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That would be great to meet and discuss a plan. I am actually living in Siracha, Thailand, about 100km south east of Bangkok and 30km north of Pattaya. You can contact me on Line. My ID is alaindupuisost. Looking forward to talking to you.

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Best Regards,

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Alain

Hi Pete!?
Thanks for posting the pics and video links - they look great.?

Would you mind posting a pic or two of the forward end of the boom where it attaches to the mast? I am very interested in your thoughts on the wishbone boom.

Also, do you have a list of things you would have made differently if you could??

Thanks heaps!

Patrick

Hi Hamka,

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Fellow Singaporean here!!? Use to own a mono 30 ft hull yacht in New Zealand. Gave it away during covid because it was stuck in boatyard for 3 plus years. I am a newbie to catamarans, so no experience here. Interested also in building a KD860.? Trying to see if can get like minded people here in the same location to discuss their plans for KD860 build.? Maybe build in Thailand or Malaysia??? Share knowledge and resources??? I contacted CKD boats in South Africa which use to sell KD860 kits but they said they did not make the KD860 kit anymore, and suggested and quoted an alternative the Proteus 106 kit at Rand 340 000 (SGD 50k).? A bit pricey for materials if you ask me!! However, the designer of Proteus not open to customization........when I ask whether it could use a kite engine, so quite disappointed.? Bernd is quite a nice guy by his responses, so I look forward to starting my project in 2025,

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Cheers,

Conrad

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Hi Alain,

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Congrats on your move to Thailand........;land of smiles' and retired expats!!!? Lol lol.? I am located in Singapore like Hamka, and quite interested in building a barebones KD860 and power it using a kite engine and solar.

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Have you started on your boat build?? I think there are a few people interested, and I intend to start my KD860 project in mid 2025.? Possibly pool knowledge and resources, and maybe start a club.......ha ha ha ha?

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Conrad

Hi XungYung,

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I am planning on using a professional boat builder or DIY for the KD860...........looking in Thailand.? I think the other people interested is Alain and Hamza.? I intend to start this project sometime in 2025.? Maybe we can get together for a better build price from a boat builder or pool resources.? I am located in Singapore like Alain and Hamza.

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Let see where this goes!! lol lol....?

Hello Slawek

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Thank you for this generous contribution.

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?I have sent you a private letter. Please forget these.

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Kind regards

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Bernd?

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Hi Pete

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?I appreciate your contribution to covering the group costs.

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Best regards

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Bernd

Hello Pete

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Thank you very much for the pictures and the video clips.?

I had to smile while looking at the brackets (barnacles).?

Underwater paint and barnacles and other nice UW animals and plants are a story by itself.

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I suppose the sailing season is over for this year.?

Have a good time. Please keep us informed about your sailing adventures!

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Cheers

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Bernd

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Hello

Long time since I visited here. This group was very important for me when I was building my boat. I sent my 5 euros to you Bernd. I wish Kohler boat builders can have this informative forum in future,

Best regards,
Pete

Hello all!

I posted some pictures in KD860FI folder taken last summer. My family and friends enjoyed sailing. I was little disappointed in the speed of the boat: year ago it was quite easy to make 10 knots, but this summer only a couple of times. When I lifted the boat I saw the explanation, lots of bay barnacles. I have to take better care of antifouling.

, and are some sailing videos.

Cheers!
Pete

Pete Hill's stretched KD860 is for sale here in New Zealand. It has a wood stove, like what you want. You could buy it and sail it home. It has already been round the world.?

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In any case I think you need something larger than 6 metres for extended living aboard, and also a boat that is left for 1 or 2 years unattended is likely to need maintenance no matter what it is built from. That is, if it is even there when you get back to it after the 2 years are up.?

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Anyway, it is good to think about all these things. Best of luck

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regards

Bryan

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It is always good to try to be realistic ;-))

I like the Goose Explorer from Perttu.? A nifty and easy-to-build boat. Have fun.

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The ECO 65 is a logical choice for what you want.

The boat is easy to beach. Nothing in the way. No keel or other UW obstructions.

Rudders and boards can be retracted.

Fitting out, electric and electronic, is what you want. There is room for solar collectors on the deck.

I am against wing extensions. There is a lot of resistance at high wind speeds till dangerous.

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In the meantime

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have fun

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Bernd

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Currently I am rounding up the options what I would be able to build and what would most fit my usage. I am also lining up my use case as realistic as possible, its not fully settled yet. I am working currently to complete small 3.5meter goose explorer. This will be only to sail baltics. The next project would be something larger to build that would allow better to live on board for longer periods.?

Current outlines are:
- Lasting for years
- Anything can be self fixed
- Would sleep 2-4 person
- Suits beaching for kitesurfing purposes (especially summer travel)
- Mount, Mini dinghy/sups when cannot access directly to beach.
- Can be left for year or two without worry and then go continue sail when schedule allows.
- Running laptop, fridge, cooker with firewood, small heater (ie. 100w electric blanket or oil heater or something along those lines) (400w-800w solar, most likely fitted on back end wing extension)

I am currently 34 years and would love to build boat that would support me for coming 10+ years without breaking the bank.?
The build would start when I can spare 2-3 months full time focus on minimum to get going. It might take longer to finish but should be standing the weather at that point. This might be on coming year or in 5 years. Just want to have this tought out when the window of opportunity comes to realize it.

I was very interested in this mast for the eco 6. Is it possible for you to send me the drawings with measurements for the eco6? How much would this cost?

Hi Peets

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as Bernd has suggested, plus in earlier discussions you started, there are often options for rigs. In other words you could have a rig on the 6 that is simple and effective, or one that is sophisticated and expensive. Some of these points were raised in your earlier posts, when talking about designs.

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Im a bit curious to know exactly you want from a design as in your earlier posts you talk about voyaging from Finland to the Med. Of course the simplistic answer is a large boat will do the job easier, but on the other hand a trailable boat could be towed from country to country with frequent stops to enjoy day or overnight sailiong at desirable areas. Could you explain a bit better what you are looking for??

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BTW I worked in the marine paint and resin industry for many years, and naturally there were quite a few sailors and boat enthusiasts there since staff benefits for boat building supplies were obvious. The favourite answer to the question in the lunch room of "WHAT BOAT SHALL I BUILD/BUY?",? was 'WHATEVER YOU WILL GET THE USE OUT OF".??

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cheers

Bryan

Thanks for pointing out the facts.

So more logical way would be fitting eco 6 with something similar to wishbone rig.?

Do you see some negative sides on going wishbone on eco 6?
Would it be affecting sailing characteristics in meaningful way?
Lets say something like performing less to upwind? or losing sailing speed??

I was thinking I could make the hollow wooden mast, I just finished one for small sailing boat. This would also keep the cost down, and be easy to rebuild if need be one day.