specified. How do people get around this? Do you mill down from the next size up or something like that?
3. For the dutch speakers here I am trying to find fused silica but seem to be coming up short. What is the Dutch word for fused silica?
4. Where do you build your boats? When I look around where I live I get a bit stumped. I can find garage spaces and the like but they always seem to be too small in at least one dimension. Does anyone have any tips?
Apologies for just suddenly barging on with question after question. I have kind of gotten a tad excited and the questions were coming thick and fast. Any help at all would be most welcome.
Warm regards,
Zachary.
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Re: KD 122 Italy two build
Hi Patrick, the new BH4 B bulkhead has already been inserted (if you see the first photos) and is placed at 600mm from the BH5 direction of the original BH4.
The 600mm is the space to create the steps to go down into the hulls, the two new BH4, left side attaches to the master bedroom, the other attaches to the sofa and become structural.
Both the bedroom and the sofa are not modified while the two aft bedrooms do, I opened a door equal to the BH3 and move the bed surface towards the cockpit lockers so you can enter the room comfortably and get on the bed. (Bernd saw everything before building KD 122)
Back to the new BH4 B compared to the first KD 122 I installed the BH earlier because it is more comfortable now than later ....
However, under the messages I know or four photos where you can see the BH4B as it is put and you will understand or the first photo gallery kd122 Italy
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Re: New member specific interest
Hello I need the complate study pans .
Howard
On 11/05/2021 7:56 AM voya12m via groups.io <voya12m@...> wrote:
Welcome, Colin!
Patrick
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Re: KD 122 Italy two build
Hello I need the complete study pans .?
Howard
On 11/05/2021 7:56 AM voya12m via groups.io <voya12m@...> wrote:
Hi Domenico
Yes, I meant those. Good thinking.?
Another question: If you make a second BH 4 on both hulls, will you eliminate the hallway bed (bunk)? Also, will the steps down to the hulls be located forward of BH 4? I want to to this in the starboard hull but there is less headroom because of the deckhouse shape.?
Patrick
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Re: New member specific interest
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Re: KD 122 Italy two build
Hi Domenico
Yes, I meant those. Good thinking.?
Another question: If you make a second BH 4 on both hulls, will you eliminate the hallway bed (bunk)? Also, will the steps down to the hulls be located forward of BH 4? I want to to this in the starboard hull but there is less headroom because of the deckhouse shape.?
Patrick
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New member specific interest
Hello I've joined the group as I am interested in KD860 & have just bought the study plan Thanks Colin
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Re: KD 122 Italy two build
Hi Patrick
Do you mean these? Watertight compartments? Look at the two photos.
However, before the closure of the planking they will be glued first.
Even the internal hull plan between BH3 and BH6, the latter, however, will only be drawn and then placed at the end of construction.
Bye
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