Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
I understand and appreciate the offer. It's just that I have so many other things I want to do, I'd rather let someone else take it on right now.
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 1:49:46 PM EST, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:
Well, you did ask for anyone to tell you about how to hook up a keyboard to your JackAl. ?I've done that. ?Use it or not - I offered.
Jim
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Sent: 1/22/2019 12:26:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim:
I remember reading about your mouse/keyboard interface. I would probably not be interested in using those interfaces to change the CW messages since it is so easy for me to do in the IDE. However, that doesn't prevent someone else from adding those interfaces if they wish. People can see Jim's products on .
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 11:25:37 AM EST, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Jack,? I sent you a private message regarding this, but now since you asked publicly, I'll make a note for all to look at -- the TSW group has been using both a Keyboard AND Mouse interface (mouse does everything touching the screen does) with our software for over 6 months now. ?You can download and look at those routines in any of our color screen versions. ?
If you use any of the versions, they ARE totally open source, it would be appreciated if you would include the author's information (Ron, W2CTX) somewhere in the comments for that routine. ?
Jack can point you to our website if he wishes, but in the interest of not being seen as hijacking this thread to promote what could be seen as a competing product (not now or ever my intention), I'll leave that up to Jack to do.
Respectfully, Jim Sheldon, W0EB
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Sent: 1/22/2019 8:48:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Excerpt: Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Well, you did ask for anyone to tell you about how to hook up a keyboard to your JackAl. ?I've done that. ?Use it or not - I offered.
Jim
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Sent: 1/22/2019 12:26:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim:
I remember reading about your mouse/keyboard interface. I would probably not be interested in using those interfaces to change the CW messages since it is so easy for me to do in the IDE. However, that doesn't prevent someone else from adding those interfaces if they wish. People can see Jim's products on .
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 11:25:37 AM EST, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Jack,? I sent you a private message regarding this, but now since you asked publicly, I'll make a note for all to look at -- the TSW group has been using both a Keyboard AND Mouse interface (mouse does everything touching the screen does) with our software for over 6 months now. ?You can download and look at those routines in any of our color screen versions. ?
If you use any of the versions, they ARE totally open source, it would be appreciated if you would include the author's information (Ron, W2CTX) somewhere in the comments for that routine. ?
Jack can point you to our website if he wishes, but in the interest of not being seen as hijacking this thread to promote what could be seen as a competing product (not now or ever my intention), I'll leave that up to Jack to do.
Respectfully, Jim Sheldon, W0EB
------ Original Message ------
Sent: 1/22/2019 8:48:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Excerpt: Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Fewer #include files to download
#include
Jack and Al,
Thanks for ALL the hard work that y'all have done and continuing to do!
The OpenAudio_ArduinoLibrary I just downloaded from ?
fixed the problems I was having compiling your code. Got it to upload to my Teensy 3.6 with Arduino IDE 1.8.8
and seemed to work OK with 1.8.7 too!
George
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jim:
I remember reading about your mouse/keyboard interface. I would probably not be interested in using those interfaces to change the CW messages since it is so easy for me to do in the IDE. However, that doesn't prevent someone else from adding those interfaces if they wish. People can see Jim's products on .
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 11:25:37 AM EST, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:
Jack,? I sent you a private message regarding this, but now since you asked publicly, I'll make a note for all to look at -- the TSW group has been using both a Keyboard AND Mouse interface (mouse does everything touching the screen does) with our software for over 6 months now. ?You can download and look at those routines in any of our color screen versions. ?
If you use any of the versions, they ARE totally open source, it would be appreciated if you would include the author's information (Ron, W2CTX) somewhere in the comments for that routine. ?
Jack can point you to our website if he wishes, but in the interest of not being seen as hijacking this thread to promote what could be seen as a competing product (not now or ever my intention), I'll leave that up to Jack to do.
Respectfully, Jim Sheldon, W0EB
------ Original Message ------
Sent: 1/22/2019 8:48:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Excerpt: Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Jackal board from QRPGuys
I sent two email on 1-17 requesting a replacement or refund on the damaged board. As of today I haven't? received any reply!
Don't know what else to do but go through PayPal!
Not happy!
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jack,? I sent you a private message regarding this, but now since you asked publicly, I'll make a note for all to look at -- the TSW group has been using both a Keyboard AND Mouse interface (mouse does everything touching the screen does) with our software for over 6 months now. ?You can download and look at those routines in any of our color screen versions. ?
