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Rickie Lee Jones is another one of those pop stars that fools with jazz styled standards that I like. Because of her unusual sounding voice her recordings are sort of non-traditional but her sincerity shows through everything she does.

If you haven't heard it yet Steven Tyler from Aerosmith singing "Smile" in front of the Boston Symphony Orchestra is to die for. It's part of an all-star production fronted by Chris Botti. I saw it while getting my computer fixed in Best Buy and I was so impressed I bought the DVD right then and there.






Brian



From: Mark Cassidy
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:12 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: Eric Clapton plays Autumn Leaves



--- In jazz_guitar@..., Craig Hagerman <craighagerman@...> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Mark Cassidy <cassidymark@...> wrote:

Any opinions on Rickie Lee Jone's version of Autumn Leaves? Like
everyone else I love the Cannonball version on Somethin' Else, but
Rickie's has always been another favorite. I know she is one of those
people you either love or loathe (and most people I know seem to be in
the latter category). It is on "Naked Songs" - just her and Rob
Wasserman playing very nice walking bass.

Not heard that one. Will have to check it out.

Mark Cassidy

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I liked the EC take on Autumn Leaves. There's no reason not to from what I heard. Whether it's up there with Tony Bennett or Johnny Mathis doesn't matter to me. It's nice as it is. For the most part I am not inclined to like most of these pop star versions of standards. However with that said I absolutely love Boz Scaggs doing jazz styled version of standards. His takes are as good as it gets. Boz has real musical talent and vision and it shows through everything he does. Unlike Ronstadt who is singing in front of Nelson Riddle Band and Orchestra with a monstrous recording budget and everything optimized just to showcase her singing Boz is singing in front of a piano trio.

Incredibly years ago Cher did one of these standards albums. Some of it was pretty bad and/or very predictable. Unlike Ronstadt it didn't sound like they worked very on it very hard or spent a lot of money but a few cuts were exceptional. I only heard it once years ago but I think the cuts I liked were The Man I Love and My Funny Valentine.








Brian Kelly



From: Bob Hansmann
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 7:03 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: Eric Clapton plays Autumn Leaves


lightjazzand

....I admire and respect Eric Clapton very much. I use to feel put out
that pop singers would tread on my turf. I remember being somewhat
embare-assed for Linda Ronstadt when she did her Standards records.
....[snip]....I don't forget and i am gonna give him some space to grow.

I feel very much the same way. I guess in my post, I just took that for
a given, but it is kind of what I was trying to say.

best wishes to you,
Bobby

Hi Jim,

....I admire and respect Eric Clapton very much. I use to feel put out that pop singers would tread on my turf. I remember being somewhat embare-assed for Linda Ronstadt when she did her Standards records. ....[snip]....I don't forget and i am gonna give him some space to grow.

I feel very much the same way. I guess in my post, I just took that for a given, but it is kind of what I was trying to say.

best wishes to you,
Bobby

--- In jazz_guitar@..., Craig Hagerman <craighagerman@...> wrote:

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Mark Cassidy <cassidymark@...> wrote:

Any opinions on Rickie Lee Jone's version of Autumn Leaves? Like
everyone else I love the Cannonball version on Somethin' Else, but
Rickie's has always been another favorite. I know she is one of those
people you either love or loathe (and most people I know seem to be in
the latter category). It is on "Naked Songs" - just her and Rob
Wasserman playing very nice walking bass.

Not heard that one. Will have to check it out.
?
Mark Cassidy

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Mark Cassidy <cassidymark@...> wrote:

Hi there,

Can I comment on this? I agree, I think. EC gave us?'that' version of
Crossroads, as well as some absolute gems off D & the Ds etc so if he wants to
noodle about with a few old standards why not? I also don't mind, in fact quite
like, some of Rod's attempts at standards.

I agree completely. I like a lot of Rod S's tunes on the American
Songbook set. And Eric proved himself a long time ago, so he can do
what he likes now. For my money my favorite is "E.C. was Here" which I
think was just after coming out of a long heroin addiction.

Any opinions on Rickie Lee Jone's version of Autumn Leaves? Like
everyone else I love the Cannonball version on Somethin' Else, but
Rickie's has always been another favorite. I know she is one of those
people you either love or loathe (and most people I know seem to be in
the latter category). It is on "Naked Songs" - just her and Rob
Wasserman playing very nice walking bass.

Cool!
?
Mark Cassidy

Hi there,

Can I comment on this? I agree, I think. EC gave us?'that' version of
Crossroads, as well as some absolute gems off D & the Ds etc so if he wants to
noodle about with a few old standards why not? I also don't mind, in fact quite
like, some of Rod's attempts at standards. So?they're not NKC or whoever.?As you
say, let them try and give it a go. Also, the thing with the Stewarts and the
Bubles is, maybe someone will hear for instance I've Got the World On A String
and decide to go and give?Sinatra a listen. On the other hand, I do agree that
this latest?EC thing is a bit weak. I read somewhere that he turned to these
tunes after JJ Cale walked out on the sessions for a follow up to Road to
Escondido. Anyhoo, there you go. Time for breakfast!
?
Mark Cassidy

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This is a tune, Evening Prayer, that i wrote and recorded a long time ago...back when you had to enter everything by hand. But, before the song came back to me, I went back to youtube and checked out Eric Clapton again....Steve Gadd!!!!!!!!
Clapton seems such an innocent to me. Sometimes i feel like saying, "don't expose yourself so much, man. you're only gonna get hurt."
So I thought of this tune and remembered how it owes so much to Eric.
Thanks, Eric
Jim Mings

