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On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:29 AM, akmbirch <akmbirch@...> wrote:

Former music industry boss argues case for �1 albums

Record companies would never do that. They're too greedy... They'd rather
charge their ridiculous prices and spend the money on lawyers suing 12 yr
olds...

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Thanks you, Mr. Matthew, for the 3 torrent links... Did he just break the
law? lol




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Well, it certainly was "full of sound and fury"....

Danny Kalb's guitar solos (more than one place on the cut) on the Blues Project's Two Trains Running were amazing. I'd still rate Amos Garrett's a little higher, but this is splitting hairs.

Alas, the table doesn't go back far enough... :-)

Jazz Survival 101

Eugene Marlow, a regular contributor to these virtual pages, looks at how the current economic climate is impacting jazz musicians, and offers some thoughts on how they can adapt and survive. T.G.



Ugly News on the Jazz Audience

A few days ago, the National Endowment for the Arts published the summary findings of its study on arts participation in the United States. The media has not given much publicity to this report, but for anyone concerned about the state of the arts in America, the results are a warning sign.

And the findings about the jazz audience in the United States are especially troubling.

Is Google Too Large To Be Convicted Of Profiting From Copyright Infringement?
By Jakomi Mathews on Aug 30, 2010

First, Google won the lawsuit launched by Viacom against the Google-owned company YouTube, in relation to copyright infringement of its content. And then just last week YouTube won a temporary victory in the case brought by the German Performing Rights Association GEMA against YouTube for its refusal to take down 75 compositions. Clearly, there are significant issues at stake for content owners.

Albeit, according to Billboard (), the judge in the GEMA case did "..indicate that there were good arguments in favour of the assumption that the applicants were entitled to seek a final injunction against the respondent under the provisions of copyright law, adding that it was reasonable to assume that the respondent had failed to perform reasonable checks or to take reasonable measures to avoid the copyright breach."

What happens when a company is knowingly profiting from serving up links and paid advertisements via its Google adwords service to illegal file sharing sites?

Attempts to absolve Google using the data privacy argument are quite simply a subterfuge. Whether it be ISPs or search engines, both have the technology to monitor and track illegal activity. They already do so in relation to child porn. So why not other forms of content? The answer is simple! Search engines make sizeable amounts of money from driving users to torrent sites and ISPs make their money from increased bandwidth subscriptions. So, all in all, they are just feathering their respective nests.

For those of you who cry out, "But how can we compare illegal consumption of music or film content with that of child porn?" Well, in terms of sadistic cruelty, we can't. However, what it does prove, is that both ISPs and search engines DO indeed have the technology to monitor and report offenders using their networks for illegal activity. This is despite ISPs' continued arguments that they cannot actually undertake such monitoring. Some state costs, which in reality are not as high as they would have us all believe.

Furthermore, such costs should be borne by ISPs and/or search engines themselves and not lumped onto the content owning industries. As an ISP you have a moral duty to society to prevent illegal consumption of content over your networks, as infringing copyright IS a crime! Going further, the fact ISPs rely on subscribers,some of which use their networks for illegal activity, monitoring illegal activity becomes a legitimate business cost.

Turning a blind eye and citing that they cannot, or will not, police users of our private network is no longer a sustainable argument.

For argument's sake (pun intended), using current ISP and Google logic (pun intended), if I were to walk into a convenience store and steal a top-up card for my mobile broadband, or even for $100 worth of Google adwords, and the store attendant witnesses me taking the item, yet decides to turn a blind eye (or perhaps even suggested I take it for free), how would the ISP or Google react? I guarantee you they would expect to use the full force of the law at their disposal鈥�probably launching lawsuits against the chain of convenience stores. Going further, what if I as an individual decided to sell-on both the ISP top-up and the Google adwords credit for a profit?

The key issue here is that both search engines like Google and ISPs actually DO profit from allowing the illegal consumption of content. Search engines are even more insidious as they profit from adwords, link indexing and display ads with their platforms actively promoting sites that enable file sharing. Perhaps the content industries should consider the plan of attack used successfully by the US government in the 1940s against Al Capone. Yes, he was done for tax evasion.

TMV believes it would be a lot easier to prove that Google not only indexes sites and serves up free links to consumers promoting sites enabling illegal consumption of content, but that Google actually profits from its business activity and is intimately connected to serving up links to sites, promoting illegal sharing of content, namely from its adwords and display advertising products.

The fact Google profits from enabling (some could even say encouraging) illegal consumption of content would surely be easier to prove in a court of law than indicting individual file sharers? As previously stated by TMV in numerous previous posts, ignorance is not a defence in any Western democracy that we are aware of. So, profiting from enabling criminal activity (driving traffic to infringing sites) is surely a crime Google could easily be convicted for?

