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On Jan 14, 2025, at 6:04?PM, Joe MacLeish via groups.io <jmacleish@...> wrote:

I entered in last weeks lottery and got rejected on the forecast date same as last year so I assume nothing has changed.??

Joe

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From:?[email protected]?<[email protected]>?On Behalf Of?Anand Kumar Sankaran via?
Sent:?Tuesday, January 14, 2025 5:20 PM
To:?[email protected]
Subject:?Re: [] Permit release process for this year.

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I wonder if NR in this context means "sold out". Till last year, it would show "0" if it was sold out. Perhaps that is all it is.

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 17:11, Anand Kumar Sankaran via??<anand.sankaran=[email protected]> wrote:

Does anyone know what is going on with this year's permit release process?? On some days, permits are released. On others, it is not released and clicking on NR says "visit 2 weeks before (exact date) for reservation".

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On 12/26/2024 1:10 AM CST Ger Murphy via groups.io <germurphymail@...> wrote:

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Hi All,

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I was just looking to book a permit from Bear Ridge trailhead in John Muir for late June / early July, and all dates are blank. Does anyone know if there is a change to the process this year please?

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Regards, Geraldine.

On Dec 9, 2024, at 8:30?AM, Joseph Boyle <jrbloop@...> wrote:

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Sorry I thought I replied earlier.

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Yes, after looking deeper into it - and confirming that I could select other entry points and still legally complete JMT through Whitney - I also believe that the blocked out reservations on certain trailheads could be due to them being accessible via the road to Red's Meadow which is still closed.

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Side note: RED CONES is actually a way easier entry point to manage and only about a mile down trail from Red's anyway. Unlike Red's I can call an uber and have them drop my off at the trailhead after I do my acclimation days in Mammoth. It really was the best advice so thank you Frank and thanks also to the group for all the valuable insight over the years. ?Now gotta make sure I keep up my training so that I am ready for August and completing my JMT!!!

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Thanks,

jb

On Dec 9, 2024, at 8:30?AM, Joseph Boyle <jrbloop@...> wrote:

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Sorry I thought I replied earlier.

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Yes, after looking deeper into it - and confirming that I could select other entry points and still legally complete JMT through Whitney - I also believe that the blocked out reservations on certain trailheads could be due to them being accessible via the road to Red's Meadow which is still closed.

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Side note: RED CONES is actually a way easier entry point to manage and only about a mile down trail from Red's anyway. Unlike Red's I can call an uber and have them drop my off at the trailhead after I do my acclimation days in Mammoth. It really was the best advice so thank you Frank and thanks also to the group for all the valuable insight over the years. ?Now gotta make sure I keep up my training so that I am ready for August and completing my JMT!!!

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Thanks,

jb

I looked at the permit page for early June. There are some trailheads with quotas listed, but it? looks like they are not releasing any from trailheads near Red's Meadow. I have no official information but I think this is because of the on-going Red's Meadow Road road construction.?

Last year the road was closed from May to June 7 and on weekdays after that. Inyo did not release permits for trailheads accessed by the road when the road was closed. I don't think they finished the road so that may be why you don't see those permits this year.? They took a long time to publish this last year.

If your going in August the permits won't be ready until February. Check again in a couple of weeks or in January to see what the status of the Red's Meadows trailheads is. The JMT permits may not be available during the week so you may want to look into starting at Red Cones or Duck Pass.

You want to be online ready to reserve your permit and refresh the page at 0700 Pacific Time because some trailheads will fill up in seconds.

Fall notice on road construction -

Inyo 2024 road closure order -

Frank

On 12/5/2024 9:22 PM, Joseph Boyle via groups.io wrote:

Hi all -

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I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.

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From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)

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Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…

jb

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Frank

I looked at the permit page for early June. There are some trailheads with quotas listed, but it? looks like they are not releasing any from trailheads near Red's Meadow. I have no official information but I think this is because of the on-going Red's Meadow Road road construction.?

Last year the road was closed from May to June 7 and on weekdays after that. Inyo did not release permits for trailheads accessed by the road when the road was closed. I don't think they finished the road so that may be why you don't see those permits this year.? They took a long time to publish this last year.

If your going in August the permits won't be ready until February. Check again in a couple of weeks or in January to see what the status of the Red's Meadows trailheads is. The JMT permits may not be available during the week so you may want to look into starting at Red Cones or Duck Pass.

You want to be online ready to reserve your permit and refresh the page at 0700 Pacific Time because some trailheads will fill up in seconds.

