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I was very surprised. I was not there to drool over cats, but the way
they talked was sometimes themselves semi-hostile. All of them in both
sessions (there were two panels) seemed more interested in the
abstract or general topic the cat was (so to speak) attached to as an
example.

Hughes thinks this transformation happened over the middle to later
19th century. She means the reader to attribute this to a change in
the way cats were depicted, where she implies that there were always
cat-favorers but now they could admit to it since the drawings were
all very comic. She also says contests for the most beautiful cat
sprang up as people began to breed them to look better. Dogs have been
selectively bred for hundreds of years. My guess there is it was found
that dogs not being a predator and more outwardly friendly (as pack
animals could be) seemed capable of being moore useful to people than
cats. Dogs cab be very large and strong. The large cat is a tiger or
lion:)

I just feel she is leaving out the hard to record deep affection old
lonely people (often women), children learned a cat is capable of. I
have to admit I had this stereotypical view of cats until I adopted
Ian and Clarycat. One problem their more varied nature is not known is
they are private animals. None of the four I've had so far show
affection to me like they do when it's just me and them. I knew
friends said I didn't begin to see their cats as the cat saw me as a
stranger and was wary. I also know it is considered by some beneath a
man's dignity to admit to loving a cat. There was a feel of scorn for
Bill Clinton when his and Hilary's pet turned out to be a cat, not a
dog.

The pictorial books I mentioned show affectionate relationships in
the early modern period. Maybe the information and feeling for cats
was not articulated (cats took on the misogynic response women did)
but these pictures capture it -- and some old poems.

Ellen

Ellen

On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 3:54?PM Nancy Mayer via groups.io
<regencyresearcher@...> wrote:

One day, a cat wandered into a house and ate some food. Someone rubbed
his head and gave him a warm lap to sit on. The cat, being a wise animal,
said this is good.
People can't figure out when and why cats became so popular that now it is
said the WWW was invented for cat videos. The reason is that the Cats
decided that it would be so.
There are several FB pages concerning cats. Despite the damage those
murder mittens can inflict on people and furniture, cats have so enslaved
us , many would rather give up a significant other rather than a cat.
I am sorry the various programs were disappointing. One would think that
if one were talking about cats one would openly admit liking them.
Nancy


On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 11:33?AM Ellen Moody via groups.io <ellen.moody=
[email protected]> wrote:

This is better than I thought. She believes that the revolution from
despising, persecuting, or hiding your affection for cats to liking,
respecting, getting to know them, treating the infinitely better,
responsibly occurred over the 19th century and brought about by art
work in popular magazines which worked to make people see cats as
versions of themselves. I'm not so sure. Was it not bringing them
indoors because litter invented kept them at home.

Both together probably.

I'm a wee bit disappointed. I wanted a thorough convincing account of
this transformation and am not convinced

I actually prefer Caroline Bugler's and Desmond Morris's's pictorial
history and individual books like Roger Caras, A Cat is watching you.

Both sessions on cats at the virtual 18th century conference had paper
from dismaying to disappointing. It was af if they dreaded to be seen
as sentimental -- they were not interested in cats in the era at all
for real

Ellen