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Old Gibson designation for an early model alnico pickup that was waiting for a Patent to be processed.
The pickup had a nice sound and gained a reputation even before the Patent designation went through so the name at the time "Patent Applied For" stuck.
David

What does P.A.F means?

Check out Frank Mele's Errata.pdf in the File Archive:



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Alisdair MacRae Birch
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Tal Farlow is the best jazz guitarist

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His tone is the best

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On the Tal Farlow. You can see the flames even through the video
compression blurr! Some pocket problems in the second chorus, but
hey ... this is no tune to play first thing in the morning when out of
bed on a Saturday morning....:)

The Tal is a gorgeous guitar. I got mine in my favorite finish for
this model (Viceroy Sunburst). You can see it well on this vid.



Regards,

Dick

Dear YJGG friends, I am please to share with you the video blogg
in which it shows a new guitar
technique based on an ergonomic concept. best regards. Tony Pe?a

Legacy Recordings, a division of Sony Music have just released
"Progressions:100 Years of Jazz Guitar"

From the press release:

"Seventy-eight guitar classics are put together in 100 YEARS OF JAZZ
GUITAR, a remarkable 4-CD anthology that yields the absolutely
definitive jazz guitar collection ever assembled. The set spans the
years 1906 to 2001, from the ragtime banjo of Vess Ossman (originally
recorded on an Edison cylinder) to the diaphonous chords of Bill
Frisell. In between, virtually every major figure of the jazz guitar
weighs in, from Eddie Lang, Django Reinhardt, and Charlie Christian to
Les Paul, Tal Farlow, and Wes Montgomery, and right up to Jim Hall,
Grant Green, George Benson, Pat Martino, John McLaughlin, Pat Metheny,
and John Scofield as well as Jeff Beck, Carlos Santana, and the great
Jimi Hendrix.

In addition, the box also contains a book filled with photographs of
each of the principles heard herein, an overview essay by guitar
scholar Charles Alexander, old guitar ads, photos of classic guitar
models and amps, solo transcriptions and technical analysis,
testimonials from guitar legends, and precise discographical data."

They've just set up a website dedicated to the recording:


Also there's a Jazz Guitar One Hour Radio Special


"Jazz Guitar One Hour Radio Special Listen to the Progressions: 100
Years of Jazz Guitar radio special tracing the history of Jazz guitar
from 1906 through today. Hosted by the legendary Les Paul, you'll hear
music and commentary by John Scofield, George Benson, Jim Hall and
award-winning journalist Bill Milkowski. Classic, influential tracks
by Django Reinhart, Wes Montgomery, John McLaughlin and more!"

You can purchase it direct here:


Enjoy!

Alisdair MacRae Birch
Guitarist/Bassist/Educator/Arranger

Any good? I have a copy of C Parker edition without the accompanying
cd. Working my way through it using BIAB. Going to take ages! Any
ideas on this method? Seems well organised, but a slow method that
requires a lot of memorisation. Will this kind of method pay dividends
in years to come!

Just wondering ur opinion if u have it, cheers.

PS thanks Clif, for ur reply the other day about soloing. I printed it
off and kept it!

Lee

Yes they are great picks.
But a total rip off.
They look machined to me.

--- Robin <rbalean@...> wrote:

I think I'm pretty much on the other end of the spectrum from
gearheads, but I see this differently.

I agree that your touch is the most important thing. But, being a
great electric guitar player means that you're playing an instrument
which begins with body and ends with the dispersion of sound to your
audience. Every link in that chain is important. Sure, some may make
more difference than others, but they all count. Playing great is the
sum of a seemingly endless series of details. And, in the end, you'll
have to pay attention to every one.

The fact is that some setups sound better than others and getting
great sound is important. I wouldn't wait until some arbitrary time
in the future to think about it. The sound of the instrument will
change the way you play. It's a feedback loop, not a one way system.

Having said that, I think it's important to be focused in the effort
to improve your sound. I don't think it's enough to say, will a new
pickup sound better? I think it would be better to be able to
identify what characteristics you're looking for and then figure out
what you need to do to get them.

You'll hear all kinds of stories. Some guys (me included) have
changed pickups to advantage. Other guys talk about preamps making
all the difference. For others is pedals. For others it's
amplification. For others it's amp placement for proper dispersion.
And, in the cracks you'll find guys talking about pots, capacitors,
cables, tube types etc.

All of those things can change the sound -- and there are so many
you'd be hard pressed to try every combination. So, I like a problem
solving approach. What is it you want to sound like? What do you need
to do to get it?

Rick




--- In jazz_guitar@..., "hueyhoolihan"
<hueyhoolihan@y...> wrote:

different pickup manufacturing methods and designs sound different.
the same design and manufacturer's pickup will sound different on

the

same guitar too if mounted in a different orientation relative to

the

top, nut and bridge.

in general, i believe buying equipment to enhance ones sound is
counterproductive. it tends to lose the focus on ones personal
improvement that is so necessary to reaching goals. i liken it to
golfers who are members in good standing to the 'driver of the

month'

club, who will insist that the lastest $500 toy is finally the

answer

to their problem. yes, it may help for a while, but it is only for a
while, because the real problem lies elsewhere. eventually they

manage

to groove their poor swing skills on the new club, and are back

where

they started.

i think your instincts are correct regarding "the sound is in your
fingers, and nothing else matters" statement, but it is perhaps a
little too extreme to agree with completely.

regards,
huey

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "bebmen" <bebmen@y...> wrote:

Does a good pickup really change the sound? I mean, I have

always

thought that the sound is in your fingers, and nothing else

matters.

