14ers.com is a good resource, although focused on Colorado 14ers, they pretty much are good for any Colorado info.
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There is also a FB group for the CT.?
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 5:26 AM ravi_jmt2013 < ravi@...> wrote: I’m not aware of any group like this one for the Colorado Trail. The Colorado Trail Foundation (?has a lot of good information and there’s also a Colorado trail forum on WhiteBlaze. I thru hiked the CT and could answer questions although my hike was in 2014 and things may have changed with services, etc. I view the CT, especially the Collegiate Loop, as a nice JMT alternative.?
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I’m not aware of any group like this one for the Colorado Trail. The Colorado Trail Foundation (?has a lot of good information and there’s also a Colorado trail forum on WhiteBlaze. I thru hiked the CT and could answer questions although my hike was in 2014 and things may have changed with services, etc. I view the CT, especially the Collegiate Loop, as a nice JMT alternative.?
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A bit off topic as this is the JMT group, but I have a question someone may have an answer for. I am looking for a group like this one but for the CT. I am not looking for anything on facebook or anything like that platform. Can you tell I am not a fan of that platform? Lol. I like this group and how it is run, and am hoping that their is one for the CT that is run as nice as this one.
Thanks in advance for any and all help
Alan
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Yes, thanks for the tip. We had planned to do that last year as we had also heard the water report was pretty dry at Sunrise, but we ended up not making it that far due to injury and stayed at upper Cathedral Lake.? This year our permit is out of Sunrise TH, so different route and we will grab water at the last Sunrise Lake, before Sunrise HSC, or just camp near the lake, the first night. Then decide to move to HSC the next day, or add an extra 1.3 miles to our hike to Merced Lake HSC.
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We carried water from upper Cathedral Lake when we did that trail. It was late season (sept) and a low snow year. So plan on that. ?It’s not ridiculously far to carry.
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On Apr 5, 2022, at 7:58 PM, William Vannerus via groups.io <masterv_15@...> wrote:
?Hi Rick,
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, we tried to make Sunrise last year in late Aug., spent first night at upper Cathedral Lakes, and tapped out. Spent the next 4 days there, due to injury.
This time we have Sunrise TH permit and we've come up the 1000 ft of switch backs coming up to junction of Sunrise & CloudsRest.
I think we can make that and then water up at the last Sunrise Lake, bout 1.2 miles before Sunrise HSC, or stay near that lake and then we will take a rest day.
Then press on to Merced Lake for 2 nights at Merced Lake HSC.
Then over to Little Yosemite for a night and then out via Happy Isles.
That's the plan so far ...
Will check water report before we head out though !
regards,
William
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Hi Rick,
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, we tried to make Sunrise last year in late Aug., spent first night at upper Cathedral Lakes, and tapped out. Spent the next 4 days there, due to injury.
This time we have Sunrise TH permit and we've come up the 1000 ft of switch backs coming up to junction of Sunrise & CloudsRest.
I think we can make that and then water up at the last Sunrise Lake, bout 1.2 miles before Sunrise HSC, or stay near that lake and then we will take a rest day.
Then press on to Merced Lake for 2 nights at Merced Lake HSC.
Then over to Little Yosemite for a night and then out via Happy Isles.
That's the plan so far ...
Will check water report before we head out though !
regards,
William
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You'll love it.? We exited at Bishop over Thunderbolt Pass. Joe ? ?
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From: JMT@groups.io On Behalf Of Rick Amr Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 8:56 AM To: JMT@groups.io Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Partner for Sierra High Route ? On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 08:36 AM, Joe MacLeish wrote: Twin Lakes
Have done the bit between Yosemite and Reds - it is epic and challenging, you are in for a treat:?
Currently planning the section between Bishops pass and onion Valley in early August. ~50 Miles on trail and 30 off trail.
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Peter: I do know that when I had to be evac'd from the SHR (first try) and I had to go from the SHR to the JMT and I had to go over Cartridge Pass which I was told as I was struggling along was once part of the JMT as well. Thanks for the info. Joe ?
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From: JMT@groups.io On Behalf Of Peter Hirst Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 9:26 AM To: JMT@groups.io Subject: Re: [JMT-groups.io] Partner for Sierra High Route ? Joe:? Much (more) of what you are covering would likely have been JMT if Joe N LeConte had been able to get a mule over Gabbott Pass in 1908.? His narrative and? map of that journey indicate proposed? and possible routes in addition to what he actually ended up actually traveling.? Much of this mileage is also reflected later in the original maps accompanying Starr's Guide (1934) as KN (Knapsack Route) 1.?
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Joe:? Much (more) of what you are covering would likely have been JMT if Joe N LeConte had been able to get a mule over Gabbott Pass in 1908.? His narrative and? map of that journey indicate proposed? and possible routes in addition to what he actually ended up actually traveling.? Much of this mileage is also reflected later in the original maps accompanying Starr's Guide (1934) as KN (Knapsack Route) 1.?
