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Camped June 10th at Backpacker's campground. Very warm. Place got full by day end.?
Camped June 11th past LYV close to a creek near where Cloud's Rest trail branches off from JMT. Most of the traffic past LYV was day hikers to Cloud's Rest or Half Some. No sign of any snow so far. Our camping area had just us two backpackers and another group of 2. Lots of mosquitos.?
Camped June 12th past Cloud's Rest and about half mile past Forsyth Trail junction. We were the only ones there. Serious mosquito infested but lots of water and very nice peaceful forest ambiance. There was no snow towards Cloud's Rest and almost none on the ledge. Little snow after that here and there requiring no equipment except treking poles.?
Camped June 13th at Sunrise camp. There were some other campers but not crowded. Serious mosquito infestation. Little to no snow, on the way. Look for a a beautiful stream between after the lake and well before sunrise. It is like a sheet of waterfall at a 30?degree angle. Enjoyed sitting in it and getting wet. This was brilliant.?
Headed back on 14th to LYV via JMT. Six or so tricky fallen tree crossings on this, trail in the mostly burnt forest below Cloud's Rest. Great views and beautiful streams.?
Camped 15th at LYV. Crowded but okay. Lots of most vicious evening time mosquitos. Jumping in Merced River at LYV priceless.?
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Re: Help planning JMT section hike logistics
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Help planning JMT section hike logistics
Hi All,
I'm planning my 3rd section of the North to South JMT over July 4th weekend. I last exited at Mono Pass/Mosquito Flats coming up through the recesses. As I'm planning that as the entry and my exist as Pine Creek, I'm seeing that I'm hiking 58 miles to do 23 miles of the JMT. While doable in four days, it may not be the most enjoyable. Here's the route for reference:
As an alternative, I was thinking an approach and exit via the west side might work, but I'm not as familiar with that side.
I'd appreciate some info on the ability to hitch a ride or get some sort of transportation from the South side of Florence Lake back up to Thomas A Edison Lake or any other ideas.
Thanks in advance,
Tim
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Re: Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO
Note: ?once construction of the new bridge starts, the FS may limit or prohibit crossing in the bridge area.
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On Jun 15, 2024, at 5:09?PM, Half Dot via groups.io <half_dot@...> wrote:
?I wouldn't think going up versus down would make much difference since there is no actual climbing involved. Says the guy who has not done it.
Sounds like crossing the river is a little spooky at this point, but maybe by the time you get there it will have calmed down. I crossed last September without issue.
San Joaquin crossing:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68745971@N06/53209918557/in/album-72177720311426402/
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Re: Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO
I wouldn't think going up versus down would make much difference since there is no actual climbing involved. Says the guy who has not done it.
Sounds like crossing the river is a little spooky at this point, but maybe by the time you get there it will have calmed down. I crossed last September without issue.
San Joaquin crossing:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68745971@N06/53209918557/in/album-72177720311426402/
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Re: Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO
Thanks.? For completeness, what are people's thoughts on using Skurka's Over the Top route, but going southbound?
Thanks,
John
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I concur.? I did Bishop Pass to Kearsarge a couple of years ago and the section from Dusy Basin to the valley is awesome.? I'll be doing it in reverse this year coming from North Lake via Lamarck Col.? I'm not really looking forward to the climb out of
Le Conte canyon, but it's a short day for me so I'll be taking it easy.
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 10:51?AM Michael Mineart via
<mvmineart= [email protected]> wrote:
John,
The section of the trail coming back down from Bishop Pass to the JMT is a very nice section of trail and the last section that you are concerned about is a well graded trail and not steep.? I’ve been over Bishop pass a couple of times and find it one of the
most enjoyable sections of trail I have hiked in the Sierra’s and I really enjoy the views you have of Le Conte canyon as you climb up or come back down to the JMT.
Mike
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Re: Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO
I concur.? I did Bishop Pass to Kearsarge a couple of years ago and the section from Dusy Basin to the valley is awesome.? I'll be doing it in reverse this year coming from North Lake via Lamarck Col.? I'm not really looking forward to the climb out of Le Conte canyon, but it's a short day for me so I'll be taking it easy.
On Fri, Jun 14, 2024, 10:51?AM Michael Mineart via <mvmineart= [email protected]> wrote: John,
The section of the trail coming back down from Bishop Pass to the JMT is a very nice section of trail and the last section that you are concerned about is a well graded trail and not steep.? I’ve been over Bishop pass a couple of times and find it one of the most enjoyable sections of trail I have hiked in the Sierra’s and I really enjoy the views you have of Le Conte canyon as you climb up or come back down to the JMT.