Nothing to do with jazz guitar except the effect on this guitar player:
These are pictures of Firemen at work next door. It is a winzip file. I took these pictures, stunned as I was. I went to the Fire Captain several times wanting to know if we should start getting stuff out of our house. I found out that there is a kind of fire triage. Let the part that's gone go... protect the rest. The Firemen on the roof in the midst of incredible heat and smoke are drilling holes to save this side of the house on fire and protect our house from similar incineration. To our everlasting good fortune, we are not crammed up house to house here in Columbia.
I thought playing the guitar for a living was a hard gig! Like the my man Howard, 81 years old, watching all the material possessions that he and his wife Evelyn had accumulated in the last 60 years go up in smoke said, "I was always worried about something like this, but I didn't think it would happen to me." Everybody, at one time or another, thinks that.
Howard also said, " I'm glad it was our house instead of any of our neighbors." He meant that perhaps he could endure it easier than some others. This man is the salt of the earth! He and Evelyn sat in our yard looking at the destruction long into the night. It started about 5 PM.
I thought playing the guitar for a living was a hard gig!
Jim

Not everyone is gonna like this. ;-) Schmaltz to some, i guess. It's real to me. My singing and piano playing and guitar are growing slowly but steadily...I like this Jazz master and micro pog toy and the sound it makes thru 2 boogie 22's. I placed a 57 equidistant between the amps. I began recording this 2 days ago and was in the middle of it when my next door neighbor's house burned down. That was a profound day! I leaned so much from their acceptance and humility and from the real courage and professionalism of fire fighters. i got some incredible pictures...I "finished" That's All yesterday in recognition that music making is a real privilege and pleasure. I hope some of you like it.
Jim

Hi Bobby,
In a lot of ways we are a tough crowd here. One thing i like about becoming an old man is that i don't have a lot of the prejudices or pretenses that i used to. One feels free to enjoy what is there rather than expecting something else. I admire and respect Eric Clapton very much. I use to feel put out that pop singers would tread on my turf. I remember being somewhat embare-assed for Linda Ronstadt when she did her Standards records. Now... I don't hear music the same old proud, stuffy way. Why in the world compare her to Sarah Vaughn? What you hear as lukewarm I hear as a really soulful cat stretching for something more. He may not be totally at home, but so what? He has given so much to the world of music. I don't forget and i am gonna give him some space to grow. I am also glad that others get a chance to hear one of the great songs.
It may not be in a class with Nat Cole or Cannonball, or whomever one might name as far as "real" jazz is concerned, but the jazz insiders, the club with the secret decoder rings, and the involved initiation rituals, leave me cold. All that said, i don't "like" everything... shit, i don't like everything I play. ;-) But, I want to remain available to be moved, touched, by the immediate experience of music; don't want to wall myself off. I really don't want you to think of me as some argumenative s.o.b. In my heart of hearts i am just another who adores the art and craft of music. In fact, i like the craft more than the art. Art seems to happen after one master's the craft. I have more i want to talk with you about. This is why i send out my music. I can speak clearer with notes than i can with words.
i hope this note finds you in good spirits, Bobby.
Jim

Hi Jim,

Man, this is a tough crowd!

Not really -it is pretty lukewarm, after all. I don't even see how someone found a comparison between that and anything by BB King, but even if they did - do what? Blues players, like all musicians, steal from eachother all the time.

I won't be buying it anytime soon, but I'm not disappointed either. It's pretty much in the vein of the "acoustic direction" in which he moves from time to time, and especially lately. Clapton fans will like it - after all, what one expect him to do with it? Anybody else will take-it-or-leave-it, me thinks. If it weren't Clapton, I don't think even Clapton fans would give it a second listen - there's nothing terribly wrong with it, but there's nothing special, either.

Perhaps if he had included Willie Nelson on the track....

best,
Bobby

Here's my version:


John Amato
Isaiah 55:11

Hi Alisdair,

Kiss bassist is bumped offline after comments endorsing aggressive stance against copyright infringement

Never one to bite his tongue (sorry), the public face of Kiss, its bassist Gene Simmons, has become the latest target of assiduous online attackers, Anonymous.

I never thought that much about him until recently, when his willingness to fight for musicians and their royalties is become more and more apparent. He's a shrewd businessman - maybe he'll show them that they've bitten off mo0re than they can chew.

My feeling is that if the courts get totally inundated with lawsuit after lawsuit, they will have no other choice but to take notice. This is what SHOULD have been happening all along, but the suits are too lazy (or, put another way, they won't litigate unless it is big enough to be worth it - to them).

best,
Bobby

Man, this is a tough crowd!
Jim

I figured if it was on tv they'd stick the strings in there. but they are more a part of the orchestration mix. But it's the phrasing.... wow.

Ron

Living and playing outside the box.

On Oct 16, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Rod Ellard wrote:

Unlistenable. The singing anyway. Didn't stick around to hear if he
plays
guitar.

I'm with you. I think it's wretched "FM Lite" elevator music.

Jeff

Chock full of pallid imitation bb king...

I loved that. It was beautiful. This is he kind of stuff Jim Mings sits around and does for his own personal enjoyment.






Brian



From: musicmaker1245
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 11:23 AM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: Eric Clapton plays Autumn Leaves



--- In jazz_guitar@..., Rod Ellard <e11rod@...> wrote:

Didn't stick around to hear if he plays
guitar.

You missed the best part. :-)

Mark

--- In jazz_guitar@..., Rod Ellard <e11rod@...> wrote:

Didn't stick around to hear if he plays
guitar.

You missed the best part. :-)

Mark