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An interesting, and somewhat frustrating, observation I made from someone posting about backpacking plans *inside* Yosemite: they described their permit, and it was an HI-past LYV (Donohue eligible)

I believe mine is the 12th edition, but I have my eyes on a 1946 edition in "Fine" condition for $45. Just talking about makes me want to pull the trigger it...now.

Been listening to y’all so went ahead and got permits out of shepherd pass and heading north exiting Yosemite. Don’t know how I’m going to get to the trailhead or if I drop my car there get back

Hey Rick, good to know about your Starr's Guide.? What editiion do you have?? The map was always more of a reference than a nav tool, but it is pretty cool.? I have several editions, but still

I've been hiking parts of the JMT since 2015, and have never been skunked.? But I've never applied for the HI to Whitney lottery before either.? Lots of opportunities to hike the JMT, and the one

I am not sure? I am completely comfortable? about it going to the conservancy.? I support them voluntarily, but I like to choose my charity contributions, and this one fwls too much like an

Well said Peter. I imagine that few JMT hikers have ever heard of (or used) Starr's Guide. It was the definitive trail source information book when I first came to Yosemite in the Seventies. I love

It is interesting to note that the permitting system for the Wonderland Trail in WA (which uses Rec.gov) has a pre-lottery window in which people register for a chance to get a permit and then those

Thanks all (mostly all) for the wonderful feedback. This group always come thru. A special thanks to Peter who really opened up my mind with his thoughtful response. I’m excited as ever to get out

Do you think there is scalping going on? Is that even possible?

Thanks Peter for this thoughtful and beautifully written post. I had written off the Sierras for 2022 after reading in this group and elsewhere about the difficulties others have faced in getting

Byron, fees don't all go to Rec.gov though they do get part of it. The rest goes to the Yosemite Conservancy and funds projects. For others, yes, things are pretty bad this year and we're getting

Ravi, things have indeed changed dramatically this year. Cottonwood Pass/Lakes permits are gone instantly, and anything else that accesses the JMT go quickly as well. Even the notorious east side

These are interesting comments. I am currently reading Ropper’s high route book and find the early exploration and history of the Sierra fascinating. My personal experience is that routes off the

Not certain who is looking for a permit, but there is a single permit open out of Red Cones on 8/6 and 8/8. 18 permits open up tomorrow for 8/9. Just be on the computer at 7:00 a.m. PST. Assuming

I wonder whether it would help to know that there IS no official route, that the trail is largely a cultural construct. There is no single authority governing the trail, as there is for example with

Hi Steve Please try at 7am tomorrow for Aug 9th. You will find it. Also, there are a lot of cancellations within the last two weeks as well.

Frustrated - Even Rush Creek TH is completely booked for July and the first week of August.

I couldn't agree more strongly with this. I totally get the desire to do the official route - I felt that way on my first JMT in 2013 and obsessively stuck to the trail and it was a great experience.

I loved what Peter Hirst wrote! Thank you! I have only done JMT Nobo all 3 times. Because I didn’t wanted to deal with then mostly free lottery. Now this year I COULD NOT get Cottonwood Pass. Lakes