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Ok, I've learned a lot from this 9 year old, and his dad of course.

What I learned is that memorizing a transcription of Pasta Blues is one hell of a way to learn jazz blues. There is just so much material there to play with.

Now, I want to learn segments of it myself. It is just beautiful and I've never heard it before. I can't believe that I haven't.

Is this piece transcribed and available? Where would one look? Unlike this kid, I have a day job and no dad standing over me with a whip.

I'd be extremely proud of myself to learn even the first one minute of it. It is an awesome composition featuring the typical Pass wit and humor line after line.

But more than that it is something of a Rosetta Stone to me of what jazz blues can be on the guitar. Now that is something that I would devote 6 months to.

john

This 1936 recording of Bob Wills's Steel Guitar Rag grabs me today. Great pocket, relaxed tempo.

On 11/23/2010 1:01 PM, Ron Becker wrote:

Thank you some.
Fishbowl....hhhmmmmm, I am setting five feet away from 30 feet of
thermopane glass but the people look like trees and sky and a pine
covered ridge that ascends into a 10 thousand foot mountain.

Yes, but if you look closely at the outside edges, you'll see a slight curvature. Also, remember that before 1983, you looked 5 pounds lighter.

No, my child, you are wrong. You didn't give up on TV; it gave up on
you.

Dang how could I have missed that. Thank you some.
Fishbowl....hhhmmmmm, I am setting five feet away from 30 feet of
thermopane glass but the people look like trees and sky and a pine
covered ridge that ascends into a 10 thousand foot mountain. There is
not one sign of humanity that I did not create. Poor me.......

Ron
Living and playing outside the box.



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If you go to
and click on view scientific paper you can read an account published 1770 about a visit the 9 year old Mozart had to England, in the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society.
Interesting in at least two accounts:
1. he demonstrated his unique abilities
2. PR existed in similar form as today.

Elliot

Charles Glasser wrote (re Albert King):

As a young player I was lucky enough to see him several times when he came

through NYC, and finally got up the nerve to talk to him and get some advice
about playing "real" blues.

It was: "Son, you be playin too many notes."

I see that there is a new Doors CD coming out recorded live in my town of
Vancouver, BC in the early '70s which has Albert King playing with them on
the gig. I'm not a Doors fan at all, but King opened the show for them that
night, then the band insisted that he stay up on stage and keep playing!





John.







Reciprocity

Hi Dave,

Ohhhh, I think I get it. the protection is already in place, and they're
just ignoring it's enforcement. The "new" legislation is just another way
for them to justify their jobs. FUUUUUCCCCKKK!!!, and I thought my home
town city council was the only entity guilty of this. When it comes to
getting it crammed up my you know what, I wish these idiots would "pull out"
once in a while.

Sadly, yes. You get it. The real core and meaning of the topic is very simple, once one strips away the rhetoric and bullshit.

And to make it even better:


I hope those in support of "free" (no cost) speech for huge corporations like Google will sleep easier knowing that so many creative people, including musicians, can do without heat, food, or medical insurance this Winter.

This time of year is interesting. Almost every artist and band for decades has made sure to put out a Christmas album, or at least a song or two. The reason for this is not religious, but for the airplay royalties they would receive over the years.

No, Virginia, there is no Santa Claus.

best,
Bobby

Funny or not?

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our church played this during the service a couple of weeks ago.? hilarious!





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On 11/22/2010 9:44 AM, Dave Woods wrote:

Why do a soft shoe while we "pussy" foot through the
dog pound. PASS the God damned thing. Change has to come first before
lines can begin being drawn. Right now we can argue about
what?.....nothing. Draw a line about what?.......nothing.

For starters, draw the line about what the bill is all about. John Hall,
pussy that he is, knows all too well that this is NOT about protecting
musicians. It's about Federal Copyright Law infringement, pure and
simple. To even express a need for a new legislation is ludicrous, and
shows just how incompetent and dishonest our legislators and judicial
system are - a way to pass it on 'til the next politician comes along.

Bobby,

Clear me up on this. Is Federal Copyright Law all inclusive? Meaning it
protects a copyright for a better mouse trap plan, as well as intellectual
property? Am I confusing patent law with copyright?

Ohhhh, I think I get it. the protection is already in place, and they're
just ignoring it's enforcement. The "new" legislation is just another way
for them to justify their jobs. FUUUUUCCCCKKK!!!, and I thought my home
town city council was the only entity guilty of this. When it comes to
getting it crammed up my you know what, I wish these idiots would "pull out"
once in a while.

Dave Woods

... he's mimicking his father who is a jazz fan, Joe Pass in
particular ... a kid following after his own man is a great
testament to Pop and music's continuing legacy ....

Hi,
Yes, John, starting with Mozart !
AR

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Never heard that one but it is possible. But his dad ran a restaurant in Philly. Pass also spent a lot of time practicing when he was in prison I believe.

Pass himself used to say in clinics, there is a video on that, that when he was a kid his dad would let him spend time practicing as long as he could entertain the customers at their family's Italian restaurant. Pass said that his technique of doing all those intricate fills, leaving little space, was his dad saying that he had better keep playing and you better not leave any silent parts. Like fill it up,keep going, don't stop, customers don't want to sit there listening to nothing, keep playing, just make stuff up if you have to.

