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Re: Pat Martino

Ilkov, Alen
 

Btw, for North Californians - Pat will be playing at
Stanford tonight with Eric Alexander:



He's part of the faculty at the jazz workshop that I'm
taking there this week, they didn't say yet what kind of
teaching he's going to do, maybe just a lecture.

Alen

-----Original Message-----
From: sribeme@... [mailto:sribeme@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:53 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Pat Martino


Pat will be playing in LA at Catalina's the 7th through the
12th...I'm traveling up from Phila to catch his act. Not a
bad excuse to go to California!

Check him out if you have a chance. A very special and
inspirational player. He is best viewed in "real time" trust
me, an experience to be treasured!

David Rudick


Wholetone and Diminished scales

 

Anyone know some good excercises to really utlizing these two scales.
i understand their chordal relationship but having a hard time really
using them naturally. and any specific tunes you can think of that
really exploit these scales.


Re: Pat Martino

 

No, you misunderstand! I live in Phila. and see him there
and study with him...this is just an excuse to boogie on
down to another town. It is a "jazzy" way to live and it is
big fun!!!!

David


Re: Pat Martino

Goosenberg, Eric
 

David (or anyone else from the Philly area) -

Too bad you have to go to California to see a guy who lives
in South Philly. I wish he played near home more often.
He'll be playing somewhere in Philly in mid-September.

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: sribeme@... [mailto:sribeme@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 12:53 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Pat Martino


Pat will be playing in LA at Catalina's the 7th through the
12th...I'm traveling up from Phila to catch his act. Not a
bad excuse to go to California!

Check him out if you have a chance. A very special and
inspirational player. He is best viewed in "real time" trust
me, an experience to be treasured!

David Rudick


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

 

Hello Ian, good to hear from you. Where are you based?

Regards

Vernon


Boston, USA: Show

David E. Lee
 

If anyone is around Boston (Somerville), Ma this wed, I want
to let you know about a show: John Abercrombie, Mick Goodrick, Steve Swallow and Gary
Chaffee will be at Johnny D's in Somerville this Wed. Aug 8.
Please come by and check it out. David


Re: New Member Introduction

8th-note
 

I have that 'Buddies' album, on LP. I think Breau only plays on one tune -
can't remember for sure. It's a good record.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Gorman" <gorman@...>
To: <jazz_guitar@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: New Member Introduction


Yeah, I like Lenny too - especially "Cabin Fever", plus
those albums he made with Buddy Emmons (anyone know where I
can find those?)

Minors Aloud w/ Buddy Emmons and Lenny Breau is available
here, recording # A-064. Also, Breau is on A-065, entitled
"Buddies," which is Buddy Emmons and Buddy Spicher.


Steve





Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

 

Yeah, I'm studying what Emmons did on Oleo right now.
I dont care for modern Country, but some of those guitar
players are intense. Especially the ones who kind of
mix it with the bebop stuff.
The Brent Mason video is cool. He does a mean George Benson
when he wants to.
Have you heard the CD "redneck jazz explosion" w/ Gatton and Emmons
from '79. It's like an encyclopedia of how to play. And neither of
them ever repeat themselves.
-Mark

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Steve Gorman" <gorman@g...> wrote:

Buddy Emmons: another chordal genius. There's a lot of them.

Oh man, Emmons plays jazz with a vengence on that C6 pedal
steel guitar. My first exposure to much of the standard jazz
repetiore was from his "Steel Guitar Jazz" album from '62.
Indiana, Cherokee, There WIll Never Be Another You, etc....
I think that Emmons is a bit too obscure for some, since he
plays pedal steel he gets considered country. But his early
albums were a big part of my intro to jazz guitar, and he
plays a lot hotter than many folks realize is possible on a
pedal steel guitar. Truly a heavyweight....

Steve

[Non-text portions of this message have been remove


Re: Two interesting guitarists

Mark Stanley
 

What ever happened to Jimmy Rosenberg and Sinti?
He was unbelievable!!


--- Rick <e_goosenberg@...> wrote:

I've fairly recently come to know about two
guitarists who
haven't made it to the USA and who are outstanding
players:

Antonio Forcione - He's from Italy (duh) but seems
to be
best known in the UK. He has a bunch of great albums
on
acoustic guitar on the British Naim-Audio label.
When I can
locate it, I'll give the list the URL to a 20-plus
minute
long concert of his that's great if you (unlike me)
have a
fast Internet connection.

Joscho Stephan - A German guitarist who plays in the
Gypsy
jazz style of Django, early Bireli Lagrene, Jimmy
Rosenberg,
Christian Escoude, and I've left out many. His
technical
abilities are scary. He does mostly Django stuff and
jazz
standards, but also has some great original tunes.
His two
CDs are called Swinging Strings (1999) and his
recent
release is Swing News. Great playing if you like
Gypsy jazz
guitar.

