Re: Garmin inReach and weather apps
Guten Abend, Henning ! I was hoping you would reply! No I had no clue that Earthmate could be used on airplane mode with Bluetooth activated. I will try that. SE reminds me of Nokia and it is actually totally that, I never realized it until now and I type lengthly messages using onscreen keyboard. I saw that mini has horrid system of doing that scrolling trough alphabet (?) after emails pointing that is possible. I like everything sturdy, reliable and maxed in performance. Vielen Dank. Karina Bezkrovnaia
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On Mar 11, 2023, at 09:37, Henning Rech <whrech@...> wrote:
? Hi Karina,
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with the mini/mini2 you can text directly from the device.
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The user interface to type in a customized text is obviously poor, with just 4 keys, but in case of emergency or with enough patience, it is possible.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=6QHPoAkPk8Ae3k4323WjQ9
Otherwise just keep the SE.
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Henning
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PS: you know that you can use earthmate in flight mode of your phone, just Bluetooth has to be activated. I do not see a big increase in power consumption, especially when you may just activate it once in the evening?
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Von:?"Karina Bezkrovnaia via groups.io" <kbezkrovnaia@...>
An:[email protected]
Betreff:?[JMT-groups.io] Garmin inReach and weather apps
Greetings to beloved community,
Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
Thoughts?
I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
Thank you!
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Garmin inReach and weather apps
Hi Karina,
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with the mini/mini2 you can text directly from the device.
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The user interface to type in a customized text is obviously poor, with just 4 keys, but in case of emergency or with enough patience, it is possible.
https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?faq=6QHPoAkPk8Ae3k4323WjQ9
Otherwise just keep the SE.
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Henning
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PS: you know that you can use earthmate in flight mode of your phone, just Bluetooth has to be activated. I do not see a big increase in power consumption, especially when you may just activate it once in the evening?
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Gesendet:?Samstag, 11. M?rz 2023 um 17:24 Uhr
Von:?"Karina Bezkrovnaia via groups.io" <kbezkrovnaia@...>
An:[email protected]
Betreff:?[JMT-groups.io] Garmin inReach and weather apps
Greetings to beloved community,
Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
Thoughts?
I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
Thank you!
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Garmin inReach and weather apps
Anand, What are ? canned ? messages ? Does mini has same on screen keyboard system like SE? Karina Bezkrovnaia
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On Mar 11, 2023, at 09:12, Anand Kumar Sankaran <anand.sankaran@...> wrote:
? You can send canned messages out of Inreach Mini, you don't need to use the phone to send those messages. On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 at 09:10, Karina Bezkrovnaia via <kbezkrovnaia= [email protected]> wrote: Thank you ? Derek,
So no issues to get all that info offline , right ? I’m not happy with inReach weather reports for that matter.
I have downloaded both apps, just haven’t decided on subscription.
Gaia killed FarOut for me as I always needed to plot my own and see alt options ones out there. So was looking for similar experience with weather. And I’m stationed in Tahoe in Winter and most of the Summer, so that is great to know !
Karina Bezkrovnaia
> On Mar 11, 2023, at 08:41, Derek Koonce <derek@...> wrote:
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> ?I found OpenSnow and OpenSummit to be great apps for weather prediction, smoke maps, etc. One subscription gets both unlimited. I believe it was $29/yr.
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> I use the OpenSnow to track the snow fall predictions - the main reason it was put together by some great weather predictors and not your common weather station hack. Brian, who covers the Tahoe region is fantastic in his detailed reports and discusses the various models.
>
> OpenSummit is the summer app that provides weather at numerous peaks. One can even download a map section. This provides snow depths, smoke coverage, and many other overlays.
>
> They do great predictions out 5 days, which is typical. They go out to 10 days as well. Also, they operate world wide as well; though I have not looked at areas such as middle of Siberia or China or Africa, etc.
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> I have been using both for several years now, and have been very pleased with both apps.
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> Two Dogs
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>> On 3/11/2023 08:24, Karina Bezkrovnaia via wrote:
>> Greetings to beloved community,
>> Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
>> That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
>> The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
>> Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
>> Thoughts?
>> I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
>> Thank you!
>> Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Garmin inReach and weather apps
You can send canned messages out of Inreach Mini, you don't need to use the phone to send those messages.
On Sat, 11 Mar 2023 at 09:10, Karina Bezkrovnaia via <kbezkrovnaia= [email protected]> wrote: Thank you ? Derek,
So no issues to get all that info offline , right ? I’m not happy with inReach weather reports for that matter.
I have downloaded both apps, just haven’t decided on subscription.
Gaia killed FarOut for me as I always needed to plot my own and see alt options ones out there. So was looking for similar experience with weather. And I’m stationed in Tahoe in Winter and most of the Summer, so that is great to know !
Karina Bezkrovnaia
> On Mar 11, 2023, at 08:41, Derek Koonce <derek@...> wrote:
>
> ?I found OpenSnow and OpenSummit to be great apps for weather prediction, smoke maps, etc. One subscription gets both unlimited. I believe it was $29/yr.
>
> I use the OpenSnow to track the snow fall predictions - the main reason it was put together by some great weather predictors and not your common weather station hack. Brian, who covers the Tahoe region is fantastic in his detailed reports and discusses the various models.
>
> OpenSummit is the summer app that provides weather at numerous peaks. One can even download a map section. This provides snow depths, smoke coverage, and many other overlays.
>
> They do great predictions out 5 days, which is typical. They go out to 10 days as well. Also, they operate world wide as well; though I have not looked at areas such as middle of Siberia or China or Africa, etc.
>
> I have been using both for several years now, and have been very pleased with both apps.
>
> Two Dogs
>
>> On 3/11/2023 08:24, Karina Bezkrovnaia via wrote:
>> Greetings to beloved community,
>> Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
>> That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
>> The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
>> Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
>> Thoughts?
>> I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
>> Thank you!
>> Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Garmin inReach and weather apps
Thank you ? Derek,
So no issues to get all that info offline , right ? I’m not happy with inReach weather reports for that matter.
I have downloaded both apps, just haven’t decided on subscription.
Gaia killed FarOut for me as I always needed to plot my own and see alt options ones out there. So was looking for similar experience with weather. And I’m stationed in Tahoe in Winter and most of the Summer, so that is great to know !
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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On Mar 11, 2023, at 08:41, Derek Koonce <derek@...> wrote:
?I found OpenSnow and OpenSummit to be great apps for weather prediction, smoke maps, etc. One subscription gets both unlimited. I believe it was $29/yr.
I use the OpenSnow to track the snow fall predictions - the main reason it was put together by some great weather predictors and not your common weather station hack. Brian, who covers the Tahoe region is fantastic in his detailed reports and discusses the various models.
OpenSummit is the summer app that provides weather at numerous peaks. One can even download a map section. This provides snow depths, smoke coverage, and many other overlays.
They do great predictions out 5 days, which is typical. They go out to 10 days as well. Also, they operate world wide as well; though I have not looked at areas such as middle of Siberia or China or Africa, etc.
I have been using both for several years now, and have been very pleased with both apps.
Two Dogs
On 3/11/2023 08:24, Karina Bezkrovnaia via groups.io wrote:
Greetings to beloved community,
Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
Thoughts?
I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
Thank you!
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Garmin inReach and weather apps
I found OpenSnow and OpenSummit to be great apps for weather prediction, smoke maps, etc. One subscription gets both unlimited. I believe it was $29/yr.
I use the OpenSnow to track the snow fall predictions - the main reason it was put together by some great weather predictors and not your common weather station hack. Brian, who covers the Tahoe region is fantastic in his detailed reports and discusses the various models.
OpenSummit is the summer app that provides weather at numerous peaks. One can even download a map section. This provides snow depths, smoke coverage, and many other overlays.
They do great predictions out 5 days, which is typical. They go out to 10 days as well. Also, they operate world wide as well; though I have not looked at areas such as middle of Siberia or China or Africa, etc.
I have been using both for several years now, and have been very pleased with both apps.
Two Dogs
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On 3/11/2023 08:24, Karina Bezkrovnaia via groups.io wrote: Greetings to beloved community,
Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
Thoughts?
I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
Thank you!
