Greater Ohio sends pitcher Steve Hamilton to Hazard for a 1968 4th round pick.
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Bristol Stateliner Wavier Wire Pickups
The Bristol Stateliners need to pick up the following:
Orlando Pena? RP Bob Priddy? ? ? ?rp Hank Aquirre? rp
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Ann Arbor and Greater Ohio Trade
Ann Arbor sends 1968 4th?round pick to the Chia Pets in exchange for the final year of a 5 year contract for Bob Gibson.
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Ann Arbor/Pittsburgh trade
Ann Arbor is trading their first and second round pick for Pittsburgh's 1:7 pick
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1967 predraft contract master
all FA's are included on this one
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Greater Ohio is looking for picks in 67 or 68
Dave Wickersham 1yr C/B*1 Eddie Fischer?5yrs 67C*z 68B*z 69C*z 70C/B*z 71C/B*z Steve Hamilton 5yr 67C*x 68A*1xz 69 B*xz 70 B*1yz 71B*1xzz Clay Carroll 5yr 67D/D*z 68C/B*z 69C/B* 70A*yz
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JAG 1967 free agency final signings
Pittsburgh signs Boyer 2yr, Mazeroski 2yr, and Blass 5yr (3rd, 4th, 5th)
REK Azcue 3yr (3rd rd)
Bristol Singer 5yr (2nd)
Ringgold Mays 5yr and Dierker 5yr (2nd, 7th)
Hazard Pepitone 5yr and McDowell 5yr (Fly4th 3rd)
Sparktown Mantle 2yr and Raymond 2yr (3rd, 5th)
Pleasonton Brown 2yr(5th)
Greater Ohio Bolin 2yr, Niekro 5yr, Hamilton 5yr, Carroll 5yr (10th, 1st, 4th, 7th)
Kville Stottlemyre 5yr (1st)
Free agency is now closed and onto the draft.
Good luck all Dev
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Greater Ohio trades longtime starter Bob Veale and Joe Foy to Pittsburgh for Gene Alley and Don Wert.
Dev
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1967 FREE AGENTCY 1st signings
Welcome to Free agency?day in JAG
9 guys were not offered a contract and will either retire or head back to the drafting hoping to catch on to a team this spring.
Don Clendenon Rocky Colavito Chuck Hinton Derron Johnson Bob Lee Billy Odell Floyd Robinson John Romano Russ Snyder
7 teams signed 15 guys 3 took advantage of the HOMETOWN DISCOUNT Johnny Callison resigned with Louisville for the next 4 years passing up Sparktown, Ringgold and Pittsburgh Billy McCool is staying in Hazard for another season? Dave Wickersham resigned?a 1 year deal with Greater Ohio
Pittsburgh signed 3 Fred Whitfield, Leon Wagner and Bruce Howard all to 1 year deals Ringgold got Jimmie Hall for 1 year and Bill White for 2 years Sparktown landed Dick Ellsworth for the next 2 seasons Louisville Signed Lindy McDaniel to 4 years and Bob Bailey to 5 years Greater Ohio added Eddie Fisher 5 years and Mudcat Grant 4 years to the pitching staff Pleasonton gave 5 years to both Luis Aparico and Tommy Davis
The players below all had multiple tied offers and will await the 2nd signing day.
| Azcue,
Joe |
| Blass, Steve |
| Bolin, Bob |
| Boyer, Clete |
| BROWN, GATES? |
| Carroll, Clay |
| Dierker, Larry |
| HAMILTON,
Steve |
| MAYS, Willie |
| Mazeroski,
'Bill? |
| McDowell,
Sam? |
| Mickey Mantle |
| Niekro, Phil |
| Pepitone,
Joe? |
| Raymond,
Claude |
| Singer, Bill |
| Stottlemyre,
Mel |
IF you were involved in a tie you will receive?an email listing all the players you are tied on.
Congrats and good luck Dev
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Drum roll please...your 1966 JAG award winners:
All-Stars
C Joe Torre (REK, unanimous); honorable mention Tom Haller (Cobras).
1B Norm Cash (Chia Pets); Don Clendenon (Cobras).
2B Bill Mazeroski (Space Cowboys); Horace Clark (State Liners), Pete Rose (Bombers) TIE
3B Ron Santo (River Rats); Jim Ray Hart (Cruisers).
SS Gene Alley (Cobras); Sonny Jackson (Chia Pets).
OF Willie Mays (Pheasants), Harmon Killebrew (Rockets), Frank Robinson (Homies);
Willie Stargell (REK), Billy Williams (Cruisers), Felipe Alou (REK).
Rookie of the Year
Sonny Jackson (Chia Pets), also an All-Star; honorable mention Larry Jaster (REK).