Well I wish my dad had beat me like that. Wonder what Pat Martino's dad, also an Italian from Philly did to him?


j

At 12:25 AM 11/23/2010, you wrote:

I'll bet ya his old man doesn't have a memory like that.

I just hope he isn't beaten if he doesn't practice enough ... I read somewhere years ago that Pass's dad did that, terrified his son would end up in his line of work. mining, wasn't it?

Not sure how true any of that is though.

Chris

I'll bet ya his old man doesn't have a memory like that.
Will be interesting to see if he can play with other musicians as a unique improviser, that's a different talent. My bet is he will.

... he's mimicking his father who is a jazz fan, Joe Pass in particular ... a
kid following after his own man is a great testament to Pop and music's
continuing legacy ....


John Amato
Isaiah 55:11








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From: john <deanwork2003@...>
To: jazz_guitar@...
Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 11:17:59 PM
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: 9 year old is into Joe Pass


That sounds like a total transcription. How did he do that? He was good at 7 too
playing that solo to Santana.

His poor little arms wore out at the very end of Pasta Blues, but his mind
didn't. He could have started over from the beginning and done it all over if
his body could hold out.


I would try to copy him but my memory wouldn't last past 20 seconds of that.

j

He really plays well, but I wonder what else is going on there... That
guitar is ridiculous!

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

There be wisdom in them words, reminds me of what the king says in the movie, "Amadeus"... Sometimes wisdom indeed comes from the mouth of babes, although Albert King truly knew.

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega

That sounds like a total transcription. How did he do that? He was good at 7 too playing that solo to Santana.

His poor little arms wore out at the very end of Pasta Blues, but his mind didn't. He could have started over from the beginning and done it all over if his body could hold out.

I would try to copy him but my memory wouldn't last past 20 seconds of that.

j

On 11/22/2010 9:44 AM, Dave Woods wrote:

Why do a soft shoe while we "pussy" foot through the
dog pound. PASS the God damned thing. Change has to come first before
lines can begin being drawn. Right now we can argue about
what?.....nothing. Draw a line about what?.......nothing.

For starters, draw the line about what the bill is all about. John Hall, pussy that he is, knows all too well that this is NOT about protecting musicians. It's about Federal Copyright Law infringement, pure and simple. To even express a need for a new legislation is ludicrous, and shows just how incompetent and dishonest our legislators and judicial system are - a way to pass it on 'til the next politician comes along.

While all the arguments about the "big-bad" record companies deserving to be out of business, and musicians not getting exposure without the Internet , and "free speech", &c. &c keep going 'round & 'round like a circle in a wheel, the plain fact of Copyright Law Violations remain ignored simply because the thievery is done through new technology (or so say the liars who say that).

Has it ever occurred to anybody that most of the "artists" who do not get exposure through conventional means fail to do so because they're just not good enough? That for some or other reason they fail to attract fans - either because their music is weak, or their image is weak, or their attitude is bad, or even in many cases they don't even bathe? I can't sell that; can you?

Lots of artists over the decades have made very good livings - a fact which the circular argument seems to ignore. The overwhelming majority of artists who have failed, regardless of their talent, have done so because they blatantly refuse to learn the business end of their craft. - we call these people jerks, and so do the lawyers they try to take on without any foreknowledge or homework (hint: the record companies' lawyers are paid to represent the record companies, the musicians have to hire their own).

If I find a new way to rob a bank of even a small fraction of what the Internet geeks have stolen from all copyright owners, musicians included, does that make it legal until new laws are passed to take the new technology into account. If someone posts everybody's bank account information on the internet for all to see, is that legal?

Rather, methinks, those opposed to Federal Copyright Law enforcement are so because they want in on all the free stuff, and that they don't care a rat's ass who loses out. Let's be honest, folks, and "call a spade a spade" for a change.

Bobby

On 11/22/2010 3:16 PM, Ron Becker wrote:

You forget, my friend, that I gave up on tv in 1983.

No, my child, you are wrong. You didn't give up on TV; it gave up on you. The reason you think you don't have a TV set is that you have been consumed by it, and since 1983, you have been inside of the set, looking out at the rest of the world. We have been watching you on the Comedy channel all these years.

You have become the goldfish, thinking that it is the people outside who are looking out of the glass...

B

On 11/22/2010 9:44 AM, Dave Woods wrote:

Let em' come after me and sensor my foul mouthed Emails..........I don't
give a F#%K!!

Well, Dave,
Thank you for that. Fuckin'-A, that was good. Of course, they can censor the ever-lovin' piss out of our fucking selves, while still letting the fucking thieves steal away in the name of "free" fucking speech.

Maybe we'll get fucking lucky and the CEO of Google will yell "Fire!" in a crowded fucking theater.

I hope I didn't say something fucking wrong,
Bobby

I meant the one and only Albert King. NOBODY bent the sh*t out of a string like him. Played a Gibson V, which became something of a trademark of his.


As a young player I was lucky enough to see him several times when he came through NYC, and finally got up the nerve to talk to him and get some advice about playing "real" blues.
It was: "Son, you be playin too many notes."