If you use any of the versions, they ARE totally open source, it would be appreciated if you would include the author's information (Ron, W2CTX) somewhere in the comments for that routine. ?
Jack can point you to our website if he wishes, but in the interest of not being seen as hijacking this thread to promote what could be seen as a competing product (not now or ever my intention), I'll leave that up to Jack to do.
Respectfully, Jim Sheldon, W0EB
------ Original Message ------
Sent: 1/22/2019 8:48:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Excerpt: Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Nothing attached??
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 2:10:14 AM EST, James Zdunic <james_zdunic@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: I am not able to upload files to the board so I sent the file to Jack.]
Attached is a document I threw together showing what I did to get the IDE to communicate with the Teensy and compile/upload files.? Jack you are welcome to utilize this if it's helpful. Jim KM4TXR
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
No one should feel they have to hide because JackAl lacks a certain feature. That's a primary reason for JackAl being Open Source...so you people can improve it. Making useful comments to JackAl is not like saying Al and my first-born has warts. It's an avenue to making JackAl better.
Hans does it that way because you don't have access to the source code. That's not the case here. Just like you can dig a canal with a power shovel or a teaspoon, so would these two alternatives be possible with JackAl. It just seems so simple to spend 10 minutes learning how to do a compile and it's done. However, there may be those who wish for message editing in the field. If that's the case, perhaps you could do the interface for editing the messages at runtime. That would be kinda cool.
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 9:01:02 AM EST, Roy Appleton <twelveoclockhigh@...> wrote:
Jack, no problem, respectfully I had it in my head that you could add/change messages by inputting them with the keyer. I'm probably confusing it with Hans radios. I'll crawl back in my hole and be quiet.
Roy WA0YMH
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 10:33 PM jjpurdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum= [email protected] wrote:
Why would you need to do that more than once? You can have 50 different messages, which is enough to do the exchanges for every ARRL contest I know of. In fact, there's enough SRAM space that you could double the string space if you want. So, make your list of CW messages you want to use and then enter them. It will probably be years before you need to change them if you give them a little thought up front.
Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
Ok, I know that I'm going to get in trouble opening my mouth but here goes! So the only way I can change configuration variables such as cw messages is recompling the code and reinstalling everytime? For 1 thing, not everyone wants one of their built in cw message to be; "cq de w8tee"? RonW0QVJ
Sent from my Galaxy Tab? E
-------- Original message -------- Date: 1/21/19 11:59 AM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Ok, I'm going to show my ignorance. Why can't the code be compiled once and the resulting machine code be distributed instead of everyone having to compile their own code?
Roy WA0YMH On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 12:52 PM Art Olson < olson339@... wrote: Jack I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
Art N2AJO On Jan 20, 2019, at 10:56 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < jjpurdum@...> wrote:
I could be, I just don't know right now. Still investigating.
Jack, W8TEE
On Sunday, January 20, 2019, 10:48:00 AM EST, f1apy - Jacques < f1apy@...> wrote:
Hello Jack, ? It’s possible that Teensyduino version is not good with Arduino IDE version 1.8.8, I have encountered some problems in past when I work with teensy 2.0 See on forum. 73’s de Jacques – F1APY ?? ? ? All:
I just used Version 1.8.8 of the Arduino IDE and it appears that the code does NOT work with that version. As you can see here:
<image001.jpg>
it does work on 1.8.7. So, even though the latest doc file shows the 1.8.8 compiler, don't upgrade for now until I figure out where the issue is with 1.8.8. (This is one reason why my system has 18 versions of the IDE on it going back to 1.05.)
Also, look in the JackAl.h header file at the #include files. Any non-standard libraries will have the download URL as a comment on the line where you can download/install the new libraries. Some of these libraries have changed in recent months, so you might want to update them. Don't forget, you must close the IDE after any new library is installed and reopen it for the new library to be accessed. Also, the standard RA8875 library is missing a modification we did to it. You? can download our version from the web site.
Jack, W8TEE
<image001.jpg>
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Re: IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files
Thanks, Art...