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On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 08:36 AM, Joe MacLeish wrote:
Twin Lakes
Have done the bit between Yosemite and Reds - it is epic and challenging, you are in for a treat:? Currently planning the section between Bishops pass and onion Valley in early August. ~50 Miles on trail and 30 off trail.
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Hi William,
I do not expect Sunrise to still have water by late August.?I came through Sunrise?in late July two years ago ?which was a similar poor winter) and all I could find were a few puddles of stale water a few miles south of Sunrise.
For planning purposes, consider staying at Cathedral and then push past Sunrise. Ahead of the trip, try to get the latest water reports from fellow hikers/rangers.
I know I am just adding another challenge for you to solve - I wish we would've had a decent winter here in CA.
Rick
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Re: Partner for Sierra High Route
I am doing the Sierra High Route (SHR) from Reds Meadow to Twin Lakes starting mid July. ?I have completed the SHR from Sequoia to Reds in previous years. ?I am looking for a partner. ?This is much harder than the JMT. ?This leg is 75 miles. ?I am planning 7-10 days. ?I am not a gazelle. ?Contact me if you are interested. ?I have permits for 2-3 people.
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On Apr 5, 2022, at 6:05 AM, William Vannerus via groups.io <masterv_15@...> wrote:
?I called a couple packers, but they only service outside Yosemite park. Yosemite concessionaire says since HSCs are not open this year, their pack mules are not running, but also said 3rd party packers could be running, but had no names of packers.? Guess I will keep googling and see if I can find any packer that would service Sunrise and Merced Lakes.
Yes, we also have reservations as Tuolumne Meadows Lodge and have not been canceled (though last 2 years we were canceled), so hope they decide to open in June (?). Looking forward to staying there again.
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I called a couple packers, but they only service outside Yosemite park. Yosemite concessionaire says since HSCs are not open this year, their pack mules are not running, but also said 3rd party packers could be running, but had no names of packers.? Guess I will keep googling and see if I can find any packer that would service Sunrise and Merced Lakes.
Yes, we also have reservations as Tuolumne Meadows Lodge and have not been canceled (though last 2 years we were canceled), so hope they decide to open in June (?). Looking forward to staying there again.
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Yes, I also checked and HSC's are closed for 2022.
Ya, we didn't make it to Sunrise last year, my wife's back was hurting too much and I had to take most of her pack weight and we ended up staying at upper Cathedral lake for a few days (which was very nice), but looking forward to Sunrise this year. Plan to stay 2 nights and check out the Sunrise lakes (have only seen the lower lake a few years back on hike to Clouds Rest, took a slight detour and spent the night :-) )
Also looking forward to Merced Lake.? Any idea if there are fish in the Lake ?
thanks !!
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Yosemite says there are 6 packers licensed to provide various services in the Park:? whether they operate is not necessarily connected to the High Sierra Camps.
Although it is traditionally one of the High Sierra Camps, Tuolumne Meadows Lodge operates independently of the others, and is unique in that you can drive there: it is just off Tioga Road very near the WIlderness office and JMT trailhead.? I have reservations there and have received no notice of cancellation and have confirmed that they are still on.?
In fact when I called to reconfirm the rep did not even seem aware that TML had any connection with the High Sierra Camps.
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I believe I read that all of them are closed. I am pretty sure the info is on the Yosemite National Park website. It was just announced very recently. Backpackers campground at Sunrise is one of my fave spots....I've also camped at Merced Lake when the HSCs are closed and it is quite lovely as well. Have fun
Thanks for the feedback Nancy.
I hadn't heard the HSC's were closed again for 2022.? Do you know, does this include Tuolumne Meadows HSC too ?
For Sunrise and Merced Lakes, we were just planning on staying in the backpackers campground areas.
Yes, we are looking forward to this hike.
Thanks for the tip on lightening our pack weights. Will check it out.
regards
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Thanks for the feedback Nancy.
I hadn't heard the HSC's were closed again for 2022.? Do you know, does this include Tuolumne Meadows HSC too ?
For Sunrise and Merced Lakes, we were just planning on staying in the backpackers campground areas.
Yes, we are looking forward to this hike.
Thanks for the tip on lightening our pack weights. Will check it out.
regards
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Thanks Peter, will check out the link!
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I am not totally sure, but because the High Sierra camps are closed this year, I don't believe there will be mule pack services going either...but I'd check with Yosemite.? ?Can you lighten your packs a bit to help? Some use an app called lighterpack.com....if you fill that out and post here, you will get suggestions on things you can do to lighten up at bit. Hope this is helpful. Great stretch of trail, btw...you will love it....
Greetings,
My wife and I are trying to finish the high sierra camp loop this year. Sunrise HSC & Merced HSC.
We both have back injuries and last year we tried to make it last year to Sunrise HSC via Cathedral Lakes TH, with full packs but was just too much.
We are wondering if there are any Pack Mule services that cover that area, that could be used to help carry some of the weight ?
We have permit for Sunrise TH for August 31st 2022
Sunrise HSC
Merced Lakes?HSC
Little Yosemite
Exit Happy Isles
would appreciate any tips on Mule Pack services
regards
William Vannerus
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