Re: Good resource for PCT section hike
Quick update - Casey Cox confirmed that Sonora Pass Resupply is permanently closed, and another resupply outfitter - Zero Day Resupply - is also likely to be permanently closed. Think both these happened during COVID.?
So, hitch to KM north is the closest resupply option. Or Casey said that twice-daily shuttles were running between the pass and KM last year but not sure if that will continue this year.
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On 24 Jan 2022, at 8:44 am, Henning Rech <whrech@...> wrote:
? >?There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you.
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Didn't they close down after 2019? - their web site is gone.
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Not sure if you are on FB, but there are PCT groups there for every year, similar to the JMT groups. There’s even a specific group for “Sierra North PCT Section Hikers”. I’m not aware of a forum like this one for the PCT, but it may exist.
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There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you. I know Casey is active on some of the FB groups and you can just google and find the business details. There is otherwise no amenities at Sonora Pass (other than a sign) - the closest resupply would be a hitch to Kennedy Meadows north.
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If you do that stretch, there’s a nice deviation from the PCT between TM and Sonora Pass; a more scenic and interesting route via Tilden and Mary Lakes that bypasses the traditionally buggy Jack Main Canyon portion of the PCT.
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On 24 Jan 2022, at 7:32 am, WanderingJim <jimjmt2020@...> wrote:
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?So, my 'big' plan for this year is doing some hiking in the Japan Alps. But I always like to have backup plans. And since I can't be sure I'll even be able to fly into Japan this year, those backup plans are more likely to be used this year.
Northbound JMT hike is possible (still have to see if I can get a permit in the lottery from Whitney Portal), but I also got a permit from Tuolumne Meadows Glen Aluin pass-through for the July 4th week.
The primary plan would be to follow the PCT up to Wilma Lake, then loop down to Hetch Hetchy and then to White wolf.
But I have thought that I could also head north from Wilma and turn it into a PCT section hike maybe as far as highway I-80.
Sonora Pass and Carson Pass seem to be the best resupply points, so any info on them would be appreciated. As would a good recommendation for a PCT forum that may be a good resource.
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Re: Good resource for PCT section hike
You may be right Henning - just saw a post about them not operating in 2020 and selling out their stock. I sent Casey a DM to clarify.
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On 24 Jan 2022, at 8:44 am, Henning Rech <whrech@...> wrote:
? >?There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you.
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Didn't they close down after 2019? - their web site is gone.
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Henning
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Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Good resource for PCT section hike
Not sure if you are on FB, but there are PCT groups there for every year, similar to the JMT groups. There’s even a specific group for “Sierra North PCT Section Hikers”. I’m not aware of a forum like this one for the PCT, but it may exist.
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There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you. I know Casey is active on some of the FB groups and you can just google and find the business details. There is otherwise no amenities at Sonora Pass (other than a sign) - the closest resupply would be a hitch to Kennedy Meadows north.
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If you do that stretch, there’s a nice deviation from the PCT between TM and Sonora Pass; a more scenic and interesting route via Tilden and Mary Lakes that bypasses the traditionally buggy Jack Main Canyon portion of the PCT.
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On 24 Jan 2022, at 7:32 am, WanderingJim <jimjmt2020@...> wrote:
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?So, my 'big' plan for this year is doing some hiking in the Japan Alps. But I always like to have backup plans. And since I can't be sure I'll even be able to fly into Japan this year, those backup plans are more likely to be used this year.
Northbound JMT hike is possible (still have to see if I can get a permit in the lottery from Whitney Portal), but I also got a permit from Tuolumne Meadows Glen Aluin pass-through for the July 4th week.
The primary plan would be to follow the PCT up to Wilma Lake, then loop down to Hetch Hetchy and then to White wolf.
But I have thought that I could also head north from Wilma and turn it into a PCT section hike maybe as far as highway I-80.
Sonora Pass and Carson Pass seem to be the best resupply points, so any info on them would be appreciated. As would a good recommendation for a PCT forum that may be a good resource.
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Re: Good resource for PCT section hike
>?There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you.
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Didn't they close down after 2019? - their web site is gone.
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Henning
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Gesendet:?Sonntag, 23. Januar 2022 um 22:22 Uhr
Von:?"Lange Jorstad via groups.io" <langejorstad@...>
An:[email protected]
Betreff:?Re: [JMT-groups.io] Good resource for PCT section hike
Not sure if you are on FB, but there are PCT groups there for every year, similar to the JMT groups. There’s even a specific group for “Sierra North PCT Section Hikers”. I’m not aware of a forum like this one for the PCT, but it may exist.
