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Then Ellen and I agree about this point of Shakespeare being read as well as performed. The scholarly irony of those 3 particular acrostics I presented is that all 3 were all discovered over 100 years

I disagree even vehemently with Kishor because what she asserts is so often asserted. No. NO. Shakespeare's plays, especially when printed in folios, were meant to be read. Readers in the 17th and

CAROLINE: "Hello Arnie, I have looked at your examples, but I have to admit I do not get it. Does it have something to do with the arrangement of the words on the Yes indeed, in a way.... CAROLINE: "

Hello Arnie, I have looked at your examples, but I have to admit I do not get it.? Does it have something to do with the arrangement of the words on the page? Rhetorical figures like the anaphora?

Hi Caroline!! I hope you will be encouraged to post more from here on in! You have perfectly summarized what I meant, but I was not clear enough in my hasty explanation to Kishor. I only add two

I am always being told that films and books are different media an are handled in different ways. I can look at films and books differently when the films aren't based on books I like. A reader sees

Dear All, First of all, please excuse this way of quoting the previous posting; I'll try to find the correct settings for quoting the whole text. I've been a reader of this group for many years (but I

Shakespeare’s plays were intended to be performed, not read.

Well I loved Austen's P&P better than S&S when I was 12/13 when I first read them in a set of English classics my father had on his shelf. It was only after I had some ravaging sexual experience at 15

Oh I don't agree with this. it is not better to have someone deluded they are reading Auten or an Austen-like text. That erases her. In DC increasingly plays labelled as by Shakespeare or a variation

Back in 1995 and for the next decade as the Austen adaptation films came pout, we would have people coming to our local JASNA meetings. Most soon left when they discovered that we did not sit around

Ellen, it’s usually a woman, onlybecause men generally are so tuned out about Austen. Better to be an Austen only-film lover than not to care about Austen at all. As I think about t, I think the

At the large JASNAs and local groups. it's not been unommon for me to meet a woman (usually a woman) who has only read Pride and Prejudice and seen the other books in their movie form -- as if they

The faults that people say they see in Emma and Fanny can be traced,, I believe, to their childhoods. Emma is often accused of being self-centered, proud , and arrogant. She is the typical little rich

Ellen, I would think that they were using hyperbole when they said they"hate" a character, except you know how vehement and nasty the Fanny and Emma wars would get on Austen-L. . The combatants would

I have never disliked any of Austen's central ladies. Nor do I always take Austen's pronouncements on her characters completely seriously, so that her comment about making Emma someone only she could

Personally, I have never felt a need to identify with any of Austen's central characters. When I first read the books I assessed the characters as to whether I would like to be their friend. One of

ELLEN: " I dislike aspects of Emma's character as realized by Jane Austen and in some ways strongly because I feel Austen doesn't find these as harmful and unjustified as I do." Ellen, I believe

Such people are using the word "hate" mindlessly. "Hate" is a dangerous emotion. The person dislikes having to identify with Fanny as heroine. I duislike aspects of Emma's character as realized by

Emma and Fanny Price are two characters that can rouse those discussing them to violence/ As most of our discussions about them have been and are online the violence is verbal and not physical. Why do