Fireman
Joe Hoerner (REK); honorable mention Stu Miller (State Liners).
Cy Young
Gary Peters (Cruisers); honorable mention teammate Phil Ortega.
MVP
Willie "The Say Hey Kid" Mays (Pheasants); honorable mention Harmon "Killer" Killebrew (Rockets).
Congratulations to all the winners and their respective GMs, as well as the River Rats, for taking down their second title in four years.
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On May 16, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Mark Paris via groups.io <pwdparis@...> wrote:
? For the 1966 season:
C: Torre, Roseborough 1B: Adcock, Cash 2B: Clarke, Mazeroski 3B: Santo, Charles SS: Jackson, Mcauliffe OF: Mays, Killebrew, F. Robinson; Stargell, B. Williams, F. Alou
Cy Young: Peters, Bunning
Fireman:? Hoerner, Miller
MVP: Mays, Killebrew, Adcock
Rookie of the Year:?Jackson, Peterson
Thanks,
Mark Pheasants in '67!
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Pheasants' award nominees
For the 1966 season:
C: Torre, Roseborough 1B: Adcock, Cash 2B: Clarke, Mazeroski 3B: Santo, Charles SS: Jackson, Mcauliffe OF: Mays, Killebrew, F. Robinson; Stargell, B. Williams, F. Alou
Cy Young: Peters, Bunning
Fireman:? Hoerner, Miller
MVP: Mays, Killebrew, Adcock
Rookie of the Year:?Jackson, Peterson
Thanks,
Mark Pheasants in '67!
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On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 11:45?AM Bill Rowerdink via <rowerdink5= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Harold,
I'll offer Jim ray Hart and Lou Brock for McCovey and Pete Rose 5 yr contracts for all
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 08:57:52 AM EDT, Harold Brashear < hlbrashear@...> wrote:
Looking for offers for Pete Rose and Willie McCovey
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Re: Looking for Trade Offers
Hi Harold,
I'll offer Jim ray Hart and Lou Brock for McCovey and Pete Rose 5 yr contracts for all
On Thursday, May 16, 2024 at 08:57:52 AM EDT, Harold Brashear <hlbrashear@...> wrote:
Looking for offers for Pete Rose and Willie McCovey
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Looking for offers for Pete Rose and Willie McCovey
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Re: Free agency (JAG and DABB)
With no penalties in place, there is nothing to stop an owner from max-bidding on every player, except the fact that you could be stuck with only a few players and have to make a bunch of lopsided trades to field a team. We have seen that play out from guys
just bidding on a few too many players, which is why I wanted to start this discussion in the first place.?
I like the free agency aspect of these leagues but wanted to find a way to keep those situations from happening while still letting guys bid a bit.?
Easy to say you know how many contract years you have and you should stay within that, but that usually means only bidding on a few players and not getting anybody as other players also bid the same on those players. At least that has been my experience for
the most part.?
Breaking the process up into groups might be a good way to help that situation. If we are not bidding on every FA pitcher, but only a third or a half of them at a time, it could thin out the bids a bit.??
Larry
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Playing devils advocate here. What is stopping owner from max bidding on every single player so he could get whoever he wants?
On May 15, 2024, at 10:06 AM, Larry Ridgeway <hoffridge@...> wrote:
?
Hey, Dev.?
??????As we approach another free agency period in JAG, I wondered if there was any possible tweak we could do to the process.
??????As has happened on a couple of occasions in both JAG and DABB, guys have over-extended contract-wise because of the process. You need a SP and put in max bids on 4 or 5 hoping to get one. Same with catchers or any other position. Then you find out you
landed 3 or 4 max contract guys and that puts you over, forcing you to unload guys to get under the cap. Maybe even leaving you in violation of the constitution which says the minimum for rosters is 25 players.?
?????Would there be a way we might add another step to the process and allow us to "rescind" offers after the fact, which would allow us to get back under the cap easier? The player could then go to the next-best offer on the board. As it is usually 'max-offer'
players that cause the problems, the player would still find a home with the next-best offer. Maybe the cost of a mid-round draft pick could serve as a penalty for rescinding an offer. Make it hurt a little bit but not as much as having to "dump" contracts
through lop-sided trades.?
??????Just a thought.?
Larry Ridgeway
Ridge's REK/Canton Comets
HOFfridge
330-575-1508
??????
PS I know some of you are in both leagues and I apologize that you received?this twice.?
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Re: Free agency (JAG and DABB)
I like the 5-year limit in JAG. It requires more planning and strategy. The only thing that I would possibly change is that a team can lose 3 or 4 free agents just because teams have higher draft picks. I think that every round one should be equal and in the case of a tie at that level, just give up another pick. As it is now, if. you have the top pick, you can get any free agent you want. So if two teams bid 5 years and a 1st rounder, then they would have a chance to kick in another pick and if that is a tie give another. Another thought is that if a team bids the max on one of their players and loses a tie, they get the forfeited draft pick.