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Garmin inReach and weather apps
Greetings to beloved community,
Two questions for those familiar with - with Garmin discontinuing inReach SE and SE+ what options do we have in terms of texting directly within devise?
That was the whole purpose of me holding into my old SE. I do not feel great about needing frequent recharge both phone and Garmin. So never used Earthmate app on the trail and learned to do customized texts within inReach itself. One reason I would like to continue with this feature is because something can happen to the phone (they are not as sturdy now as Nokias ones were) and for that matter I had an accident on the trail with my phone falling into the stream and unusable for the rest of the trip. That means with new line of Garmin mini and messenger , just like zoleo you are bound to use an app?
The other questions is your preferred offline weather apps?
Someone on FB immediately jumped in with “text your daughter or partner etc”, but that wasn’t my question. I like to have my independent plan and options.
Thoughts?
I know there are tremendous engineering brains and backcountry loners here :)
Thank you!
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Thank you.
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My conclusion resulted from sources like
https://www.satellitetoday.com/iiot/2023/01/06/skylo-expands-satellite-access-for-iot-and-smart-phones-with-quectel-and-bullitt/
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Motorola Defy: Lenovo (China)?brand
Bullit: UK outdoor phone company which seems to design this device
MediaTek: Taiwan smartphone chip manufacturer
Skylo: reseller of satellite services from Inmarsat for IoT (internet of things) applications
Inmarsat: the GEO satellite operator
Focus Point: the critical event responder
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Skylo:?https://www.skylo.tech/about-us
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compared to:
Garmin (brand/designer of devices)
??? (chip manufacturer)
Iridium: the LEO satellite operator
GEOS:?the critical event responder (now also bought by Garmin)
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Apple has now started the race with satellite communication built into smartphones. The most interesting development for us is the announcement of Qualcomm (San Diego) to implement Iridium access into their next generation of smartphone chips which will be found in high end Android phones, like Samsung. I expect to see a Samsung phone with inReach capabilities before the end of this year.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2023/01/qualcomm-introduces-snapdragon-satellite--the-world-s-first-sate
While the smartphone may not be ideal for tracking (it radiates out of the back side, which then should point to the sky).
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Henning
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Gesendet:?Samstag, 25. Februar 2023 um 20:26 Uhr
Von:?"Carl Joplin" <c.joplin@...>
An:[email protected]
Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Based on the link at the bottom of this page to Globalstar, it appears an SOS on the new device will connect to the same service as Spot devices.
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Re: snowpack further north
As we are now into March and closer to the April 1 level which is the level measured against for the snowpack in the Sierras it is becoming very clear that this will be close to the 1982/83 record, above 2017 and 2011, as seen in "Mile Mile and a Half".? ?I'm not planning on a Sierra hike this year, but if I were, I would definitely expect a lot of snow into early August.? It should be spectacular, if not a bit buggy:)
I really appreciate the info about the snowpack, esp the charts showing different years/months. I'd love to see 2021 in there - must have been fairly low snowpack, because we walked through no snow anywhere. In 2019 I bailed after experiencing AMS but also because all the PCTers coming northbound were telling terrible tales of 7 miles of continuous snow... not for me! I live in the stuff every winter, and don't care for it in summer also.
Although it's not JMT, is the info about snowpack available for points further north along the PCT? I'm thinking of a couple of sections, I and J in CA. But thinking that the snow might be just as challenging in those areas, since Tahoe got hit hard. It's only early Feb though! I'm working on Plans B and C as well.?
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Re: Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Had a chance to talk to Motorola folks involved in the development of the Defy today and also to played with this device a bit. It is very lightweight, was told 70g (for all you gram counters out there).
And yes, it does not need a smartphone to issue SOS or the pre programmed status message.
The rubber thingy covering the USB-C port appeared a bit flimsy, otherwise this unit left a good overall impression. Geo coverage is somewhat limited though, they still work on growth.
In my opinion, the major challenge for these guys will be capturing users currently locked into the Garmin ecosystem, think Garmin to Garmin use case. Not sure how that would work from a Garmin <-> Motola device.
Either way, certainly a welcome arrival mixing up the market a bit.
