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Great observation John. I have had several October hikes come with rain and one with 8" of snow as well - I was north of Highway 80 on the PCT. I bailed then since it was the beginnings of a storm that I just did not want to be in.

I am out hiking for enjoyment and that night I was contemplating pushing the hike for the remaining 2 two days or call it so I would not be in a miserable situation. We all need to think about ourselves and resources that may be employed helping one out of a situation that could have been avoided from the beginning.

As being involved with canine SAR for two decades, I have searched in miserable weather as well knowing that I was in a position to get out safely.

Be safe all.

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As an admin of this group, I think there are two warnings important to any of our members considering October hikes. While not many people hike in a "normal" October, it may be tempting to do so if you had August-September plans frustrated by the National Forest closures.

1) Any October hike of significant length is likely to involve some snowfall sufficient to obscure the trail, leading to navigation problems for those not accustomed to navigation problems. Occasionally it can be quite heavy and lead to wallowing in deep, soft snow, at least where it drifts at a location you have to hike over. Picture at link is from Oct 6, 2015 at Pinchot Pass.



2) October 1 is the start of the federal government's fiscal year. When there is gridlock about budget and debt limit issues, government shutdowns have been triggered by this date. Recent news suggests that this problem may arise this year on Oct 1 or shortly thereafter.

Please do not respond with comments about politics. I will place this message thread on comment moderated status and political posts will not be approved by your admin team.

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