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There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you. I know Casey is active on some of the FB groups and you can just google and find the business details. There is otherwise no amenities at Sonora Pass (other than a sign) - the closest resupply would be a hitch to Kennedy Meadows north.
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If you do that stretch, there’s a nice deviation from the PCT between TM and Sonora Pass; a more scenic and interesting route via Tilden and Mary Lakes that bypasses the traditionally buggy Jack Main Canyon portion of the PCT.
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On 24 Jan 2022, at 7:32 am, WanderingJim <jimjmt2020@...> wrote:
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?So, my 'big' plan for this year is doing some hiking in the Japan Alps. But I always like to have backup plans. And since I can't be sure I'll even be able to fly into Japan this year, those backup plans are more likely to be used this year.
Northbound JMT hike is possible (still have to see if I can get a permit in the lottery from Whitney Portal), but I also got a permit from Tuolumne Meadows Glen Aluin pass-through for the July 4th week.
The primary plan would be to follow the PCT up to Wilma Lake, then loop down to Hetch Hetchy and then to White wolf.
But I have thought that I could also head north from Wilma and turn it into a PCT section hike maybe as far as highway I-80.
Sonora Pass and Carson Pass seem to be the best resupply points, so any info on them would be appreciated. As would a good recommendation for a PCT forum that may be a good resource.
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Re: Good resource for PCT section hike
Not sure if you are on FB, but there are PCT groups there for every year, similar to the JMT groups. There’s even a specific group for “Sierra North PCT Section Hikers”. I’m not aware of a forum like this one for the PCT, but it may exist.
There is a business called “Sonora Pass Resupply” run by Casey Cox that could probably help you. I know Casey is active on some of the FB groups and you can just google and find the business details. There is otherwise no amenities at Sonora Pass (other than a sign) - the closest resupply would be a hitch to Kennedy Meadows north.
If you do that stretch, there’s a nice deviation from the PCT between TM and Sonora Pass; a more scenic and interesting route via Tilden and Mary Lakes that bypasses the traditionally buggy Jack Main Canyon portion of the PCT.
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On 24 Jan 2022, at 7:32 am, WanderingJim <jimjmt2020@...> wrote:
?So, my 'big' plan for this year is doing some hiking in the Japan Alps. But I always like to have backup plans. And since I can't be sure I'll even be able to fly into Japan this year, those backup plans are more likely to be used this year.
Northbound JMT hike is possible (still have to see if I can get a permit in the lottery from Whitney Portal), but I also got a permit from Tuolumne Meadows Glen Aluin pass-through for the July 4th week.
The primary plan would be to follow the PCT up to Wilma Lake, then loop down to Hetch Hetchy and then to White wolf.
But I have thought that I could also head north from Wilma and turn it into a PCT section hike maybe as far as highway I-80.
Sonora Pass and Carson Pass seem to be the best resupply points, so any info on them would be appreciated. As would a good recommendation for a PCT forum that may be a good resource.
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Re: Good resource for PCT section hike
Sonora Pass is a good resupply point. From the pass, you have two options. Either hitch west on highway 108 to Kennedy Meadow North and resupply there. Optionally, you can hitch to the east then north on 395 to Bridgeport. First option is best. South Lake Tahoe via highway 50 is a better option than Carson Pass for resupply. If you didn’t want to go into town you may be able to resupply at Echo Lake Chalet. Not sure if they are accepting packages since I heard that the post office there has closed?? If you time it right, there is usually trail magic on Ebbetts and Carson Passes. Great stretch of trail.
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Good resource for PCT section hike
So, my 'big' plan for this year is doing some hiking in the Japan Alps. But I always like to have backup plans. And since I can't be sure I'll even be able to fly into Japan this year, those backup plans are more likely to be used this year.
Northbound JMT hike is possible (still have to see if I can get a permit in the lottery from Whitney Portal), but I also got a permit from Tuolumne Meadows Glen Aluin pass-through for the July 4th week.
The primary plan would be to follow the PCT up to Wilma Lake, then loop down to Hetch Hetchy and then to White wolf.
But I have thought that I could also head north from Wilma and turn it into a PCT section hike maybe as far as highway I-80.
Sonora Pass and Carson Pass seem to be the best resupply points, so any info on them would be appreciated. As would a good recommendation for a PCT forum that may be a good resource.
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
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TM Food lockers should be available. The TM Lodge will be open so that parking lot, the one at the Wilderness Center should be open, others as well. The store and PO *may* operate on a limited basis, perhaps out of temporary quarters at the lodge. I believe the "stables" road by Lembert Dome may be closed as I think that whole area will be under construction. However, It's only January and there are a lot of moving parts with all the construction projects, loss of parking at TM and the Valley, the Glacier Point Road project/closure, Covid, and ongoing staffing issues. We've already seen some flip-flopping in decision-making so I'm kind of considering all or most messaging to be tentative at this point and they should have things firmed up later in the spring. I can report on what they are currently considering or think they have decided but I strongly recommend checking back a month or so before your hike.?