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 9:16:46 AM EST, Art Olson <olson339@...> wrote:
Jack ? I too want to thank you and Al for all of your hard work. I read the new documentation, followed your specific structure requirements, copied the updated include files from your email into the JackAl.h file. I then ran the IDE 1.8.8 compiler with no problems and up-loaded the file to the teensy. Your updated instructions worked like a charm. Now just waiting on part for the build. Again thanks and appreciate your patience. ? 73 Art N2AJO ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jjpurdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 11:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JackAl] IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files ? All:
We have just uploaded a new document file that explains how we want to see you install the JackAl software. I can tell from some of the questions I'm getting that some people do not understand how the IDE works, especially in terms of how the compiler expects things when using libraries. It will help immensely if everyone uses the same directory structure for the IDE and the JackAl source code files. I believe in this strongly enough that, going forward, I will only answer software questions when I am certain that you have installed all of the software using the guideline provided in this new document. Having a common denominator will make software support much easier for Al and me. Fixing any issues is best done quickly so I can get back to other things we want JackAl to do down the road.
The name of the file is:
???????????????????????????????????? LibraryInstallationInstructions.doc
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Because I don't own a smart phone. JackAl is meant to be an experimenter's platform. This would be one of those great things for you to do.
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 9:17:48 AM EST, Dennis Zabawa <kg4rul@...> wrote:
Looking at my Smart Phone, I can enter alphanumeric characters on the touch screen using the touch keyboard that is part of the programming.? Why could such a method not be used for entering messages, etc.?? I am not saying that should be a priority but, it is a possible upgrade.
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Looking at my Smart Phone, I can enter alphanumeric characters on the touch screen using the touch keyboard that is part of the programming.? Why could such a method not be used for entering messages, etc.?? I am not saying that should be a priority but, it is a possible upgrade.
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Re: IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files
Jack ? I too want to thank you and Al for all of your hard work. I read the new documentation, followed your specific structure requirements, copied the updated include files from your email into the JackAl.h file. I then ran the IDE 1.8.8 compiler with no problems and up-loaded the file to the teensy. Your updated instructions worked like a charm. Now just waiting on part for the build. Again thanks and appreciate your patience. ? 73 Art N2AJO ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jjpurdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 11:24 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [JackAl] IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files ? All:
We have just uploaded a new document file that explains how we want to see you install the JackAl software. I can tell from some of the questions I'm getting that some people do not understand how the IDE works, especially in terms of how the compiler expects things when using libraries. It will help immensely if everyone uses the same directory structure for the IDE and the JackAl source code files. I believe in this strongly enough that, going forward, I will only answer software questions when I am certain that you have installed all of the software using the guideline provided in this new document. Having a common denominator will make software support much easier for Al and me. Fixing any issues is best done quickly so I can get back to other things we want JackAl to do down the road.
The name of the file is:
???????????????????????????????????? LibraryInstallationInstructions.doc
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Jack, no problem, respectfully I had it in my head that you could add/change messages by inputting them with the keyer. I'm probably confusing it with Hans radios. I'll crawl back in my hole and be quiet.
Roy WA0YMH
On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 10:33 PM jjpurdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum= [email protected] wrote:
Why would you need to do that more than once? You can have 50 different messages, which is enough to do the exchanges for every ARRL contest I know of. In fact, there's enough SRAM space that you could double the string space if you want. So, make your list of CW messages you want to use and then enter them. It will probably be years before you need to change them if you give them a little thought up front.
Most of the other variables that you are likely to change (e.g., keyer speed, sidetone frequency, equalizer bands, etc.) can be changed at runtime. Finally, if you can think of a convenient way to add a keyboard to the ?BITX so messages can be edited in the field, I'd like to know about it.
Jack, W8TEE
Ok, I know that I'm going to get in trouble opening my mouth but here goes! So the only way I can change configuration variables such as cw messages is recompling the code and reinstalling everytime? For 1 thing, not everyone wants one of their built in cw message to be; "cq de w8tee"? RonW0QVJ
Sent from my Galaxy Tab? E
-------- Original message -------- Date: 1/21/19 11:59 AM (GMT-07:00) Subject: Re: [JackAl] Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Ok, I'm going to show my ignorance. Why can't the code be compiled once and the resulting machine code be distributed instead of everyone having to compile their own code?
Roy WA0YMH On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 12:52 PM Art Olson < olson339@... wrote: Jack I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
Art N2AJO On Jan 20, 2019, at 10:56 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < jjpurdum@...> wrote:
I could be, I just don't know right now. Still investigating.