You can find their music through European dealers at
www.gemm.com, and Forcione has an official Web site
at


Rick


Re: New Member Introduction

Ross Ingram
 

I agree, I like Lenny too. Does anyone know where to find "Lenny Breau
Now"(solo guitar). It was released on vinyl and sold on an independant
label out of a magazine (Guitar Player??). I had a tape of this and
still have a photocopied transcript of this album>>>Ross

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Gorman
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 4:27 PM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: New Member Introduction

Yeah, I like Lenny too - especially "Cabin Fever", plus
those albums he made with Buddy Emmons (anyone know where I
can find those?)

Minors Aloud w/ Buddy Emmons and Lenny Breau is available
here, recording # A-064. Also, Breau is on A-065, entitled
"Buddies," which is Buddy Emmons and Buddy Spicher.


Steve


Two interesting guitarists

Rick
 

I've fairly recently come to know about two guitarists who
haven't made it to the USA and who are outstanding players:

Antonio Forcione - He's from Italy (duh) but seems to be
best known in the UK. He has a bunch of great albums on
acoustic guitar on the British Naim-Audio label. When I can
locate it, I'll give the list the URL to a 20-plus minute
long concert of his that's great if you (unlike me) have a
fast Internet connection.

Joscho Stephan - A German guitarist who plays in the Gypsy
jazz style of Django, early Bireli Lagrene, Jimmy Rosenberg,
Christian Escoude, and I've left out many. His technical
abilities are scary. He does mostly Django stuff and jazz
standards, but also has some great original tunes. His two
CDs are called Swinging Strings (1999) and his recent
release is Swing News. Great playing if you like Gypsy jazz
guitar.

You can find their music through European dealers at
www.gemm.com, and Forcione has an official Web site at


Rick


Re: New Member Introduction

Steve Gorman
 

Yeah, I like Lenny too - especially "Cabin Fever", plus
those albums he made with Buddy Emmons (anyone know where I
can find those?)

Minors Aloud w/ Buddy Emmons and Lenny Breau is available
here, recording # A-064. Also, Breau is on A-065, entitled
"Buddies," which is Buddy Emmons and Buddy Spicher.


Steve


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

Steve Gorman
 

Buddy Emmons: another chordal genius. There's a lot of them.

Oh man, Emmons plays jazz with a vengence on that C6 pedal
steel guitar. My first exposure to much of the standard jazz
repetiore was from his "Steel Guitar Jazz" album from '62.
Indiana, Cherokee, There WIll Never Be Another You, etc....
I think that Emmons is a bit too obscure for some, since he
plays pedal steel he gets considered country. But his early
albums were a big part of my intro to jazz guitar, and he
plays a lot hotter than many folks realize is possible on a
pedal steel guitar. Truly a heavyweight....

Steve


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

 

Hi Vernon
I also have a guitar by Ken Walton number 001 made in 1983.
Nice to hear of another owner.
Best wishes
Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: <vernonhlp@...>
To: <jazz_guitar@...>
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing


Hello E175 guy, I have the same guitar as you which I run
through a Polytone Mega Brute and get quite a good sound. I
am in the process of buying a Ken Walton "Waltone" hand made
arch top guitar. Ken lives and works in Spennymoor, County
Durham in the UK.

I wish you all the best with the playing.

Best Regards

Vernon Fuller
St Helens, England


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

Mark Stanley
 

Hi. I think the best ways to learn how to play jazz
are to study w/ someone real good, take stuff off
records a lot, and practice improvising. No one ever
told me that last one, but it's really important. Tape
yourself improvising, over changes or not, w/ a
metronome and listen back to see if you are rushing or
not playing w/ feeling etc. If you let yourself
practice w/ bad time, you will have bad time. As far
as chords, I learned a lot very young by learning
every song, note for note on Wes Montgomery's
"incredible jazz guitar" recording. I still find new
chords all the time, though, by practicing a standard
in one position (Wayne Krantz's "Zone Playing"
approach).

Example: take "Giant Steps" and play so every finger
never leaves the fret position it's on. So my first
finger is only allowed to play notes that fit the
changes on the first fret on all 6 strings. On a B
major 7 chord it would be A# on the A string, D# on
the D string and G# on the G string and that's it. No
other notes on the first fret are in the key of B
major (unless you want to grab a #11). You use the
other 3 fingers the same way-each stays on it's own
fret. You can do this as a single line or chord
exercise. Then shift your hand up a fret to the next 4
fret "zone", and keep doing this all the way up the
neck. You'll start to see pieces of chords you never
thought of and you'll start to be able to improvise
with out thinking about "Oh, it's a Db 7 chord so I'll
play a Db7 mixolydian scale". You learn to see what is
available to play w/ out running scales starting from
the root, etc.