Mike
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Re: Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO
John,
The section of the trail coming back down from Bishop Pass to the JMT is a very nice section of trail and the last section that you are concerned about is a well graded trail and not steep. I’ve been over Bishop pass a couple of times and find it one of the most enjoyable sections of trail I have hiked in the Sierra’s and I really enjoy the views you have of Le Conte canyon as you climb up or come back down to the JMT.
Mike
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Skurka’s Over the Top route SOBO
My niece and I are going SOBO starting from the Mono/Parker Pass TH 7/7. We have been monitoring the situation at the site of the bridge over the SF of the San Joaquin to determine if there's any chance of a water crossing - seems sketch - or
do we commit to the Piute->town of Bishop->Bishop Pass workaround. The choice has food resupply implications for our planning.?
We've seen FarOut comments from several NOBO PCTers that have successfully used this route.
?However, after examining the route on CalTopo, we are concerned about taking the ?route going southbound. In particular the descent back down to the trail seems fairly steep from 9800' to 9400'. Has anyone seen a report on using the route going
south?
Thanks
John
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Mule Pack Carry MTR to Selden Pass
I am planning to stay at MTR Sept 1-3 on my NOBO JMT hike.??
Is anyone interested in splitting a mule carry of their gear up to Selden Pass on either Sept 2 or 3?? The cost is $288 each for 2 people (I'm one of the people!).? I assume a mule can handle 2 packs but I'll make sure if anybody is interested.
Selden Pass is their limit for a 1-day trip.
Selden Pass is 3200' of climbing with full food, btw.
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Byron Nevins
Lead Moderator of JMT at groups.io
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If you're getting a new tent the?Zpacks Plex Solo is worth a look.? UNDER 14 oz.? 1 pound with? 0.2 oz. carbon fiber stakes.? I'm ordering one.? The weight difference is now enough to justify it.??
I have spent many many nights in my Zpacks Altraplex (22.4 oz) with no problems.? A great tent and it will be available for sale soon!
-- Byron NevinsLead Moderator of JMT at groups.io
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Thank you for the input. I’ve been looking into the zpack again. I’m a bit late for that maybe, they don’t have it in stock in Germany right now. Will look into delivery options
Generally I decided to ?start with a light tent for this time and see how it goes and adapt for the next long distance hikes :) I believe having some sort of imaginary protection from bugs etc will give me more peace of mind. I hear the leaves rustling anyway. So better start the day with a good sleep Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Am 13.06.2024 um 03:22 schrieb Jingbo Ni via groups.io <jnistargazer@...>:
? Yes, Zpack duplex has served me well for a few years, the trips include Capitol Reef NP (first use), two Grand Canyon trips, LCT, at least five Sierra trips like HST, Rae Lakes loop, Thousand Island Lake etc. The most challenging one was last year’s Alaska backpacking trip. We had only two hours of sunshine in our whole 6 day trip. One morning the wind blew so hard that one of the stake was pulled out of the ground violently and flew away, never to be seen again. But the tent still held up and kept me bone try!
It weighs only 1.5 pounds, stakes included.?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 17:09 Mike McCormick via <mike.mccormick= [email protected]> wrote: The Zpack duplex is absolutely durable. We have been using ours everywhere, including the Sierras. It held up well at Thousand Island Lake with 60 MPH gusts in a September snowstorm! It is pricey. The investment has worked for us.?
?I use a Tarptent double rainbow lithium.? With the inner liner, handles condensation pretty well. It is also free standing (which has helped me a few times).? I had a Tarptent stratosphire Li before this and it was not free standing (but had more space). The two times I have needed my tent repaired, Henry Shires repaired it for very little money and turned them around very quickly.
-- Anand Kumar Sankaran Next art show: Fremont Art and Wine Festival, Aug 3rd and 4th
I have the Zpacks Triplex and also absolutely love it. I got the Triplex because it is only a few ounces more than the Duplex and my hiking buddy and I really appreciate the extra room. It is by far and away one of the lightest tents I’ve ever owned.?
Depending on the weather conditions you might get some condensation on the inside wall. That will be true of any single wall tent. However, the way the Zpacks Triplex (and Duplex) are designed, the condensation should run down the inside wall and drip onto the mesh that holds up the “bathtub” floor. Goes right outside if the tent is erected correctly.?
I carry a small (~10in X 10in) chamois that I use to wipe down the tent inside and out if it’s wet before I roll it up. When the chamois dries it’s virtually weightless.?