Fall notice on road construction -

Inyo 2024 road closure order -

Frank

On 12/5/2024 9:22 PM, Joseph Boyle via wrote:

Hi all -

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I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.

?

From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)

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Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…

jb

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Frank

Hi all -

?

I am attempting a permit entering at Red’s SOBO, exiting/summiting Mount Whitney this August.?

I am prepping for the permit process, which by the way is more daunting than the hike itself, and I’m thoroughly confused by the system.

?

From what I can tell, they release permits six months in advance, but for John Muir Trail exiting Whitney they are completely blanked out with zeros all year long including on the date that new permits are being released. (I’ve checked a few times)

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Does anyone have experience with this particular permit? Do I need to start by entering Whitney lottery instead??

Thanks in advance…

jb

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On Nov 3, 2024, at 09:45, Nancy via groups.io <jnmauge@...> wrote:

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Ray, is the Rucker a good fit for your wife too???

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 08:30:19 AM PDT, Ray Rippel <ray.rippel@...> wrote:

Good morning, Ravi, Anand,

I used to be a frequent contributor here, but I've been lurking the past few years and doing very little backpacking (retirement, grandsons, trying to get my health right), but these two posts have drug me back into the forum. Three quick things:

~ My wife and I are also fully committed to all things Attia. We started with the book, then the podcasts, and even enrolled into "Early." I know it sounds like a cliche, but it has changed our lives. I could make a convincing case that we are both ten years younger than we were a decade ago. We can't recommend it enough.

~ I absolutely LOVE my GoRuck. I have a Rucker 25L and a 30# plate; I use it several times a week and even more when I travel (without the plate — I find something else heavy to put in). It is just about?the most versatile piece of gear I own — great for cardio, plus it's essentially a kettlebell I can use to enhance bodyweight exercises.

~ Lastly, I have an idea which may or may not be any good (no offense if you two tell me it isn't). Do you think there would be enough interest to start a small group forum (a dozen or so people) centering around Attia/GoRuck/etc? If so, I'd be happy to do the legwork (techwork?) at my end.

As I said, I haven't gotten out into the woods much lately, but I sure have enjoyed reading the posts here. Thanks, everyone!

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 7:49?AM Anand Kumar Sankaran via <anand.sankaran=[email protected]> wrote:

Ravi

Another runner friend of mine used “rucking” as a way to get in shape for this summer (his first multi day backpacking trip in the High Sierra). IIRC, he even jogged a bit with a 25 lb pack.

Another big fan of Attia here. A great companion for South Asians is?. (Dr. Sinha is also my “lifestyle doctor”, I am lucky enough to be able to work with him).

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Anand Kumar?Sankaran

On Nov 1, 2024, at 7:25?AM, ravi_jmt2013 via <ravi=[email protected]> wrote:

About three months ago, I got into "rucking" which is just walking with a weighted backpack. There are a lot of setups, but GoRuck is probably the most well known. I heard about rucking from Peter Attia's podcasts (which I highly recommend). What's great about rucking, in the context of backpacking, is that one can stay in shape for carrying loads with a small form factor pack, rather than loading up a regular backpacking setup. Rucking involves carrying the load higher on the back than in backpacking, and most people don't use a waist belt (I don't use one). I have found it a great form of exercise to walk with about 20-25% of my body weight, which is about 35-40 pounds, far more than I ever carry for backpacking. This makes my typical backpacking load in my ULA packs seem luxurious in comparison. Anyway, I haven't been able to get out much on trails for several years and this is a way to stay in shape in the city in a non-conspicuous way, compared to walking around with a backpacking setup. As we are now in the "off season" for the JMT, I thought I'd post as an idea for others looking to stay in shape. I also run about 200 miles/month and do weight training, but neither of those activities alone is sufficient prep for backpacking. At age 51, I am increasingly aware of the limited number of summers I have left to enjoy the high Sierra in relatively vigorous health and I think this rucking habit might buy me a few years into my 70s (hopefully) and maybe I have another good 25 years left to enjoy backpacking (crossing fingers, knock on wood).

On Nov 3, 2024, at 09:45, Nancy via groups.io <jnmauge@...> wrote:

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Ray, is the Rucker a good fit for your wife too???

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 08:30:19 AM PDT, Ray Rippel <ray.rippel@...> wrote:

Good morning, Ravi, Anand,

I used to be a frequent contributor here, but I've been lurking the past few years and doing very little backpacking (retirement, grandsons, trying to get my health right), but these two posts have drug me back into the forum. Three quick things:

~ My wife and I are also fully committed to all things Attia. We started with the book, then the podcasts, and even enrolled into "Early." I know it sounds like a cliche, but it has changed our lives. I could make a convincing case that we are both ten years younger than we were a decade ago. We can't recommend it enough.