HappyTrails!
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I checked with YARTS. The website is still being updated.
They sent my a copy of the 395/120E schedule pdf that looks like a slightly updated version of the one available online at .
They added a note that the 395-1/395-2 buses only run July 1, 2023 through August 31, 2023. The 395-3/4 buses run to October 1, 2023.
Frank
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On 2/24/2023 10:55 AM, Frank via groups.io wrote: YARTS.com was updated with the 2023 schedules.
395/120E Yosemite-Mammoth Lakes bus will be running July 1 - October 1, 2023 when Tioga Pass is open. Only 1 bus per day this year.
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Re: Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Thank you.
?
My conclusion resulted from sources like
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Motorola Defy: Lenovo (China)?brand
Bullit: UK outdoor phone company which seems to design this device
MediaTek: Taiwan smartphone chip manufacturer
Skylo: reseller of satellite services from Inmarsat for IoT (internet of things) applications
Inmarsat: the GEO satellite operator
Focus Point: the critical event responder
?
Skylo:?
?
compared to:
Garmin (brand/designer of devices)
??? (chip manufacturer)
Iridium: the LEO satellite operator
GEOS:?the critical event responder (now also bought by Garmin)
?
Apple has now started the race with satellite communication built into smartphones. The most interesting development for us is the announcement of Qualcomm (San Diego) to implement Iridium access into their next generation of smartphone chips which will be found in high end Android phones, like Samsung. I expect to see a Samsung phone with inReach capabilities before the end of this year.
While the smartphone may not be ideal for tracking (it radiates out of the back side, which then should point to the sky).
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Gesendet:?Samstag, 25. Februar 2023 um 20:26 Uhr
Von:?"Carl Joplin" <c.joplin@...>
An:[email protected]
Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Based on the link at the bottom of this page to Globalstar, it appears an SOS on the new device will connect to the same service as Spot devices.
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Re: Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Hi Ravi
Please keep us posted.
On Sun, 26 Feb 2023 at 03:15, ravi_jmt2013 < ravi@...> wrote: The device does appear to have a dedicated SOS button meaning that in an emergency it can be used without connectivity to a cell phone. To me, this feature is very important for several reasons. Most importantly, the device itself can be triggered without navigating a touch screen, which can be difficult to do in cold and wet weather with gloved hands. In the event of a fall or other emergency, having the device right on my shoulder strap makes it more likely that I'll be able to trigger an SOS. Also, having used touch screens in cold and wet weather, I wouldn't want to have to go through that process in a true emergency.
I have an older InReach which has a screen and can be used without connecting to a phone (which is how I use it to send messages), but it is relatively bulky and expensive so I do not keep it active normally, only when I go to the Sierra Nevada. For hikes on the Appalachian Trail that are more local, I just carry a cell phone and connectivity is spotty when not on ridges with sightline to populated areas. If a $99 device costing $5/month really works, I would be willing to just keep it active year round offering some additional protection. I'll wait and see what initial reviews in the field have to say.
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Re: Motorola Defy Satellite Link
The device does appear to have a dedicated SOS button meaning that in an emergency it can be used without connectivity to a cell phone. To me, this feature is very important for several reasons. Most importantly, the device itself can be triggered without navigating a touch screen, which can be difficult to do in cold and wet weather with gloved hands. In the event of a fall or other emergency, having the device right on my shoulder strap makes it more likely that I'll be able to trigger an SOS. Also, having used touch screens in cold and wet weather, I wouldn't want to have to go through that process in a true emergency.
I have an older InReach which has a screen and can be used without connecting to a phone (which is how I use it to send messages), but it is relatively bulky and expensive so I do not keep it active normally, only when I go to the Sierra Nevada. For hikes on the Appalachian Trail that are more local, I just carry a cell phone and connectivity is spotty when not on ridges with sightline to populated areas. If a $99 device costing $5/month really works, I would be willing to just keep it active year round offering some additional protection. I'll wait and see what initial reviews in the field have to say.
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Re: Motorola Defy Satellite Link
Based on the link at the bottom of this page to Globalstar, it appears an SOS on the new device will connect to the same service as Spot devices. | |
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Rick A.
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