Thank you all so much for the suggestions. I shall enter them all into the thinking box and make my plans accordingly. Lots of good advice showing there are many ways to enjoy backpacking the great wildernesses this country has to offer - although so far the Sierras are my favourite.:-)
It maybe next year though before I can organise a trip though - or possibly later in the year; this year starting in May I will be in the UK cycling 1,000 miles from one end to the other.
Thanks again.
Ken.
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There are a bunch of sites that do this online, you will just want to pick one that doesn't require people to make an account
Or you could just give us a list of the gear you lost as a starting point! ? aaron.ximm@...? ? ? 83% happy ?? 9% disgusted ?? 6% fearful ?? 2% angry
Thanks for your suggestions! There are some things that have worked well for me that I'd like to get again, and other things (like the sleeping bag) that I'm open to other options.? What is the best way to list these things for you all?? If I use the app you suggested, how can the group see it?
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If you are flexible I have found that the permits are easier to
get during the Yosemite week-ahead and Inyo 2 week-ahead release
periods.
Here are some ideas if you want to look at areas outside the high
Sierra:
The PCTA has a map of the areas along the PCT that require
permits. You can select an area with trailhead issued permits or
no permits. Northern Washington is my favorite after the Sierra.
Most areas are self-issue but there is a small section near
Stehekin that has a quota.
I believe you can get a no quota permit from the Lake Tahoe Basin
Management Unit for hikes south of Desolation Wilderness (hwy 50)
to Tuolumne Meadows, about 150 miles. Lower than the Sierra but I
enjoyed it. Yosemite only accepts their permit or a PCTA long
distance permit to go south of Tuolumne over Donohue Pass.
The Colorado Trail has trailhead self issue permits for
wilderness areas. San Juan National Forest has no permits.
Silverton to Durango along the trail is about 75 miles. You could
add a hike to the east from Silverton to make it 100 miles.
Frank
On 2/6/2025 3:23 PM, kenjessett via
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Long time member of the former yahoo group and have hiked the
JMT a number of times, and considering the ongoing difficulties
with securing permits, does anyone have a suggestion of a trail
about 100 miles that is similar in terrain and altitude to the
JMT that does not require permits?
I'm of a mind to hike in the Sierras again - it's been a few
years - and want to try to avoid the hassle of fighting for the
few permits that do come available.
If this is not an appropriate forum to post this, I don't
mind being told so. Peace and love and all that.
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Thanks.
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Ken J.
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Sierra National Forest permits for the JMT are still quite easy to get. This would be trailheads at VVR/Lake Edison or MTR/Florence Lake. Not sure of the mileage, but if you go northbound and end at Happy Ilse, you can get back to your starting point via YARTS and Sierra Shuttle. Not cheap but very workable.
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On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 07:11 PM, Carl Joplin wrote:
The Trinity Alps Wilderness near the Oregon border is Sierra-like and has self-issuing permits at kiosks.
Just to the east of the Trinities, PCT Section P from Castle Crags to Etna Summit is just under 100 miles and I've seen it written up as an interesting individual through-hike section.? At least Kauffmann's Conifer Country speaks positively of it . ? Scenery mixes Sierra-like granite terrain with red-rock geology (peridotite, serpentinite, and other mafic rocks).? My experience up there is limited -- I have more in the Trinities -- but I'm thinking this will be a good year to spend time exploring the Klamath Range since they are getting plenty of precip this winter while the southern Sierra is not.? No permit issues.? I'm personally not a through hiker, but I am looking at maybe two different loop trips or in-or-outs in the Klamath Range somewhere in June / July.?
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Thanks for your suggestions! There are some things that have worked well for me that I'd like to get again, and other things (like the sleeping bag) that I'm open to other options. ?What is the best way to list these things for you all? ?If I use the app you suggested, how can the group see it?
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The Trinity Alps Wilderness near the Oregon border is Sierra-like and has self-issuing permits at kiosks.
The Big SEKI Loop is 155 miles but there are shorter variations. You can start at less-busy SEKI trailheads and easily get a permit.
Non-weekend permits are usually available for most Sierra National Forest trailheads.
Sequoia National Forest has several wilderness areas without permits. But it would be challenging to do 100 miles without entering SEKI. Golden Trout Wilderness permits are not in high demand and allow entrance into SEKI. They are obtained from Sequoia National Forest, not rec.gov.