Last year I bought chinesse Epi Dot with serial Epiphone pups,

and to

my vast surprise they sound good. Will any Gibson 57 or Seymour

make

me sound better?

It sure does. My Ibanezes sounded nice with super 58's because they're nice instruments but after the duncan switchout, I get really delicious sound with all things being equal. I feel better about my playing, I'm excited to play, I play more, I listen more and I become a better player. A good pickup is an inspiration to me. I do however have to say a hefty .012 string and wood bridge and tailpiece has a profound effect on the sound and the way I relate to the instrument too. While it's true that the sound comes out of the hand, removing the rough obstacles in the instrument and amp does allow you to get the most out of what your hands can do.
David

Hi YJJG,

I agree with JV on this...pickups are important to electric guitar.
I have a epi dot deluxe, the pickups weren't bad, however, when I
compared the epi's stock pickup to the Gibson 490R in my les paul,
there was a big difference, not only in output, but a more balanced
and "tighter" tone, also more dynamic, and not as "transparent" the
epi stock pickup. I just purchased a Epi SG custom with the 3
humbucker pickups, I probably will leave them , unless they are
really flat in repsonse; however, I don't know if I will spend the
money on gibson pickups, they get kinda of pricey; but I do like
gibson's pickups currently, really nice ...the 490R is nice all
around pickup, and alot of folks really like the 57 classics, and
the 57 classic plus...

there's tons of pickups on the mkt. a good basic PAF copy is the
kent armstrong vintage C ...it's about 50 - 60 bucks a piece...ken
is making a good pickup for the money!

Donnie Loeffler



--- In jazz_guitar@..., "brianmayeux" <brianmayeux@y...>
wrote:

I would recommend replacing your humbucker with a TV Jones TV'Tron

www.tvjones.com

It makes a HUGE difference in sound (not playability).

-Brian

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "bebmen" <bebmen@y...> wrote:

Does a good pickup really change the sound? I mean, I have

always

thought that the sound is in your fingers, and nothing else

matters.

Last year I bought chinesse Epi Dot with serial Epiphone pups,

and

to

my vast surprise they sound good. Will any Gibson 57 or Seymour

make

me sound better?

Yo Juan,

back in '69 there was not a plethora of jazz guitar
intruction books as there is today -- the Mickey Baker
book got us out of the first position "Simon &
Garfunfel/Proud mary/Hey Jude/LouieLouie" bar chord
regimes ....

...then the orange Joe Pass book came out in the 70s
and we were went deep underground with passion for
chord melody, swing, jazz/blues and heavy duty bop
lines ...

...in those days, like I said before, for lack of
instructional material, we spent a lot of time
transcribing our favorite jazz recordings ... I
remember spendng days and days transcribing Benson's
cover of James Moody's "Moody's Modd For Love" (based
on Moody's solo to "I'm in the Mood for Love")



--- JVegaTrio@... wrote:

Hey John,

I won't take the credit, although I believe I
might've been one of the
people on this forum who recommended the Baker
books... Some of the voicings are
a bit dated, but Vol. I especially is a terrific
book. Way back in the
Pleistocene period, it really helped me get started
on the road to playing jazz.

Cheers,
JV

Juan Vega



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John Amato
Music blows the dust off your soul...
Isa.55:11



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Alan,

In what file is it? ... I have an arrangement from a
freind of Johnny Smith's, Rob Yelin, his chord melody
is fashioned after Smith's


--- Alan Levin <alevin@...> wrote:

I just uploaded (or maybe tried to upload) Johnny
Smith's arrangement of this piece. It is a scan of
a transcription in one of the guitar mags.
Unfortunately, the orginal is printed on newsprint
and the scans are very 'dirty' and grey. I had to
leave them very large to keep the information from
being obscured.

I hope these are helpful and watch those 5 or 6 fret
stretches.

Thanks

Al

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different pickup manufacturing methods and designs sound different.
the same design and manufacturer's pickup will sound different on the
same guitar too if mounted in a different orientation relative to the
top, nut and bridge.

in general, i believe buying equipment to enhance ones sound is
counterproductive. it tends to lose the focus on ones personal
improvement that is so necessary to reaching goals. i liken it to
golfers who are members in good standing to the 'driver of the month'
club, who will insist that the lastest $500 toy is finally the answer
to their problem. yes, it may help for a while, but it is only for a
while, because the real problem lies elsewhere. eventually they manage
to groove their poor swing skills on the new club, and are back where
they started.

i think your instincts are correct regarding "the sound is in your
fingers, and nothing else matters" statement, but it is perhaps a
little too extreme to agree with completely.

regards,
huey

I took the stock superhumbucker out of my L5S because it sounded
harsh.

I put in a PAF reissue that had a sweeter sound. Now I'm satisfied.

I wouldn't necessarily assume that because it's an Epi pickup that
some more expensive pickup will be more to your liking. But, it is
true, IMO, that different pickups do not sound the same.

Rick

I just uploaded (or maybe tried to upload) Johnny Smith's arrangement of this piece. It is a scan of a transcription in one of the guitar mags. Unfortunately, the orginal is printed on newsprint and the scans are very 'dirty' and grey. I had to leave them very large to keep the information from being obscured.

I hope these are helpful and watch those 5 or 6 fret stretches.

Thanks

Al

I would recommend replacing your humbucker with a TV Jones TV'Tron

www.tvjones.com

It makes a HUGE difference in sound (not playability).

-Brian

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "bebmen" <bebmen@y...> wrote:

Does a good pickup really change the sound? I mean, I have always
thought that the sound is in your fingers, and nothing else matters.
Last year I bought chinesse Epi Dot with serial Epiphone pups, and

to

my vast surprise they sound good. Will any Gibson 57 or Seymour make
me sound better?