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The option of going over Piute Pass to North Lake and then going from South Lake over Bishop Pass certainly seems like the safest option, and it could even be done with either a road walk or via Tyee

Hikers are kind of like water. They will find a work around and get down the trail. Randy Satterfield 704-575-6510

Lizzy, thank you very much for the route details. I was in the same area just two weeks or so after you were! One thing I noted is that you dropped down to Post Corral and Long Meadows and then

In response to Jim's queries about the route over Thompson Pass. I hiked this in early July 2018, as a loop out of Florence Lake. The trail up Goddard Canyon beyond the JMT was worked on in 2017/2018

Ok, forget that. The hairy part I recollect is if one goes over the back of Wanda into the Ionian basin and then works down Goddard Canyon. Your route suggestion sounds pretty good to me too.

Hi Karina, I did not intend to judge, lecture, or upset you, and apologize if it came across that way. I may have misunderstood your comment that you would "...go for force major case with a

I want to urge everyone to be mindful that discussion here could send many hundreds of people through off-trail routes creating heavy use trails in what have been less impacted spots. Also, I wonder

Dear Ed, Did you actually follow the thread ? I could do that as a day hike if this is viable and that is what our admins suggested ? I’m Sierra Club local chapter for goodness sake. Before you jump

Please don't just consider ignoring the permit rules. If everyone does that, the area will be overrun and the wilderness adversely impacted.. Wait to see what transpires. If the bridge remains out

My recollection is that it is a bit hairy at the top along the side of some lakes and talus slopes right into the lake and with snow? Or is that elsewhere? Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 4:00

There isn’t single Bishop pass permit in July - beginning of August. It is extremely competitive TH. I have Piute P permit. It was my original entry before bridge news. Going that way is completely

Regarding the possible SOBO hiker reroute over Piute Pass to North Lake, then out of South Lake over Bishop Pass (or the reverse if NOBO) In 2002 we wanted to do the North Lake-South Lake loop over

Key issue with the Bishop Pass-Piute Pass route - your permit? Would the wilderness managers turn a blind eye, given the circumstances, or will this be a rush on Piute Pass permits?

I concur. The upper lake area is very tiring with massive blocks. Having said that we had to assist a father and son who foulishly went onto the ice field on the Eastside of Lamarck col. In early

One follow-up to my earlier note. Google Earth shows a bridge over the S. Fork of San Joaquin at the top of Florence Lake on the Florence Lake Trail. The western bypass relies on that to work.

Elizabeth Wenk's comment on my quotation of "her" report on Lamarck Col talus: "Hm... I read this just now John Ladd and those didn't feel like my words - that is one of the hikes Mike White wrote

There seems to be something of dismissal of the western bypass alternative using Hell For Sure Pass. (From MTR, drop down to Florence, climb to Thompson Pass, then Hell for Sure Pass, drop down into

Ned Tibbits from Facebook: PCT/JMT SEKI damaged bridge re-routes: The online, greater hiking community contains many wise and savvy professionals who are great at figuring out the possible re-routes

I share Peter's concern. Snow-covered talus is super-dangerous so I'd advise avoiding any of the proposed XC routes that include non-trivial stretches of talus. It would be very easy to break an ankle

Hi John, Thanks for the info.? So very nice to see you back and interacting.? Praying there were no long term effects from your incident. Best,John Powell