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
TM Food lockers should be available. The TM Lodge will be open so that parking lot, the one at the Wilderness Center should be open, others as well. The store and PO *may* operate on a limited basis, perhaps out of temporary quarters at the lodge. I believe the "stables" road by Lembert Dome may be closed as I think that whole area will be under construction. However, It's only January and there are a lot of moving parts with all the construction projects, loss of parking at TM and the Valley, the Glacier Point Road project/closure, Covid, and ongoing staffing issues. We've already seen some flip-flopping in decision-making so I'm kind of considering all or most messaging to be tentative at this point and they should have things firmed up later in the spring. I can report on what they are currently considering or think they have decided but I strongly recommend checking back a month or so before your hike.?
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
Anand Kumar Sankaran : Was wondering about same thing. There were boxes in proximity of Dog lake day parking lot. Along that long road - is that Stables rd ? Where you were allowed to have long term parking too. Karina Bezkrovnaia
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On Jan 20, 2022, at 08:10, Anand Kumar Sankaran <anand.sankaran@...> wrote:
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Would the bear boxes at Tuolumne Meadows be open? On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Karina Bezkrovnaia via groups.io <kbezkrovnaia@...> wrote:
? Thank you , Inga! Karina Bezkrovnaia On Jan 20, 2022, at 07:53, Sam Molinari <sammolinari@...> wrote:
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Inga: will the lot by the lodge be open? ?Thanks.
On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Inga <ingasadventures@...> wrote:
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Lembert Dome and Soda Spring Rd parking will be closed.?
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
Hi Inga?
Would the bear boxes at Tuolumne Meadows be open?
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On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:03 AM, Karina Bezkrovnaia via groups.io <kbezkrovnaia@...> wrote:
? Thank you , Inga! Karina Bezkrovnaia On Jan 20, 2022, at 07:53, Sam Molinari <sammolinari@...> wrote:
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Inga: will the lot by the lodge be open? ?Thanks.
On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Inga <ingasadventures@...> wrote:
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Lembert Dome and Soda Spring Rd parking will be closed.?
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
Thank you , Inga! Karina Bezkrovnaia
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On Jan 20, 2022, at 07:53, Sam Molinari <sammolinari@...> wrote:
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Inga: will the lot by the lodge be open? ?Thanks.
On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Inga <ingasadventures@...> wrote:
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Lembert Dome and Soda Spring Rd parking will be closed.?
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
Inga: will the lot by the lodge be open? ?Thanks.
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On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Inga <ingasadventures@...> wrote:
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Lembert Dome and Soda Spring Rd parking will be closed.?
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Re: Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
Lembert Dome and Soda Spring Rd parking will be closed.? Inga
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Lembert Dome parking area and bear boxes
Hello all,
Do we have an info on Lembert dome long term parking situation and bear boxes?
We used to park there instead of all other options when hiking out of Lyell or Rafferty.
Is that area to be affected by major TM overhaul ?
Thank you ?
Karina Bezkrovnaia
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Re: Thoughts on Snow Pack for mid-July to Mid Aug hike
I did the same trip mid augest. 2017. ?Crossing and snow was mostly gone by then. ? I would have been VERY uncomfortable earlier. ?Whenever you go fitness is most important!
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On Jan 13, 2022, at 11:01, Dan Goldfield via groups.io <datadan_1@...> wrote:
?Hi Sam,
I hiked NOBO from Horseshoe meadows in the record snow year of 2017.? ?End June - Mid July.
Some advice:? ?1) Get fit.? ?2) There was a ton of bugs.? They really kept me moving and prevented me from stopping more. 3) Prepare for snow.? ?The muir pass had ~6-8 miles of snow.? All major passes required ascents and traverses through snow trails made by early PCT hikers (who were much more adventurous and bold.? ?I took cramp ons and a snow axe and was very lucky I took both 4) River crossing were no joke.? ?South Fork Kings was the hardest, evolution upstream crossing was slow moving but up to my neck, bear creek was fast, but shallow and there was a tree down which made it easier.? There were several others (if you want them dm me and I'll check my notes), that were tricky but doable.? Many campsites were taken, were flooded, or were closed.....so don't plan on that particular site you always wanted....you'll get what you get and may have to walk a few extra miles to find one.? ? ?5) I overestimated my ability and underestimated the trail, don't make this mistake.? Be honest with yourself about safety and what you can do.? ?Dumb luck and fitness was the only reason I survived.? (I had a bad knee, and went slow, but I have strong endurance).? ?