Zpacks will tell you that this tent is considered good for about one AT thru hike.? I have carried this Triplex on an AT thru hike (2,000+ miles) and a JMT thru hike and it’s still in good shape. I’m pretty meticulous about drying it, folding it lengthwise along different lines, and then rolling it. I also use a piece of Tyvek under it which is some extra weight. However, the Tyvek comes in handy at lunch when you want to put something down to sit on.?
Now, the downside for me: ?This tent is absolutely not self standing. If you’re setting up on a rock surface or on a platform you will have to get creative with rocks and the shroud lines.?
Oh, if you get one, buy the little fabric cups that can be attached to the shroud lines at the head and the foot.? You can put your second set of hiking poles in these to raise the head and foot. This dramatically increases headroom in the tent.?
Steve (Walden)
On Jun 12, 2024, at 13:06, Ian Goldsmith <ian@...> wrote:
?I have a zPacks Duplex and love it.? Over 100 days in the mountains with it and it’s still in perfect condition.? Downsides are cost and if you camp somewhere wet, then the single wall structure will create a lot of condensation if you have to close the tent up fully.? I will get another one if for some reason this one gives up on me.
Ian On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Christine B. via <busschristine7= [email protected]> wrote:
yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>: Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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Yes, Zpack duplex has served me well for a few years, the trips include Capitol Reef NP (first use), two Grand Canyon trips, LCT, at least five Sierra trips like HST, Rae Lakes loop, Thousand Island Lake etc. The most challenging one was last year’s Alaska backpacking trip. We had only two hours of sunshine in our whole 6 day trip. One morning the wind blew so hard that one of the stake was pulled out of the ground violently and flew away, never to be seen again. But the tent still held up and kept me bone try!
It weighs only 1.5 pounds, stakes included.?
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 17:09 Mike McCormick via <mike.mccormick= [email protected]> wrote: The Zpack duplex is absolutely durable. We have been using ours everywhere, including the Sierras. It held up well at Thousand Island Lake with 60 MPH gusts in a September snowstorm! It is pricey. The investment has worked for us.?
?I use a Tarptent double rainbow lithium.? With the inner liner, handles condensation pretty well. It is also free standing (which has helped me a few times).? I had a Tarptent stratosphire Li before this and it was not free standing (but had more space). The two times I have needed my tent repaired, Henry Shires repaired it for very little money and turned them around very quickly.
-- Anand Kumar Sankaran Next art show: Fremont Art and Wine Festival, Aug 3rd and 4th
I have the Zpacks Triplex and also absolutely love it. I got the Triplex because it is only a few ounces more than the Duplex and my hiking buddy and I really appreciate the extra room. It is by far and away one of the lightest tents I’ve ever owned.?
Depending on the weather conditions you might get some condensation on the inside wall. That will be true of any single wall tent. However, the way the Zpacks Triplex (and Duplex) are designed, the condensation should run down the inside wall and drip onto the mesh that holds up the “bathtub” floor. Goes right outside if the tent is erected correctly.?
I carry a small (~10in X 10in) chamois that I use to wipe down the tent inside and out if it’s wet before I roll it up. When the chamois dries it’s virtually weightless.?
Zpacks will tell you that this tent is considered good for about one AT thru hike.? I have carried this Triplex on an AT thru hike (2,000+ miles) and a JMT thru hike and it’s still in good shape. I’m pretty meticulous about drying it, folding it lengthwise along different lines, and then rolling it. I also use a piece of Tyvek under it which is some extra weight. However, the Tyvek comes in handy at lunch when you want to put something down to sit on.?
Now, the downside for me: ?This tent is absolutely not self standing. If you’re setting up on a rock surface or on a platform you will have to get creative with rocks and the shroud lines.?
Oh, if you get one, buy the little fabric cups that can be attached to the shroud lines at the head and the foot.? You can put your second set of hiking poles in these to raise the head and foot. This dramatically increases headroom in the tent.?
Steve (Walden)
On Jun 12, 2024, at 13:06, Ian Goldsmith <ian@...> wrote:
?I have a zPacks Duplex and love it.? Over 100 days in the mountains with it and it’s still in perfect condition.? Downsides are cost and if you camp somewhere wet, then the single wall structure will create a lot of condensation if you have to close the tent up fully.? I will get another one if for some reason this one gives up on me.
Ian On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Christine B. via <busschristine7= [email protected]> wrote:
yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>: Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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The Zpack duplex is absolutely durable. We have been using ours everywhere, including the Sierras. It held up well at Thousand Island Lake with 60 MPH gusts in a September snowstorm! It is pricey. The investment has worked for us.?