Jack, W8TEE
On Sunday, January 20, 2019, 10:48:00 AM EST, f1apy - Jacques < f1apy@...> wrote:
Hello Jack, ? It’s possible that Teensyduino version is not good with Arduino IDE version 1.8.8, I have encountered some problems in past when I work with teensy 2.0 See on forum. 73’s de Jacques – F1APY ?? ? ? All:
I just used Version 1.8.8 of the Arduino IDE and it appears that the code does NOT work with that version. As you can see here:
<image001.jpg>
it does work on 1.8.7. So, even though the latest doc file shows the 1.8.8 compiler, don't upgrade for now until I figure out where the issue is with 1.8.8. (This is one reason why my system has 18 versions of the IDE on it going back to 1.05.)
Also, look in the JackAl.h header file at the #include files. Any non-standard libraries will have the download URL as a comment on the line where you can download/install the new libraries. Some of these libraries have changed in recent months, so you might want to update them. Don't forget, you must close the IDE after any new library is installed and reopen it for the new library to be accessed. Also, the standard RA8875 library is missing a modification we did to it. You? can download our version from the web site.
Jack, W8TEE
<image001.jpg>
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
All:
I have the group set up so that I receive everyone's first post. Group.io defaults to that to prevent bots from making obscene posts on a site. Once you have made a post, you should be able to post files, too. I'll check to make sure that's turned on. I try to check this site several times a day, but sometimes I can't. That's why a first post might be delayed a while.
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 2:10:14 AM EST, James Zdunic <james_zdunic@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: I am not able to upload files to the board so I sent the file to Jack.]
Attached is a document I threw together showing what I did to get the IDE to communicate with the Teensy and compile/upload files.? Jack you are welcome to utilize this if it's helpful. Jim KM4TXR
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
The Teensyduino is a software patch to the Arduino IDE that allows you to use that IDE for code development. I have another doc file coming out with details on that. The "library installation" file download provides some details, too.
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 12:46:14 AM EST, James Zdunic <james_zdunic@...> wrote:
Art, do you mean the plug-in windows software package from mentioned on the PJRC site that works hand in hand with the IDE software to facilitate uploading complied code directly from the IDE into teensy?
I’m using the same plug in software package and am able to compile/upload test code into the teensy with no problem after configuring COM port and board type in the IDE settings. ?
I have not yet attempted to upload the the jackal firmware.
Jim KM4TXR
On Jan 22, 2019, at 12:11 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < s@...> wrote:
What do you mean "Teensy loader"? Programs should use the Arduino IDE to load files.
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 5:21:55 PM EST, Art Olson < olson339@...> wrote:
Jim
Thanks for the detailed reply. I am at a point of trying to load a sketch via IDE and the teensy loader with no luck. I was loading the blink program. There doesn’t seem to be a port opened using win10 so the upload fails. I have tried a couple of usb/mini
usb cables again no luck. The usb cable is providing power as the on board led blinks.?
Thoughts
Art
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files
Thanks...it's always nice when your efforts are recognized! I'll be posting another document today or tomorrow that deals with using the IDE to compile/upload code. BTW, you should all know that Al is very involved in the documentation, too, and supplied huge chunks of code (especially in the DSP and filters area) for JackAl's software.
Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 1:04:35 AM EST, Iain Fraser <ifra54382@...> wrote:
Good Afternoon,
I would like to thank you for all the work you are doing, I must
admit to being one of those tearing their hair out. I did a fresh
install of both Arduino IDE and Teensy add on for this project to
avoid duplicate libraries etc. which I have encountered before,
only to encounter it again.
Thanks again.
73
Iain VK5ZIF
On 22/01/2019 2:53 pm, jjpurdum via
Groups.Io wrote:
All:
We have just uploaded a new document file that explains how we
want to see you install the JackAl software. I can tell from some
of the questions I'm getting that some people do not understand
how the IDE works, especially in terms of how the compiler expects
things when using libraries. It will help immensely if
everyone uses the same directory structure for the IDE and the
JackAl source code files. I believe in this strongly enough that,
going forward, I will only answer software questions when I am
certain that you have installed all of the software using the
guideline provided in this new document. Having a common
denominator will make software support much easier for Al and me.
Fixing any issues is best done quickly so I can get back to other
things we want JackAl to do down the road.
The name of the file is:
????????????????????????????????????
LibraryInstallationInstructions.doc
Jack, W8TEE
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Yes that is what meant. Once I dug up a usb cable that worked everything worked as expected. I was able to upload the sketch
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On Jan 22, 2019, at 12:46 AM, James Zdunic < james_zdunic@...> wrote:
Art, do you mean the plug-in windows software package from mentioned on the PJRC site that works hand in hand with the IDE software to facilitate uploading complied code directly from the IDE into teensy?