Good luck!
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Re: Thoughts on Snow Pack for mid-July to Mid Aug hike
Hi Sam,
I hiked NOBO from Horseshoe meadows in the record snow year of 2017.? ?End June - Mid July.
Some advice:? ?1) Get fit.? ?2) There was a ton of bugs.? They really kept me moving and prevented me from stopping more. 3) Prepare for snow.? ?The muir pass had ~6-8 miles of snow.? All major passes required ascents and traverses through snow trails made by early PCT hikers (who were much more adventurous and bold.? ?I took cramp ons and a snow axe and was very lucky I took both 4) River crossing were no joke.? ?South Fork Kings was the hardest, evolution upstream crossing was slow moving but up to my neck, bear creek was fast, but shallow and there was a tree down which made it easier.? There were several others (if you want them dm me and I'll check my notes), that were tricky but doable.? Many campsites were taken, were flooded, or were closed.....so don't plan on that particular site you always wanted....you'll get what you get and may have to walk a few extra miles to find one.? ? ?5) I overestimated my ability and underestimated the trail, don't make this mistake.? Be honest with yourself about safety and what you can do.? ?Dumb luck and fitness was the only reason I survived.? (I had a bad knee, and went slow, but I have strong endurance).? ?
Good luck!
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Re: Resupply and rest day in Independence at Mt. Williamson Motel
#Resupply
John, thanks for your help. We have contacted the Mt. Willimason Motel and will spend a night there with Resupply.
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Re: Resupply and rest day in Independence at Mt. Williamson Motel
#Resupply
Dieter...I can say from personal experience in 2021 that the Mt. Williamson Hotel and Basecamp was excellent in everyway. It is truly a hiker family run operation and we thoroughly enjoyed every moment...from the pick-up at the Onion Valley Trailhead by the legendary Lone Pine Kurt, to the clean clothes loaned to us whilst the laundry was being done, to the complementary cold beverage upon arrival.? Lauralyn and her family are doing it right.? The message from Inyo NF, while initially a bit confusing, was later clarified that a reasonable exit of 24 hours to resupply was perfectly ok.
JP
Our journey:? https://youtu.be/7TsuffYwLL0
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Re: Thoughts on Snow Pack for mid-July to Mid Aug hike
As others have noted, it is indeed too early to tell. But if it remains an above-normal snow season, the trail will present an array of challenges (and some benefits too) that hikers should prepare for. I wrote about these factors after a late July 2017 South Lake to North Lake trek. You can see Wanda Lake and Evolution Basin looking rather wintry in the middle of summer!?
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Re: Thoughts on Snow Pack for mid-July to Mid Aug hike
Being from New England, winter hiking meant learning to navigate trails with ice and snow, including proper use of an ice axe and the ability to self arrest.? Even with experience, snow travel can be physically demanding and tiring.? To
anyone who is planning either a PCT or JMT hike this year in early summer, I strongly suggest getting some experience on traveling on snow including self arrest technique. There are guides in Lone Pine, Bishop and Mammoth that can provide such experience.
Snow travel can be a unique and fun experience but you need to know before you go. ??
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From: Curt Kinchen
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 5:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Thoughts on Snow Pack for mid-July to Mid Aug hike
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I hiked the JMT in mid to the end of August in 2017 and the mosquitos were pretty much everywhere, but I only found them to be bothersome during the day a couple of places.? It was more what you would expect, around dusk and in places near
water.? I'm guessing it was typical of a month or 45 days earlier in an average(there is no normal in CA) snow year.
I will say that I'm glad I did it when I did as the scenery was simply spectacular and by that time the snow covered passes were easily manageable, with well defined routes.? I gained some snow hiking experience and confidence, without
the risks and difficulty of hiking it a month earlier.
I happened to talk to a couple in Lone Pine at the bus stop a couple of days prior to my start and they were just off the trail.? They looked tired as you might expect, but in addition they didn't look happy.? Perhaps they were just exhausted,
buy they didn't seem to have enjoyed the experience.? ?I can't say if it was all due to the conditions, but I recall them mentioning that as an issue for them.
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Realize that January has been somewhat of a slow start given the amount of snow in December.? Just remember that in 2018/ 2019, the year of Snowzilla, we had a great start in November
but no real additional snow until the end of January and then didn’t stop until late April.? No one has been able to predict with certainty in January the snow totals for February and March.
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Yes, now was somewhat crazy back in December, but January has been dry and no major rain/snow event is in sight. We are down to just ~20% over average and drop fast.
Follow along here:?
I do wish we’d have another high snow year though, we need the water + high snow Sierra hikes are epic!
Happy Trails
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