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A question about a passive voice construction
Oh yes Nancy, of course, thank you for pointing to another reading! I see now that this is another one of those deliberately ambiguous bits of narration that JA winked at in her ¡°dull elves¡±
By Arnie Perlstein · #5373 ·
Re: A question about a passive voice construction
We need the opinion of people who speak the King's English as it might be something with which they are more familiar. To me it sounds more as though Kitty were angry than that someone was angry at
By Nancy Mayer · #5372 ·
A question about a passive voice construction
After Lydia runs off with Wickham, Jane writes to Elizabeth, in part, as follows: ¡°and as to my father, I never in my life saw him so affected. Poor Kitty has anger for having concealed their
By Arnie Perlstein · #5371 ·
Re: Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
Arnie, J.Austen didn't choose the name for NA.She had named it Susan, earlier before she bought it back. She was revising it. The idea that husbands were wretched to wives was part of Catherine's
By Nancy Mayer · #5370 ·
Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
Tamar, That is an excellent parallel you draw between the three Ward (weird) sisters, and Maria, Julia, and Fanny, which was surely intentional on JA's part. As for your comment about the novel
By Arnie Perlstein · #5369 ·
Re: Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
I have always thought it otherwise: Mr. Norris was thee and needed a wife and he thought it advantageous to marry Lady Bertram's sister. "Miss Ward, at the end of half a dozen years, found herself
By Nancy Mayer · #5368 ·
Re: Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
Thanks, Tamar. I agree the focus in MP is wide ranging, and to step back a bit from a focus on Fanny makes for a more interesting read and reveals the richness of the novel. Ellen, I wonder whether
By Dorothy Gannon · #5367 ·
Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
Yes the love, mercenary class based marriage, sex-based and women must are central ideas in the novel. You can add others characters from Nancy¡¯s implied perspective
By Ellen Moody · #5366 ·
Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
Thank you, Tamar. I agree titles matter: MP is about all that happens in the house, characters, culture, ethics. Yes the sisters are carefully contested as class, money, and lifestyle. I disagree:
By Ellen Moody · #5365 ·
Re: Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
It is suggested that Julia's marriage wasn't for love but to escape the ruin of her sister's divorce. The family wasn't ranked high enough socially to be able to withstand the scandal. Julia would
By Nancy Mayer · #5364 ·
Mansfield Park but not focused on Fanny Price
IMansfield Pafk is not titled after a main character (like Emma) nor a character trait (P+P, S+S). It is named after a place (like Northanger Abbey). It would be possible to consider MP as a study of
By Tamar Lindsay · #5363 ·
Characters people hate
And of course they have read Lovers Vows before they rehearse it Arnie
By Arnie Perlstein · #5362 ·
Re: Characters people hate
On reading plays, let me say we have quite a number of character who read plays. All of them do among the younger characters in Mansfield Park. At night the adults listen to Shakespeare's Henry 8 read
By Ellen Moody · #5361 ·
Re: Characters people hate
Arnie, I¡¯m convinced that whether or not she imagined her characters reading plays, we can probably be certain she herself certainly read them (and heard them read, ¨¤ la Henry Crawford¡¯s reading
By Dorothy Gannon · #5360 ·
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Thanks so much, Nancy, Diana, Ellen, and Arnie! This is terrific, very useful info. Am collecting all your replies below, in case there are others wondering what to purchase to dig into the complete
By Dorothy Gannon · #5359 ·
Characters people hate
Just imagine Darcy and Elizabeth each having recently read this soliloquizing of Benedick's..... "...One woman is fair, yet I am well; another is wise, yet I am well; another virtuous, yet I am well;
By Arnie Perlstein · #5358 ·
Characters people hate
Then Ellen and I agree about this point of Shakespeare being read as well as performed. The scholarly irony of those 3 particular acrostics I presented is that all 3 were all discovered over 100
By Arnie Perlstein · #5357 ·
Re: Characters people hate
I disagree even vehemently with Kishor because what she asserts is so often asserted. No. NO. Shakespeare's plays, especially when printed in folios, were meant to be read. Readers in the 17th and
By Ellen Moody · #5356 ·
Characters people hate
CAROLINE: "Hello Arnie, I have looked at your examples, but I have to admit I do not get it. Does it have something to do with the arrangement of the words on the Yes indeed, in a way.... CAROLINE:
By Arnie Perlstein · #5355 ·
Re: Characters people hate
Hello Arnie, I have looked at your examples, but I have to admit I do not get it.? Does it have something to do with the arrangement of the words on the page? Rhetorical figures like the anaphora?
By Caroline Morwinsky · #5354 ·