I’m using the same plug in software package and am able to compile/upload test code into the teensy with no problem after configuring COM port and board type in the IDE settings. ?
I have not yet attempted to upload the the jackal firmware.
Jim KM4TXR
On Jan 22, 2019, at 12:11 AM, jjpurdum via Groups.Io < s@...> wrote:
What do you mean "Teensy loader"? Programs should use the Arduino IDE to load files.
Jack, W8TEE
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 5:21:55 PM EST, Art Olson < olson339@...> wrote:
Jim
Thanks for the detailed reply. I am at a point of trying to load a sketch via IDE and the teensy loader with no luck. I was loading the blink program. There doesn’t seem to be a port opened using win10 so the upload fails. I have tried a couple of usb/mini
usb cables again no luck. The usb cable is providing power as the on board led blinks.?
Thoughts
Art
On Jan 21, 2019, at 5:06 PM, Jim Sheldon < w0eb@...> wrote:
Art,
I didn't see a definitive answer yet and I know Jack is super busy trying to sort out everyone's problems so I'll answer your question.? The pad in question is shown on the back side of the Teensy 3.6 (and other Teensy's as well) pinout card that came with
it, as the VIN/VUSB jumper and it says to cut that jumper if using a battery charger OR external power.? The battery charger isn't relevant here, but external power is so the jumper MUST be cut.
Now for the reason which isn't readily apparent.
You are powering the Teensy 3.6 from the 5 volt regulator on the JackAl board.? If you have not cut the jumper and plug the USB cable in to re-program the Teensy (or for some other purpose like CAT control or other serial I/O from the USB port) you are also
supplying a nominal 5 volts from the USB port to the Teensy.? The two voltages will most certainly not be exactly equal as they come from two different power sources and they WILL conflict with possible damage to the Teensy's on-board 3.3V regulator and other
circuitry (I know, I destroyed one by doing this before I figured it out).
So, in this case if you don't cut the jumper, don't connect the USB cable with the JackAl powered up.? By the same token, if you follow PJRC's directions and cut the jumper, you will have to power the JackAl up to get the Teensy operating before you will be
able to re-program it.?
If, like me, you sometimes forget these things then cut the jumper (recommended anyway) and just remember that you have to have the JackAl powered up to use the USB connection to program the Teensy 3.6 (or to communicate with it for any reason).
Jim Sheldon - W0EB
___________________________________________________________________________________________________
(Art Olson)
Jack
I vaguely recall some discussion about cutting the 5 volt pad on the teensy. Is this still necessary or am I off target.?
?
Art N2AJO
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Re: IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files
Jack, Thanks for your effort. You really work too hard for a fellow your age! ? (Some of the problems I had,were with the ide remembering too much from my AA project, had to change the sketchbook in preferences to my new rooted directory, before i could stop the compiler from finding libraries in program files /arduino where I had the ide installed before. That fixed my, (most), problems as I did a compile before adding libraries and let the compiler tell me what was missing...) Anyway thanks again! Ron W0QVJ
Sent from my Galaxy Tab? E
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Re: Arduino IDE version 1.8.8 issues
Attached is a document I threw together showing what I did to get the IDE to communicate with the Teensy and compile/upload files.?
Jack you are welcome to utilize this if it's helpful.
Jim KM4TXR
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Re: IMPORTANT -- New Doc files for Understanding/Installing Library Files
Good Afternoon,
I would like to thank you for all the work you are doing, I must
admit to being one of those tearing their hair out. I did a fresh
install of both Arduino IDE and Teensy add on for this project to
avoid duplicate libraries etc. which I have encountered before,
only to encounter it again.
Thanks again.
73
Iain VK5ZIF
On 22/01/2019 2:53 pm, jjpurdum via
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All:
We have just uploaded a new document file that explains how we
want to see you install the JackAl software. I can tell from some
of the questions I'm getting that some people do not understand
how the IDE works, especially in terms of how the compiler expects
things when using libraries. It will help immensely if
everyone uses the same directory structure for the IDE and the
JackAl source code files. I believe in this strongly enough that,
going forward, I will only answer software questions when I am
certain that you have installed all of the software using the
guideline provided in this new document. Having a common
denominator will make software support much easier for Al and me.
Fixing any issues is best done quickly so I can get back to other
things we want JackAl to do down the road.
The name of the file is:
????????????????????????????????????
LibraryInstallationInstructions.doc
Jack, W8TEE
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George Baumann