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KEN:
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Every place that fits your criteria of similarity requires permits, but that should not dissuade you. Many of the trailheads that lead to the area you describe - including the entire JMT - are perfectly easy to obtain.? I take great pleasure in assisting those who like you are interested in the quality of the are and the experience rather than the abstraction of doing THE trail.? I am glad to help and will email you shortly.
Peter
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Ken,
All trails in the High Sierra that I am aware of require overnight wilderness permits. The question is, which are easy to get or have no quota.
If your goal is to re-hike the JMT, you can obtain a last minute permit from a no-quota trailhead like Kennedy Meadows South (or others) and go north from there. The downside is that all of these trailheads add significant miles to a JMT trip (for example an extra 50 miles from KMS) and many (like KMS) take you through high desert where water may become an issue.
If you want to discover new terrain in the High Sierra, I would just look at a map and make your own trail. Any route that is not well tread should have permit availability! Some of the best trips I've done have been on less-well-trod routes.
If you are up for some adventure with a tad of route finding where the old trails have vanished in some spots, check out the Theodore Solomons Trail group on Facebook for a route that parallels the JMT along the West Side:
Cheers!
Ethan
"When you see a new trail, or a footprint you do not know, follow it to the point of knowing."? - Uncheedah
On Thu, Feb 6, 2025 at 5:11?PM Tom Kennefick via <tomkennefick= [email protected]> wrote: 1. North Cascades Wa ?There are multiple excellent options. 2. Goat Rocks Wa Shorter but fantastic.? 3.? Wonderland trail Mt Ranier NP 4. Pct South Lake Tahoe south to Yosemite NP 5. Pct North Kennedy meadows south ?to wherever you like All of these options except Wonderland trail are non quota trails ? Hi,
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Long time member of the former yahoo group and have hiked the JMT a number of times, and considering the ongoing difficulties with securing permits, does anyone have a suggestion of a trail about 100 miles that is similar in terrain and altitude to the JMT that does not require permits?
I'm of a mind to hike in the Sierras again - it's been a few years - and want to try to avoid the hassle of fighting for the few permits that do come available.
If this is not an appropriate forum to post this, I don't mind being told so. Peace and love and all that.
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Thanks.
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Ken J.
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1. North Cascades Wa ?There are multiple excellent options. 2. Goat Rocks Wa Shorter but fantastic.? 3. ?Wonderland trail Mt Ranier NP 4. Pct South Lake Tahoe south to Yosemite NP 5. Pct North Kennedy meadows south ?to wherever you like All of these options except Wonderland trail are non quota trails
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On Feb 6, 2025, at 4:55?PM, kenjessett via groups.io <kenjessett@...> wrote:
? Hi,
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Long time member of the former yahoo group and have hiked the JMT a number of times, and considering the ongoing difficulties with securing permits, does anyone have a suggestion of a trail about 100 miles that is similar in terrain and altitude to the JMT that does not require permits?
I'm of a mind to hike in the Sierras again - it's been a few years - and want to try to avoid the hassle of fighting for the few permits that do come available.
If this is not an appropriate forum to post this, I don't mind being told so. Peace and love and all that.
?
Thanks.
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Ken J.
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Hi,
?
Long time member of the former yahoo group and have hiked the JMT a number of times, and considering the ongoing difficulties with securing permits, does anyone have a suggestion of a trail about 100 miles that is similar in terrain and altitude to the JMT that does not require permits?
I'm of a mind to hike in the Sierras again - it's been a few years - and want to try to avoid the hassle of fighting for the few permits that do come available.
If this is not an appropriate forum to post this, I don't mind being told so. Peace and love and all that.
?
Thanks.
?
Ken J.
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I am so sorry you’ve lost everything. My heart breaks for you and your community. I live in the Central Valley, and may have a few things.?
I also have a PCT start date in April!?
I wanted to reach out to this group, as I’ve lost all my ultralight backpacking gear when my home burned down in the recent Eaton Canyon Fire here in Altadena, CA.? I am hoping to return to backpacking this year (I have a start date for the PCT in April).? If you have any ideas for donations, discounts and used gear I’d really appreciate it.? I’ve learned so much from the group and look forward to any help you can offer.? Best, Leslie Frank
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Hi Leslie,
So sorry, that is terrible!!!
