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Double diminished
I posted this question to the "justjazz.com" discussion group & got
no response, so I hope my luck is better here. My question is: what does it mean to play a "double diminished" riff/run? A pro friend (Kenny Rankin's bass player of many years ago) mentioned that I should know this concept, but he couldn't explain it well. My guess is that it may have something to do with playing a riff based on diminished chord tones, then repeating the riff down 1/2 step (which still leaves you within the dinished scale of the original chord/arpeggio). But, then, it may be something altogether different, so I am posing the question to the group. Any references/resources on this topic would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nick |
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Mark Stanley
I agree with both of you.
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It's hard to talk about something like technique while listening to great musicians that transcend the instrument like, for me, Metheny, Coltrane, Wayne Shorter, Hubbard, Tyner, lots more. But, I am in practice-mode so much lately that I appreciate anything that helps me play better. -Mark --- Paul Erlich <paul@...> wrote: --- In jazz_guitar@y..., Eric Brazier |
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Re: Metheny's sound
Mark Stanley
What about we're all "the man"?
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-Mark --- Andy <Awseyler@...> wrote: In a message dated 8/22/01 1:58:54 PM Eastern |
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Mark Stanley
Ya know, I think it's true that you
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cant please everyone. I get a lot from listening to Jimmy and his video has given me new ideas for right hand utilization of ideas. That being said , I think a great player is a great player. I dont like to break it down to technique, "chops" or anything. If you can play, you can play. If there is something you cant play that you want to play, you have to work at it. People's opinions are just that and you cant change them. The best way to learn, I think, is to listen. -Mark --- Jimmy Bruno <jbguit@...> wrote: --- sorry if my life does not revolve around the |
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Re: Anybody use an amp modeler for recording jazz?
Mark Stanley
Guitar processor's and jazz: Dont Do It!
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Just my opinion. -Mark --- Sam <thamiam@...> wrote: I was looking into buying an amp modeler for |
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Re: Hybrid 2 String Bass 6 String Guitar
Hackett, Jeff
I believe Cort make a Joe Beck "Alto Guitar" which could
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be what you're after. -----Original Message-----
From: kevinj@... [mailto:kevinj@...] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 9:58 AM To: jazz_guitar@... Subject: [jazz_guitar] Hybrid 2 String Bass 6 String Guitar Hi, I'm looking for a six-string guitar with the fifth and sixth strings in the bass-guitar range and the first four string in regular guitar range. Anyone know of such an animal? Acoustic or electric okay, but I'm a player, not a collector so I'm not interested in spending a zillion bucks. Thanks! Cheers, Kevin |
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Hybrid 2 String Bass 6 String Guitar
Hi,
I'm looking for a six-string guitar with the fifth and sixth strings in the bass-guitar range and the first four string in regular guitar range. Anyone know of such an animal? Acoustic or electric okay, but I'm a player, not a collector so I'm not interested in spending a zillion bucks. Thanks! Cheers, Kevin |
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Jimmy Bruno
--- sorry if my life does not revolve around the guitar. I have a
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family and other interests. Doesn't matter what I say you will find insult so I will no longer waste my time with this. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about music, players etc.... sorry if mine do not meet with your approval. It would be a boring place if everyone liked the same things. Some of my favorite and most innovative music has come form Stravinsky, Ravel, and Debussy. I also think George van eps is still the most innovative guitarist but one has to listen closely to his weaving of harmonies... to me that is innovation and not change for the sake of change. Well, I enjoyed this brief exchange of ideas. Bye for now In jazz_guitar@y..., ardishall@e... wrote: Hi Jimmy -- thanks for all your wonderful remarks. |
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Re: Metheny's sound
Patricio Murphy
Can ANYBODY receive THAT label?Thanks for the tip about the Metheny site - lots to readI can doubt it. I think he is great, but I wouldn't give him Patricio |
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Jimmy Bruno
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I can try to answer your question. The technique part has to be like on auto pilot. so that you're not thinking about the execution of the line. Once that happens you can listen to the music and play what you feel. That's the only thing it's about. Hope it helps although I am not sure who I am answering -- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Paul Erlich" <paul@s...> wrote:
--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Eric Brazier <ericbrazier@y...> wrote:It's called feeling and soul, all the technique,theory,Was that intended as an answer to me? If so, I am insulted. I put |
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Anybody use an amp modeler for recording jazz?