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On Jun 12, 2024, at 11:59?AM, Anand Kumar Sankaran <anand.sankaran@...> wrote:
? I use a Tarptent double rainbow lithium. ?With the inner liner, handles condensation pretty well. It is also free standing (which has helped me a few times). ?I had a Tarptent stratosphire Li before this and it was not free standing (but had more space). The two times I have needed my tent repaired, Henry Shires repaired it for very little money and turned them around very quickly.
-- Anand Kumar Sankaran http://www.anands.net Next art show: Fremont Art and Wine Festival, Aug 3rd and 4th
On Jun 12, 2024, at 11:36?AM, Steve Perry via groups.io <perry240@...> wrote:
I have the Zpacks Triplex and also absolutely love it. I got the Triplex because it is only a few ounces more than the Duplex and my hiking buddy and I really appreciate the extra room. It is by far and away one of the lightest tents I’ve ever owned.?
Depending on the weather conditions you might get some condensation on the inside wall. That will be true of any single wall tent. However, the way the Zpacks Triplex (and Duplex) are designed, the condensation should run down the inside wall and drip onto the mesh that holds up the “bathtub” floor. Goes right outside if the tent is erected correctly.?
I carry a small (~10in X 10in) chamois that I use to wipe down the tent inside and out if it’s wet before I roll it up. When the chamois dries it’s virtually weightless.?
Zpacks will tell you that this tent is considered good for about one AT thru hike. ?I have carried this Triplex on an AT thru hike (2,000+ miles) and a JMT thru hike and it’s still in good shape. I’m pretty meticulous about drying it, folding it lengthwise along different lines, and then rolling it. I also use a piece of Tyvek under it which is some extra weight. However, the Tyvek comes in handy at lunch when you want to put something down to sit on.?
Now, the downside for me: ?This tent is absolutely not self standing. If you’re setting up on a rock surface or on a platform you will have to get creative with rocks and the shroud lines.?
Oh, if you get one, buy the little fabric cups that can be attached to the shroud lines at the head and the foot. ?You can put your second set of hiking poles in these to raise the head and foot. This dramatically increases headroom in the tent.?
Steve (Walden)
On Jun 12, 2024, at 13:06, Ian Goldsmith <ian@...> wrote:
? I have a zPacks Duplex and love it. ?Over 100 days in the mountains with it and it’s still in perfect condition. ?Downsides are cost and if you camp somewhere wet, then the single wall structure will create a lot of condensation if you have to close the tent up fully. ?I will get another one if for some reason this one gives up on me.
Ian On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Christine B. via groups.io <busschristine7@...> wrote:
yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>: Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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I use a Tarptent double rainbow lithium. ?With the inner liner, handles condensation pretty well. It is also free standing (which has helped me a few times). ?I had a Tarptent stratosphire Li before this and it was not free standing (but had more space). The two times I have needed my tent repaired, Henry Shires repaired it for very little money and turned them around very quickly.
-- Anand Kumar Sankaran http://www.anands.net Next art show: Fremont Art and Wine Festival, Aug 3rd and 4th
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On Jun 12, 2024, at 11:36?AM, Steve Perry via groups.io <perry240@...> wrote:
I have the Zpacks Triplex and also absolutely love it. I got the Triplex because it is only a few ounces more than the Duplex and my hiking buddy and I really appreciate the extra room. It is by far and away one of the lightest tents I’ve ever owned.?
Depending on the weather conditions you might get some condensation on the inside wall. That will be true of any single wall tent. However, the way the Zpacks Triplex (and Duplex) are designed, the condensation should run down the inside wall and drip onto the mesh that holds up the “bathtub” floor. Goes right outside if the tent is erected correctly.?
I carry a small (~10in X 10in) chamois that I use to wipe down the tent inside and out if it’s wet before I roll it up. When the chamois dries it’s virtually weightless.?
Zpacks will tell you that this tent is considered good for about one AT thru hike. ?I have carried this Triplex on an AT thru hike (2,000+ miles) and a JMT thru hike and it’s still in good shape. I’m pretty meticulous about drying it, folding it lengthwise along different lines, and then rolling it. I also use a piece of Tyvek under it which is some extra weight. However, the Tyvek comes in handy at lunch when you want to put something down to sit on.?
Now, the downside for me: ?This tent is absolutely not self standing. If you’re setting up on a rock surface or on a platform you will have to get creative with rocks and the shroud lines.?