What all are you looking for? Might be useful: my kids use these apps for "gift tracking" around holidays, they add links to things and they can be marked "taken"...
Partly wondering where you are atm between "anything workable" and "hoping to replace specific kit I know works well for me" :)
Best regards,
Aaron
Thru-r has $1000 grants?for long-distance thru-hikes (over 200 miles) that they are offering which can be applied to gear:
Ethan
"When you see a new trail, or a footprint you do not know, follow it to the point of knowing."? - Uncheedah
I wanted to reach out to this group, as I’ve lost all my ultralight backpacking gear when my home burned down in the recent Eaton Canyon Fire here in Altadena, CA.? I am hoping to return to backpacking this year (I have a start date for the PCT in April).? If you have any ideas for donations, discounts and used gear I’d really appreciate it.? I’ve learned so much from the group and look forward to any help you can offer.? Best, Leslie Frank
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Thru-r has $1000 grants?for long-distance thru-hikes (over 200 miles) that they are offering which can be applied to gear:
Ethan
"When you see a new trail, or a footprint you do not know, follow it to the point of knowing."? - Uncheedah
I wanted to reach out to this group, as I’ve lost all my ultralight backpacking gear when my home burned down in the recent Eaton Canyon Fire here in Altadena, CA.? I am hoping to return to backpacking this year (I have a start date for the PCT in April).? If you have any ideas for donations, discounts and used gear I’d really appreciate it.? I’ve learned so much from the group and look forward to any help you can offer.? Best, Leslie Frank
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I wanted to reach out to this group, as I’ve lost all my ultralight backpacking gear when my home burned down in the recent Eaton Canyon Fire here in Altadena, CA. ?I am hoping to return to backpacking this year (I have a start date for the PCT in April).? If you have any ideas for donations, discounts and used gear I’d really appreciate it.? I’ve learned so much from the group and look forward to any help you can offer.? Best, Leslie Frank
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I'm currently happy with this charger I bought in 2023.?? Holding up well.? Using it to charge Nitecore battery.
Sue Dodds
Cell?? :? 412-303-3712 Home: 412-963-7319
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I've used two versions of the "ECEEN" "brand", including the 10W version of this:?
and they've worked liked champs for years. 90-100 days service in the backcountry I'd wager?
The 13W being on sale for half price is attractive enough I might just upgrade...?
aaron
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non-branded item, sold via ebay or aliexpress by numerous sellers
10 W is nonsense, but 4.5 W under good sun illumination. Below 4 oz for the panel itself.
There is also a slightly smaller version of it without the handle.
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Henning
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Can somebody please link to such a solar panel (4-6W, sub-8oz), one that can actually be purchased? Looks like Solarpad never went past the initial funding stage, though it would be nice to find out that I'm mistaken.
Thank you
Steven
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non-branded item, sold via ebay or aliexpress by numerous sellers
10 W is nonsense, but 4.5 W under good sun illumination. Below 4 oz for the panel itself.
There is also a slightly smaller version of it without the handle.
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Henning
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Januar 2025 um 17:17
Von: "hike via groups.io" <hike@...>
Betreff: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Solar Charger
Can somebody please link to such a solar panel (4-6W, sub-8oz), one that can actually be purchased? Looks like Solarpad never went past the initial funding stage, though it would be nice to find out that I'm mistaken.
Thank you
Steven
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Can somebody please link to such a solar panel (4-6W, sub-8oz), one that can actually be purchased? Looks like Solarpad never went past the initial funding stage, though it would be nice to find out that I'm mistaken.
Thank you
Steven
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If really weights 8 oz it is a bit on the heavy side. You can get 4.5 W out of a <4 oz panel.
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Otherwise I fully agree, I walked last year from Campo to South Lake Tahoe with a similar setup, then swapped it for a bigger battery because of more trees and lower sun.
Henning
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Gesendet: Montag, 27. Januar 2025 um 16:15
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FWIW - I used this last year:
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And it worked much better than I expected. The carabiners were useless, but I used a little cordage to tie loops in the panel's eyelets and then ran my backpacks top strap through the loops to secure it. I was hiking NOBO, and I had the panel plugged into my Nitecore battery. I never had to charge the battery anywhere other than the panel the whole trip.?
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Jim Ringland
Sue Dodds
Henning Rech