I was looking into buying an amp modeler for recording. The majority
of music I will be doing is straight ahead jazz, and I prefer a very very clean tone. I was recommended the Johnson J Station because it had better clean tone than the POD or any others. Does anybody here have any experience with using these in a studio/home/live situation? Thanks for the input. |
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Re: Guitar intros
Farnum, Nicholas
"Melody Chord Phrases" (orig copyright 1983, new copyright 2000)
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can be obtained from Elderly Instruments at I purchased a copy from them a couple weeks ago. --- In jazz_guitar@y..., "Alisdair MacRae Birch" <akmbirch@y...> wrote:
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Paul Erlich
I found the vast majority of Jimmy Bruno's remarks to be very good-
natured, wise, and to the point. Play music because music is _fun_, and warms the spirit. If it turns into a competitive game of one-up- manship, you've lost the whole reason it exists in the first place. |
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Paul Erlich
--- In jazz_guitar@y..., Eric Brazier <ericbrazier@y...> wrote:
It's called feeling and soul, all the technique,theory,Was that intended as an answer to me? If so, I am insulted. I put prime importance on feeling and soul, and I expect Jimmy Bruno does to. I was asking him a specific technique question, because sometimes my "soul" has this "feeling" that it wants to play a fast line in swung eighths. Do you have a problem with that? |
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Re: Guitar intros
Jim
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I have not seen this exact book, it's got a new "shiny cover", but I assume that it is probably the same book that I have from 1983. If I see it, when I'm next in a music store I'll check it out. Ron Eschete is great Chord Melody player so I'm sure it's excellent. Alisdair MacRae Birch Jazz Guitarist --- In jazz_guitar@y..., kangas@t... wrote:
It looks like this is the book of which you're speaking? |
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Re: Metheny's sound
Thanks for the tip about the Metheny site - lots to read
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there. How can anyone doubt he is the 'Main Man' of jazz guitar in the last 20 years ? I recently got an old secondhand SPX90 to play with, and the use of delays and pitch shifting does generate a different type of chorus to that on, say, a Boss pedal. Here a modulated pitch variation on one channel is mixed with the dry signal. The two pitches being mixed 'beat' to produce the chorus, but the beat frequency is varying continuously. Sounds awful in mono, OK in stereo. With a digital delay/pitch shifter, L has some delay and fixed pitch shift. R has some delay, and a different pitch shift. Together with the dry, you then have 3 pitches beating with each other, so it sounds thicker, but only works in stereo. John --- In jazz_guitar@y..., Mark Stanley <bucketfullopuke@y...> wrote:
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Re: Technique question for Jimmy Bruno
Hi Jimmy -- thanks for all your wonderful remarks. Oh please! What wonderful remarks? Bruno's comments have been no more than knee-jerk, childish personal jabs and a declaration that he doesn't listen much to other guitarists and that he doesn't give a damn who's the best guitarist, which is certainly a noble stance but hardly reflected in his impulse to insult where he can. Sorry, Alisdair, to harp on this. I promise you this is the last time. I just found Bruno's responses to be appalling, especially for one who, as a guitarist, has the respect of so many. |
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Re: Jazz guitar sound
Eric Brazier
WOW!that was a mouthfull,here's my take on tone.When
playing the guitar of choice,if you find yourself playing harder,picking and missing notes you know you normally hit and the and the music seems forced,then your tone is wrong.The guitar should seem to almost play itself and the notes should ring true and clear.Eric |
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Re: alternate-consecutive picking
Jay
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In my experience, picking and how one chooses to pick is a very individual experience. So I can only speak from my experience. Coming originally from the UK, I was heavily influenced by the older generation of Guitar Players in the UK and their attention to picking. Ivor Mairants who was one of the "grandfathers" of "electric guitar" in the UK, wrote a number of books including a book entitled "Perfect Pick technique for Guitar". At one point in my learning I was literally forced by a teacher to work my way through picking exercises. Man it nearly killed me and any guitar playing! But it did improve my picking! Anyway, I number of things I've found for me in picking: 1. The enemy is tension in any part of your hand/wrist/arm. A teacher of mine once described having a picture in your mind of a country guitar player in the hot mid-day sun strumming on a guitar as the ease with which it should be executed! 2. For single line and 2/3 Chord use motion comes from the wrist in general. 3. For larger chord use it comes from the wrist and elbow. 4. I do not use motion from fingers joints, although I have seen many "funk players" who use this technique. 5. I try to ensure my picking goes diagonally across the strings so that the pick hits each string at the same angle, following the line of the pickup. 6. Most of my picking is alternate down up picking, but I do use all down and all up strokes depending on: 6.a. Placement of notes on strings 6.b. Rhythmic placement of notes. In a posting way back Dan Adler pointed out Tuck Andress's site for an overview of picking: Best Wishes Alisdair MacRae Birch Jazz Guitarist --- In jazz_guitar@y..., Jay Jessup <JJESSUP@P...> wrote:
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