Oh, if you get one, buy the little fabric cups that can be attached to the shroud lines at the head and the foot. ?You can put your second set of hiking poles in these to raise the head and foot. This dramatically increases headroom in the tent.?
Steve (Walden)
On Jun 12, 2024, at 13:06, Ian Goldsmith <ian@...> wrote:
? I have a zPacks Duplex and love it. ?Over 100 days in the mountains with it and it’s still in perfect condition. ?Downsides are cost and if you camp somewhere wet, then the single wall structure will create a lot of condensation if you have to close the tent up fully. ?I will get another one if for some reason this one gives up on me.
Ian On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Christine B. via groups.io <busschristine7@...> wrote:
yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>: Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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I have the Zpacks Triplex and also absolutely love it. I got the Triplex because it is only a few ounces more than the Duplex and my hiking buddy and I really appreciate the extra room. It is by far and away one of the lightest tents I’ve ever owned.?
Depending on the weather conditions you might get some condensation on the inside wall. That will be true of any single wall tent. However, the way the Zpacks Triplex (and Duplex) are designed, the condensation should run down the inside wall and drip onto the mesh that holds up the “bathtub” floor. Goes right outside if the tent is erected correctly.?
I carry a small (~10in X 10in) chamois that I use to wipe down the tent inside and out if it’s wet before I roll it up. When the chamois dries it’s virtually weightless.?
Zpacks will tell you that this tent is considered good for about one AT thru hike. ?I have carried this Triplex on an AT thru hike (2,000+ miles) and a JMT thru hike and it’s still in good shape. I’m pretty meticulous about drying it, folding it lengthwise along different lines, and then rolling it. I also use a piece of Tyvek under it which is some extra weight. However, the Tyvek comes in handy at lunch when you want to put something down to sit on.?
Now, the downside for me: ?This tent is absolutely not self standing. If you’re setting up on a rock surface or on a platform you will have to get creative with rocks and the shroud lines.?
Oh, if you get one, buy the little fabric cups that can be attached to the shroud lines at the head and the foot. ?You can put your second set of hiking poles in these to raise the head and foot. This dramatically increases headroom in the tent.?
Steve (Walden)
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On Jun 12, 2024, at 13:06, Ian Goldsmith <ian@...> wrote:
? I have a zPacks Duplex and love it. ?Over 100 days in the mountains with it and it’s still in perfect condition. ?Downsides are cost and if you camp somewhere wet, then the single wall structure will create a lot of condensation if you have to close the tent up fully. ?I will get another one if for some reason this one gives up on me.
Ian On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Christine B. via groups.io <busschristine7@...> wrote:
yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>: Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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I have a zPacks Duplex and love it. ?Over 100 days in the mountains with it and it’s still in perfect condition. ?Downsides are cost and if you camp somewhere wet, then the single wall structure will create a lot of condensation if you have to close the tent up fully. ?I will get another one if for some reason this one gives up on me.
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On Jun 12, 2024, at 9:57?AM, Christine B. via groups.io <busschristine7@...> wrote:
yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>: Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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yes, it's almost double the price. :)
Is the zpack really durable? I came across it several times but I wonder if it can without wild/heavy rain etc. Probalby nothing for patagonia etc and mainly for mild weather?? Thx Cristina
Am Mi., 12. Juni 2024 um 18:53?Uhr schrieb Christoph Wiegand via <forofofo= [email protected]>:
Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards? ? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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Hi Christine,?
I just came across your topic. If I was you having done the JMT a couple of times I would definitely go for a tent that is a Zpacks ?cuben fiber tent for instance the duplex of the triplex which is a fantastic weight to space / protection ratio, I would strongly recommend it, in terms of weather / bug protection ?and the weight is absolutely gorgeous? downside is the pricing of the tent. Kind regards?
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Am 12.06.2024 um 18:36 schrieb Christine B. <busschristine7@...>:
? Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera. Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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Thank you for all the votes and suggestions! I am considering all input and see what makes more sense.
I am not that keen on bugs, also not on snakes or being soaking wet :)
As I've never been in this landscape (let alone at night) and I can't properly decide, I might take the safe option of a tent. At least for the first time. Will have to come back anyway for some pictures with a proper camera.
Another vote for a bug bivy and tarp. In my case it’s a shaped tarp (currently a Cirriform from Yama but I’ve also used mids from MLD and SMD). I like the simplicity of just dropping the bivy under a tree or nestled in between some rocks most nights but I can enjoy 360° protection when needed.
I don’t hang out in camp much. If I liked to linger I might be motivated to set up (and carry) a more complex tent.
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