How can Google get away with profiting from promoting the illegal consumption of music? Quite simply, it is a company with one of the largest market caps in the world. Even if the whole content industries, games, film, music and newspapers were to take on Google, it could draw out the process till all said companies were bankrupted, due to legal costs.

TMV do believe the content industries would actually have a better chance of winning against Google and other search engines if they work on proving that Google profits from sites enabling copyright infringement.

Surely it cannot be that hard鈥� just type in "torrent sites" into Google and it comes up with over 45 million link references, the first two being "torrentresource.com" and "torrentz.com", with "thepiratebay.org" being number six in the rankings of the first page of the aforementioned Google search. If that is not knowingly encouraging consumers to illegally consume music, TMV do not know what is. As a start, Google could quite easily stop indexing and serving up searches which provide links to sites enabling copyright infringement.

Former music industry boss argues case for 拢1 albums
Dan Martin
guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 October 2010 10.53 BST

A former major-label boss has called for a radical drop in the price of albums.

Rob Dickins, who ran the UK division of Warner Music for 15 years, made the suggestion at Manchester's In the City music industry conference last week, claiming the move would combat piracy and give sales a massive boost.

Dickins achieved success with acts such as REM and Madonna between 1983 and 1998. Since then, album sales have gone into freefall, and he claimed the only way back is a "revolutionary" reduction in price, according to the BBC.

"What we need is a revolution. What we've got is an erosion," Dickins said. "When I was running Warners, a chart CD could be 拢12.99. A chart CD can now be 拢6.99, maybe even 拢5.99."

Dickins predicted that such a drop would galvanise the market, leading consumers into impulse-buying, which would make up the shortfall. During the debate, which included REM's manager Bertis Downs, Dickins argued: "If you're a fan of REM and you've got 10 albums and there's a new album coming out, you've got to make that decision about whether you want it or not. If we lived in a micro-economy, that wouldn't be a decision. You'd just say, 'I like REM' and you'd buy it."

Under this new "micro-economy", Dickins predicted, a major album could easily sell 拢200m copies. However, his plan would depend on "360 deals" in which record companies take a significant cut from touring and merchandise 鈥� this is how labels would make "big-money".

Dickins continued: "To a degree it solves piracy because if it's such a small amount, people are more likely to pay it than (download for) free."

However his comments have attracted criticism. Paul Quirk, chairman of the Entertainment Retailers Association, responded: "Rob Dickins is part of the generation of executives who benefited from the age of 拢14 CDs and gave the music business a bad name. So it is ironic to hear him espouse the cause of the 拢1 album. Basic arithmetic indicates that this is a non-starter."

Alto saxophonist Marion Brown dies
Jazz avant gardist was also an educator
By CHRISTOPHER MORRIS

Alto saxophonist Marion Brown, a leading jazz avant gardist and music educator, died Oct. 18 in Hollywood, Fla. He was believed to be 79, though some sources list his age as 75.

Brown had been in ill health for many years after multiple surgeries and the partial amputation of a leg, and was in an assisted living facility at his death, according to the website of instrument maker Gibson.

Brown had considered a law career before he moved to New York in 1962 and began playing professionally. He was befriended by playwright and jazz observer LeRoi Jones (Amiri Baraka), who wrote about him favorably, and became a key player of the new jazz. In 1965, he made key appearances as a sideman on John Coltrane's "Ascension" and Archie Shepp's "Fire Music," both acknowledged free jazz landmarks.

Beginning with LPs for the experimental ESP-Jazz label in the late '60s, Brown worked as a leader through the early '90s. His best-known albums included "Afternoon of a Georgia Faun" (ECM, 1970) and "Geechee Recollections" (Impulse, 1973).

He taught at such universities as Brandeis and Amherst during the '70s, and earned a master's degree in ethnomusicology from Wesleyan. In later years, he developed a parallel career as a graphic artist.

18 October 2010 Last updated at 08:48 ET
Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason gives advice to new bands
By Ian Youngs Entertainment reporter, BBC News

After 40 years in one of the world's best-selling groups, Pink Floyd drummer Nick Mason is helping new artists avoid the music industry's pitfalls - but says things are tougher for bands today.

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"It's so much tougher now to even make a living, but to break through and become a world act is really difficult."

Mason is now co-chairman of the Featured Artists' Coalition, a group set up to educate new acts on how best to navigate the booby-trapped path through the music industry and to speak up for musicians' rights.

Asked whether he would like to be in the shoes of a new band in 2010, Mason replies with a horrified: "No!"

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The public's interest in music is now centred on X Factor, not artists writing their own material and emerging under their own steam, he notes ruefully.
Pink Floyd in 1967 Pink Floyd burst onto the music scene in 1967

"X Factor is big news - well 40 years ago The Beatles were big news."