~ I absolutely LOVE my GoRuck. I have a Rucker 25L and a 30# plate; I use it several times a week and even more when I travel (without the plate — I find something else heavy to put in). It is just about?the most versatile piece of gear I own — great for cardio, plus it's essentially a kettlebell I can use to enhance bodyweight exercises.

~ Lastly, I have an idea which may or may not be any good (no offense if you two tell me it isn't). Do you think there would be enough interest to start a small group forum (a dozen or so people) centering around Attia/GoRuck/etc? If so, I'd be happy to do the legwork (techwork?) at my end.

As I said, I haven't gotten out into the woods much lately, but I sure have enjoyed reading the posts here. Thanks, everyone!

On Fri, Nov 1, 2024 at 7:49?AM Anand Kumar Sankaran via <anand.sankaran=[email protected]> wrote:

Ravi

Another runner friend of mine used “rucking” as a way to get in shape for this summer (his first multi day backpacking trip in the High Sierra). IIRC, he even jogged a bit with a 25 lb pack.

Another big fan of Attia here. A great companion for South Asians is?. (Dr. Sinha is also my “lifestyle doctor”, I am lucky enough to be able to work with him).

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Anand Kumar?Sankaran

On Nov 1, 2024, at 7:25?AM, ravi_jmt2013 via <ravi=[email protected]> wrote:

About three months ago, I got into "rucking" which is just walking with a weighted backpack. There are a lot of setups, but GoRuck is probably the most well known. I heard about rucking from Peter Attia's podcasts (which I highly recommend). What's great about rucking, in the context of backpacking, is that one can stay in shape for carrying loads with a small form factor pack, rather than loading up a regular backpacking setup. Rucking involves carrying the load higher on the back than in backpacking, and most people don't use a waist belt (I don't use one). I have found it a great form of exercise to walk with about 20-25% of my body weight, which is about 35-40 pounds, far more than I ever carry for backpacking. This makes my typical backpacking load in my ULA packs seem luxurious in comparison. Anyway, I haven't been able to get out much on trails for several years and this is a way to stay in shape in the city in a non-conspicuous way, compared to walking around with a backpacking setup. As we are now in the "off season" for the JMT, I thought I'd post as an idea for others looking to stay in shape. I also run about 200 miles/month and do weight training, but neither of those activities alone is sufficient prep for backpacking. At age 51, I am increasingly aware of the limited number of summers I have left to enjoy the high Sierra in relatively vigorous health and I think this rucking habit might buy me a few years into my 70s (hopefully) and maybe I have another good 25 years left to enjoy backpacking (crossing fingers, knock on wood).

Ravi

Another runner friend of mine used “rucking” as a way to get in shape for this summer (his first multi day backpacking trip in the High Sierra). IIRC, he even jogged a bit with a 25 lb pack.

Another big fan of Attia here. A great companion for South Asians is?. (Dr. Sinha is also my “lifestyle doctor”, I am lucky enough to be able to work with him).

--
Anand Kumar?Sankaran

On Nov 1, 2024, at 7:25?AM, ravi_jmt2013 via <ravi=[email protected]> wrote:

About three months ago, I got into "rucking" which is just walking with a weighted backpack. There are a lot of setups, but GoRuck is probably the most well known. I heard about rucking from Peter Attia's podcasts (which I highly recommend). What's great about rucking, in the context of backpacking, is that one can stay in shape for carrying loads with a small form factor pack, rather than loading up a regular backpacking setup. Rucking involves carrying the load higher on the back than in backpacking, and most people don't use a waist belt (I don't use one). I have found it a great form of exercise to walk with about 20-25% of my body weight, which is about 35-40 pounds, far more than I ever carry for backpacking. This makes my typical backpacking load in my ULA packs seem luxurious in comparison. Anyway, I haven't been able to get out much on trails for several years and this is a way to stay in shape in the city in a non-conspicuous way, compared to walking around with a backpacking setup. As we are now in the "off season" for the JMT, I thought I'd post as an idea for others looking to stay in shape. I also run about 200 miles/month and do weight training, but neither of those activities alone is sufficient prep for backpacking. At age 51, I am increasingly aware of the limited number of summers I have left to enjoy the high Sierra in relatively vigorous health and I think this rucking habit might buy me a few years into my 70s (hopefully) and maybe I have another good 25 years left to enjoy backpacking (crossing fingers, knock on wood).