Re: Eco 65 houseboat "Galadriel"
@ all
Is anyone able to help Chris to log in to this site? (Sorry, I'm not.)
He is a member of this group and receives the posts as emails, but without the login to yahoo he is not able to see any pics. (I remember that yahoo was changing something months ago and I also had trouble with log in. But I don't remeber how I resolved that problem. And now my computer does ist for me.)
Gru?, G¨¹nter
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Re: Build of ECO62 (houseboat) starts
Hello Heimfried
Clever idea, thanks for the explanation and pictures. Very practical and can be adapted to many boats under construction.
Cheers
Bernd
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Re: Build of ECO62 (houseboat) starts
To ease the handling of the hull, while dryfitting and glueing it to the bridge deck (I think this will afford several times of placing it and lifting again) I drilled 4 blind holes (25 mm diameter, 13 mm deep) through the side planks into the superstructure of the bulkheads. Then I glued in stainless steel drive-in nuts with a washer at the face. I have now 4 fixed-ponts (8 mm thread) for handling or fixing the hull.
The outer force/load has to be tight at the surface to prevent a considerable lever. Otherwise the fixed-points could or would break out.
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Re: Build of ECO62 (houseboat) starts
Nice blogs with lots of humor !?
Cheers, Hans
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Re: Build of ECO62 (houseboat) starts
Yes, Bernd,
we are in continous excange of news about our buildings in the German forum and it is very helpful to know the other guys. Each of us has an own building thread over there ¨C two of them with more than 1000 posts each.?
Gru?, G¨¹nter
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Re: Build of ECO62 (houseboat) starts
Hello Heimfried
Have you heard from the other thwo ECO 62 houseboat builder? Are the also in the German forum? One of the was very far. Not so important, but would be interesting
Viele Gr¨¹?e
Bernd
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Domenico
I rememeber vivit our sailing there. Okay from the other side (Vieste). I hope that the fish stand is better now as we where there (almost none). Hoew is it with mast and sail? Have fun
Bernd
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Re: Underwater paint in sweet waters
Examples of copper not tar in an epoxy mix antifoul coating:
Environmentally FriendlyBeing epoxy based?Coppercoat?is classified as non-eroding and causes less harm to the environment than conventional anti-foul paints. The complete treatment has been tested and approved by the Health and Safety Executive, in compliance with UK and EU law. Holding HSE Certificate Number 7532 our anti-fouling is fully approved for use by both professional tradesmen and the general public. Furthermore,?Coppercoat?fully complies with current (2001) International Maritime Organisation (IMO) Resolution MEPC.102(48).
How environmentally friendly is Coppercoat? Classified as non-leaching, this highly effective coating is considerably kinder to the environment than conventional self-eroding anti-fouls. The complete treatment has been tested and approved by the Health and Safety Executive, in compliance with UK and EU law. Holding HSE Certificate Number 7532?Coppercoat?is fully approved for use by both professional tradesmen and the general public.?Coppercoat?is tin-free and fully complies with current (2001) International Maritime Organisation (IMO) resolution MEPC.102(48). Within the UK?Coppercoat?is used by the Environment Agency.
What is the lifespan of Coppercoat? With an average thickness of 250 microns of?Coppercoat?being applied in a treatment, and a typical corrosion rate of less than 5 microns per year, it is easy to appreciate how this coating offers such long lasting and effective protection.
Cop-R-Bote Antifouling Paint 1.5 litre $297.40Depending on water temperature and the nutrients in the water, it does need a periodic wipe with a scotch brite pad to remove the bacterial slime. Provided this is done, it can last for many years, 5 maybe 7 maybe.... who knows. It is an ideal antifouling paint for multihulls which can be beached periodically at high tide to wipe the slime off and especially good for trailer boats which spend months in the back yard and then a period in the water. This antifoul is very hard and will resist the knocks and bumps of trailers or going on the beach.
This link given as an example of powdered copper availability... ?Obtain your own choice of powdered copper and add to your own choice of epoxy to make your own mix?for an?antifouling coating!
Graeme
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Re: Underwater paint in sweet waters
Correction
Epoxy/tar damages the far less as any other UW paint system besides Tevlon.....
Sorry Bernd
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Re: Underwater paint in sweet waters
Hi
An Epoxy/Tar mixtures damage the environment compared to any other system. Exemption Teflon, but there you have to clean every day. I agree, in sweat water PU paint?and cleaning the weed" is sufficient.
Best regards
Bernd? Kohler
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Underwater paint in sweet waters
Hi everybody!
Bernds advice of using an epoxy-tar mixture sounds better than using a commercial antifouling. However, in both cases you are dispersing prison into the environment.
Now I know by experience that you need to do something in a marine environment,? or else the growths are going to explode before the season's end. But how is that in a sweetwater environment? I suppose that at the worst some slimey weeds are going to attach themselves. Am I right in supposing you can remove those easily with a scotch brite or similar? In that case I would simply cover the underwater parts of the hulls with the same PU paint as the parts above the surface.