And rather than being valued in its own right, music, he suggests, has "become the free toy in the cereal".

Almost anything by Hendrix or Santana
I vote for Voodoo child or Abraxas.
Certainly Mclaughlin's Birds of Fire come to mind
But that was what i listened to btwn 16-19

.. can I ask where this tread is going ... and why?
John Amato
Isaiah 55:11








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From: Brian Kelly <bkelly@...>
To: jazz_guitar@...
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 10:55:12 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] best rock gtr. solo of all time


John Cippolina was wonderful. Much to overlooked.

Brian

From: Jay Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:57 PM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] best rock gtr. solo of all time

Bob Hansmann wrote:

Luther Grosvenor (pseudonym "Ariel Bender") on guitar (1969):

I gotta disagree with this. I never did enjoy that kind of nervous, almost
frantic, vibrato. The phrasing sounds awkward to my ears as well. Tonewise,
I hear hints of Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) and John Cippolina (Quicksilver
Messenger Service), but I prefer both of those players' phrasing, sound, and
technique to what I hear in this solo.

FWIW, I think it's an exercise in futility to argue about the "best" of
anything musical, and I could never narrow down my favorites far enough to
argue in favor of a single "best." My favorite rock guitar solos include
Jimi's in the title cut on "Axis Bold as Love," Jim McCarty's in "Parchman
Farm" on the first Cactus album, Todd Rundgren's in "Hang On Paul" on the
"Nazz Nazz" album, Larry Carlton's in "Third World Man" on Steely Dan's
"Gaucho" album, and lots of others that don't immediately come to mind.

Jay

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John Cippolina was wonderful. Much to overlooked.



Brian




From: Jay Mitchell
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:57 PM
To: jazz_guitar@...
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] best rock gtr. solo of all time



Bob Hansmann wrote:

Luther Grosvenor (pseudonym "Ariel Bender") on guitar (1969):

I gotta disagree with this. I never did enjoy that kind of nervous, almost
frantic, vibrato. The phrasing sounds awkward to my ears as well. Tonewise,
I hear hints of Martin Barre (Jethro Tull) and John Cippolina (Quicksilver
Messenger Service), but I prefer both of those players' phrasing, sound, and
technique to what I hear in this solo.

FWIW, I think it's an exercise in futility to argue about the "best" of
anything musical, and I could never narrow down my favorites far enough to
argue in favor of a single "best." My favorite rock guitar solos include
Jimi's in the title cut on "Axis Bold as Love," Jim McCarty's in "Parchman
Farm" on the first Cactus album, Todd Rundgren's in "Hang On Paul" on the
"Nazz Nazz" album, Larry Carlton's in "Third World Man" on Steely Dan's
"Gaucho" album, and lots of others that don't immediately come to mind.

Jay

Uh, am I late to the party...with this Bobby Mind Changer?



Of course we got two guys, Steve Hunter and Dick Wagner.

Hey Mark is that stuff below your message and signature hip hop hand

signals" I think that last one is a bad word. This is a broken
fambily group.<<

Nah, Ron. It's just scrambled from google to yahoo and back again - I think
it's fixed now. ;-)


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I'll go for 'Blue Suede Shoes' - Elvis (SUN SESSIONS) Scotty Moore ....'any
Scotty really'



At least that was 'ROCK'



And - how can someone on here say 'David Gilmour' - is it not a great
improviser ???

What ? - because - he's not soloing over 'Stella' ..'sheesh' - some of you
guys are right up your own backsides !









JUAN



I'm with you - 'All right Now'



Was a great solo !

Whether it could be deemed the greatest I dunno



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How anyone can include - Steely Dan - that's not 'ROCK' -

Or - Joe Grayden 'Twilight Zone' etc - none of that was 'rock'













"and, but for the sky, there are no fences facing"

www.aaronwoolley.com

I, at least, picked a great band that nobody second- guessed.

Bobby

I could have done that too if I could remembered the name of the Phillipino Hendrix knock off band from Saigon.

And you are partially right the Heaters sucked but we didn't back them we opened for them usually to crowds of 15 year olds stoned on ludes yelling BOOGIE while we played our very wrong for that crowd original stuff. But boy they had great dope. Probably why they sucked. Fito had the worst time in history. Hope he got over that and is playing with somebody cool.

Ron

Yep I was just starting to get an ear for jazz and that solo knocked
me out. I that descending lick that caught my ear and got me to
listen more. Chase the Clouds Away was also very nice from that
period. Did a version of that one with the K2500 with all samples it
was fun but I didn't get close to the feel.

Ron

Living and playing outside the box.



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Atkins, Lee, Burton: I Got a Woman

You're only as old as the youngest woman attracted to you...

Bobby

My wife is 36, but you said "attracted to", so that
probably doesn't count. :-)

Steve