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 1:06?PM Larry Ridgeway via <hoffridge= [email protected]> wrote:
Hey, Dev.?
??????As we approach another free agency period in JAG, I wondered if there was any possible tweak we could do to the process.
??????As has happened on a couple of occasions in both JAG and DABB, guys have over-extended contract-wise because of the process. You need a SP and put in max bids on 4 or 5 hoping to get one. Same with catchers or any other position. Then you find out you
landed 3 or 4 max contract guys and that puts you over, forcing you to unload guys to get under the cap. Maybe even leaving you in violation of the constitution which says the minimum for rosters is 25 players.?
?????Would there be a way we might add another step to the process and allow us to "rescind" offers after the fact, which would allow us to get back under the cap easier? The player could then go to the next-best offer on the board. As it is usually 'max-offer'
players that cause the problems, the player would still find a home with the next-best offer. Maybe the cost of a mid-round draft pick could serve as a penalty for rescinding an offer. Make it hurt a little bit but not as much as having to "dump" contracts
through lop-sided trades.?
??????Just a thought.?
Larry Ridgeway
Ridge's REK/Canton Comets
HOFfridge
330-575-1508
??????
PS I know some of you are in both leagues and I apologize that you received?this twice.?
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Re: Free agency (JAG and DABB)
Just my 2 cents. Every manager know how many years he has at the beginning of FA bid process.?Keep as is but impose a tiered penalty system?Bidding more than that number they are ?aware of the penalty. ?If the team is over when the players are awarded to their new teams they forfeit a draft pick 1-2 years 5rd round ?pick 3-4 years 4th round pick 5-6 years 3rd round pick 7+. Years. 2nd round pick Even if they manage to make trades to get down to the limit draft is forfeited.?
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? Playing devils advocate here. What is stopping owner from max bidding on every single player so he could get whoever he wants? On May 15, 2024, at 10:06 AM, Larry Ridgeway <hoffridge@...> wrote:
?
Hey, Dev.?
??????As we approach another free agency period in JAG, I wondered if there was any possible tweak we could do to the process.
??????As has happened on a couple of occasions in both JAG and DABB, guys have over-extended contract-wise because of the process. You need a SP and put in max bids on 4 or 5 hoping to get one. Same with catchers or any other position. Then you find out you
landed 3 or 4 max contract guys and that puts you over, forcing you to unload guys to get under the cap. Maybe even leaving you in violation of the constitution which says the minimum for rosters is 25 players.?
?????Would there be a way we might add another step to the process and allow us to "rescind" offers after the fact, which would allow us to get back under the cap easier? The player could then go to the next-best offer on the board. As it is usually 'max-offer'
players that cause the problems, the player would still find a home with the next-best offer. Maybe the cost of a mid-round draft pick could serve as a penalty for rescinding an offer. Make it hurt a little bit but not as much as having to "dump" contracts
through lop-sided trades.?
??????Just a thought.?
Larry Ridgeway
Ridge's REK/Canton Comets
HOFfridge
330-575-1508
??????
PS I know some of you are in both leagues and I apologize that you received?this twice.?
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Re: Free agency (JAG and DABB)
Playing devils advocate here. What is stopping owner from max bidding on every single player so he could get whoever he wants?
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On May 15, 2024, at 10:06 AM, Larry Ridgeway <hoffridge@...> wrote:
?
Hey, Dev.?
??????As we approach another free agency period in JAG, I wondered if there was any possible tweak we could do to the process.
??????As has happened on a couple of occasions in both JAG and DABB, guys have over-extended contract-wise because of the process. You need a SP and put in max bids on 4 or 5 hoping to get one. Same with catchers or any other position. Then you find out you
landed 3 or 4 max contract guys and that puts you over, forcing you to unload guys to get under the cap. Maybe even leaving you in violation of the constitution which says the minimum for rosters is 25 players.?
?????Would there be a way we might add another step to the process and allow us to "rescind" offers after the fact, which would allow us to get back under the cap easier? The player could then go to the next-best offer on the board. As it is usually 'max-offer'
players that cause the problems, the player would still find a home with the next-best offer. Maybe the cost of a mid-round draft pick could serve as a penalty for rescinding an offer. Make it hurt a little bit but not as much as having to "dump" contracts
through lop-sided trades.?
??????Just a thought.?
Larry Ridgeway
Ridge's REK/Canton Comets
HOFfridge
330-575-1508
??????
PS I know some of you are in both leagues and I apologize that you received?this twice.?
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Harold Brashear
Larry Ridgeway