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Thanks Bernd Zeus sails along the coast of the Gargano National Park. The small port of Peschici is the only one with the clear water inside it :-))
I add some photos of the coast behind Peschici. ciao
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Ciau
Good appetite, and what deserved it is. I like the whole coast. Good that the bays are so small and no big marinas can mess everything up.
Ciau
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Thanks for this elaborate answer ! Cheers, Hans
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Re: Little Tri - novice questions
Ok thank you all. I will ignore the side panel drawing measurements and go with the keel drawing numbers. I may try to line up the bulkheads by center line and take some measurements before I cut the keel and the sides just to be sure though. Thanks again.
Max
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You are most welcome.:-)?
thank you Gerrit, I am new to groups, to yahoo and to this group, so I just now 9:30 pm on july 12 saw your message!!? I will try to get netter at this. thanks again
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Re: Little Tri - novice questions
Hi Max and Mike
Yes, this was the good explanation. A curve is as measurement?longer but straight?the boat has the good length. The rest?is correct, the transom thickness. By the way, I can imagine the insecurity of a new builder. I am one of these persons who make the work (for some boats to get the correct length) of the curvature. By the way, intolerances of patches of plywood are more inaccurate. So if the boat is a fraction to short or long, so what? you will feel no difference.
Bernd
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Hans, I cannot say that the wind ever bothers me, I am seldom sitting next to the sail, The boom does hit the cabin when running before the wind, but then I just lift it over. When running before the wind the sail is mostly away from me. when tacking into the wind with the sail in my face I just endure it for a while, I sometimes lay on my back with my head on the beanbag and looking forward below the sail.
My normal sitting position is at the back of the cockpit sitting on the beanbag leaning with my back to the cabin, this is very comfortable. The boat sail very dry. sometimes when I go out hardly any drop of water falls on me. On the sea with the longer swells it is very dry. On the Dam/lake with a short chop and about 15-20 knts sailing into the wind it can be a bit wet but not too much.
The boat sails flat or straight with no hobby horsing, the other day I sailed about four km to one sailing club with my 2 L coke bottle full of ice water standing upright the whole trip, which included several course changes.
As for speed I cannot really tel as I do not have any instrument, (4 - 6 knts) but sailing around the dam with other boats I keep up with a Stadt 23 running downwind, and even tacking into the wind. Look this is no racer, it is a cruiser, I added 2 sqm to the sail due to the low wind situation inland. Compared to my Hoby 14, I would say it is a slower and does not give the adrenalin rush but it sails much much dryer and more comfortable.
When sailing with passengers like children which climbs all over and sit near the ends it is very clear that the boat is very weight sensitive. But sitting in the center so to speak it is no problem. Maybe stretch it a little I am tall and would have liked 150 t0 200 mm more in the cabin.
I tie the boom to the mast with a strap with velcro and the point of the boom with a piece of line. so for longer tacks I move the sail downwind of the mast which is very fast and easy to do as only have to undo the velcro and repress it back afterwards.
I can really recommend the Cataproa, I push it from the hoby trailer by guiding it with a strap between the hulls so I can steer it, sraight into the water while my tailboard of the trailer is over water but above water. Recovering is the same and I just winch it on after lifting the front on the rollers. You can have all your comforts with you stored away safely and dry. when camping you can prepare food outside or inside while you sit comfortable. Sleeping inside or out, sleeping inside when it rains will be quite comfortable. My previous boat was a Didi 26 racing keelboat and I can assure you the Cataproa is much less work and much more comfortable. It is the ultimate one person boat, with the ability to be used by two adults for a daysail or with kids. Greetings from South Africa Philip
On Thursday, July 12, 2018, 10:05:16 PM GMT+2, hanszilver@... [k-designs] wrote:
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Hi Philip,
Nice boat you have.
I'm curious as to how it feels if you sail with wind the wind comming from your "rig hull", and the sail is over the trampoline/deck. Is you sight line blocked a lot / is it windy if you sit so close to the lee of the sail / how does it work if you want to let the sail out and run before the wind (doesn't the boom hit the cabin?) ?
Also I'm curious? what kind of speed you sail at, and how the boat handles waves (especially how dry you can stay on the deck).
I'm asking because I'm daydreaming about upgading (?) my little tri to a cataproa.?
Greetings from Amsterdam, Hans
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thank you Gerrit, I am new to groups, to yahoo and to this group, so I just now 9:30 pm on july 12 saw your message!!? I will try to get netter at this. thanks again
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Hi Philip,
Nice boat you have.
I'm curious as to how it feels if you sail with wind the wind comming from your "rig hull", and the sail is over the trampoline/deck. Is you sight line blocked a lot / is it windy if you sit so close to the lee of the sail / how does it work if you want to let the sail out and run before the wind (doesn't the boom hit the cabin?) ?
Also I'm curious? what kind of speed you sail at, and how the boat handles waves (especially how dry you can stay on the deck).
I'm asking because I'm daydreaming about upgading (?) my little tri to a cataproa.?
Greetings from Amsterdam, Hans
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Bernd Kohler
Robert Twiss
Philip Malan