I assume that because you've been playing so long that
you know the modes. That is the first place to start.
Mick Goodrick's "The Advancing Guitarist" is a must-
have book for anyone who wants to work on this stuff.
Also the Abersold books and CD's are great. I've been
getting a lot more into them lately.
I hope that made a little sense.
Mark

PS I learned a whole bunch of chords that are very
"un-guitaristic" from Mcoy Tyner's intro to Someday My
Price Will Come off the Miles record of the same
title. For that matter, any Monk recording will give
you a whole set of new chords to work with if you can
pick out what he's playing. Buddy Emmons: another
chordal genius. There's a lot of them.



--- v.ingle@... wrote:

Hi Everyone,
I've been a guitarist for 35 years, played rock,
country,
even some classical in college, I got tired of it
all. I
started to listen to the old masters Wes, Kenny
Burrell,
Barney, Herb, and Joe Pass, just to drop a few
names. I fell
in love with the guitar all over again. Pat Metheny
really
turned me on, I blame him for really getting my fire
going
again, but I need some help, this stuff is really
hard to
learn, what have I gotten' myself into ! I've got a
Washburn
J6S, Wes Montgomery model, it's alright, the size of
an L-5,
with a spurce top, so it sounds good accousticly and
amplified. I would really like an ES-175D. I need
help
learning, I have education in theory in high school
and in
college. I can improvise ok, where I really need the
most
help is chords, and chord substitution. Can anyone
suggest
software I can use to help, any help will be greatly
appreciated.
THANKS. ES175guy


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing - Number 2 Reply

 

Hello again, I just read Steve Gormans E Mail regarding the
book Joe Pass Guitar Style and can only agree..it's a great
book. You can get a tape that goes with it with Joe playing
some of exercises etc from the book.

Best Regards

Vernon Fuller
St Helens, England


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

 

Hello E175 guy, I have the same guitar as you which I run
through a Polytone Mega Brute and get quite a good sound. I
am in the process of buying a Ken Walton "Waltone" hand made
arch top guitar. Ken lives and works in Spennymoor, County
Durham in the UK.

I wish you all the best with the playing.

Best Regards

Vernon Fuller
St Helens, England


Re: New Member Introduction

 

My favorite Jimmy Rainey album is "Live In Tokyo"; great trio music.
I think it's from a Japanese label if I recall correctly, but well
worth pursuing.

Hank Garland really only made one major jazz album, "Jazz Winds From
A New Direction" (although there are a few others - "After The
Riots", "Jazz in NY"). It's a classic. Gary Burton was all of 17 when
he recorded this, too.

Yeah, I like Lenny too - especially "Cabin Fever", plus those albums
he made with Buddy Emmons (anyone know where I can find those?)

-Jim

--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Mark Stanley <bucketfullopuke@y...> wrote:
Hi David,
I'm actually new to Jimmy Raney. Could you recommend
any records by him? Do you ever listen to Lenny Breau?
He was wonderful at creating chord melodys. Very
unique approach: he would always have a couple fingers
grabbing hip chordal ideas while the other fingers
would solo. Kind of like a piano player with only a
left hand. He also used some incredible flamenco and
country techniques. He's my favorite of all time.
Also, does anyone know any good records to hear Hank
Garland? He is supposed to be fantastic.
-Mark


Re: I'm new at this Jazz Guitar thing

Steve Gorman
 

I can improvise ok, where I really need the most help is
chords, and chord substitution. Can anyone suggest software
I can use to help, any help will be greatly appreciated.
THANKS. ES175guy

"Joe Pass Guitar Style," from Mel Bay publications taught me
a lot about chords and subs... Great book, no TAB. I also
really like one from Fred Sokolow, called "Jazzing it Up,"
where he takes ordinary every day songs and plays and
explains lots of chord substitutions. Sokolow may not be a
household word among jazz guitarists, but he is a great
teacher. Also, his video "Playing and Understanding Jazz
Guitar" is very good, a great introduction to jazz guitar
for someone who already plays other styles well

Steve


Re: Hank Garland [Was: New Member Introduction]

Mark Stanley
 

Thanks Rick,
I'll get it.
Mark

--- Rick <e_goosenberg@...> wrote:

Mark -

If you want to hear Hank Garland's jazz, look for
"Jazz Winds from a New Direction." With him on the
album are Gary Burton on vibes, Joe Benjamin on
bass, and Brubeck's drummer Joe Morello. It's an
outstanding album, and it's in print on CD.

Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Stanley
To: jazz_guitar@...
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] New Member Introduction

[SNIP]
Also, does anyone know any good records to hear
Hank Garland? He is supposed to be fantastic.
-Mark