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Re: Wondering if it is possible to use a Happy Isles to Illilouette wilderness permit to access Tuolumne Meadows?

 

This was my plan in 2017 - I even called the wilderness permit office and they confirmed it was within the rules to do this. Backtracking does not "violate the rules" for this permit - there is no Park rule that says you can't backtrack after meeting your first night's camping obligation (if so, it would have to be expressly stated for the specific permit, because it is not a generic permit rule).?

I ended up getting a no-show HI-LYV permit (Donohue exit) permit on the day I went to pick up the Illilouette permit, so I never ended up doing it - but there should be nothing stopping you from doing that.

I still want to get back there as I had done a little research in preparation and it sounded like there are a couple cool campsites at the base of Mt Starr King.

Regards,
Lange


On Monday, 28 March 2022, 06:58:01 am AEDT, shubillpete@... <shubillpete@...> wrote:


Hello Yosemite Experts,?

I am just wondering if it is possible to use a Happy Isles to Illilouette Wilderness Permit to access Tuolumne Meadows??

Potential route would be:?

Day 1 - Happy Isles to Panorama Trail Junction to the first permissible campsite on the trail that hugs the west side of Mt Starr King (the Yosemite TH map shows that this route is permissible for the Happy Isles - Illilouette permit)?

Day 2 - Backtrack the Mt Starr King trail to JMT, then proceed up to Cathedral Lakes.?

Day 3 - Cathedral Lakes to TM, and pick up my next permit at TM.?

I have a Lyell Canyon (Donoghue Pass Eligible) JMT permit, so this would basically be a work around for covering the HI to TM leg.?

Someone on another forum suggested that I might be potentially be in violation of my HI to Illilouette permit if I backtracked to the JMT after the first night.?

My understanding was that as long as you enter the correct TH and sleep in the correct first night location, the rest of the trip is fair game on any route (with the exception of "special conditions" routes, such as the Donohue Pass quota system for JMT permits).?

I would be grateful for any insight!
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