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Hello Group!
I'm trying to get a handle on my test gear and decided to start looking at my HP hoard.
I need to decide what to keep/fix/purge/replace and finally joining here seemed like a good first step.
I have at least the following items, maybe more hiding unseen in the various piles:
HP:
- several linear power supplies,
- K04-0980A Powerstat
- a gain phase meter (3575A?)
- 33120A function generator
- 3456A voltmeter
- a pair of 1662AS logic analyzers (with at least one keyboard and one mouse...more I think)
- 8505A vector network analyzer with 8501 storage normalizer and 8503A S-parameter kit
Agilent:
- 1147A scope current probe (for the 3034T 'scope below)
- 34410A multimeter
- and maybe a scope in storage?? I need to check on that.
Keysight:
MSOX-3034T oscilloscope
Tektronix:
- approximately 0.42 container ships full of big iron piled ceiling high in the living room
Random other MFG's:
- a pair of IBM Model M keyboards, one for work and one for home (they count as boat anchors too!)
- generally too much stuff !!!
The immediate goal is to get all of this off the floor and off the benches so I can at least check functionality of everything.
Longer term I want to eliminate redundant gear and fill some holes in the lab and then start playing with stuff again!
Cheers,
-Chris
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Hi Chris Welcome to the group but your problem is not new and one that most on this group suffer from ? Covid shut down for the past 2 years? has meant a lack of rallies / to reduce our stock and fill in the missing items we could better use With that you didn¡¯t say what you are wanting to achieve as in which branch of testing to you require Analog / audio Digital / logic Radio frequency this is the big one as this is dependent on the highest frequency you want to work at Regarding redundant gear this is difficult as redundant because you don¡¯t require that measurement OK out it But redundant because you already have one, The day after you sell the redundant one you will require it ? Best of luck with the sort out? Regards Paul ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wilkson via groups.io
Sent: 06 November 2021 06:50
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Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] New member intro ? Hello Group!
I'm trying to get a handle on my test gear and decided to start looking at my HP hoard.
I need to decide what to keep/fix/purge/replace and finally joining here seemed like a good first step.
I have at least the following items, maybe more hiding unseen in the various piles:
HP:
- several linear power supplies,
- K04-0980A Powerstat
- a gain phase meter (3575A?)
- 33120A function generator
- 3456A voltmeter
- a pair of 1662AS logic analyzers (with at least one keyboard and one mouse...more I think)
- 8505A vector network analyzer with 8501 storage normalizer and 8503A S-parameter kit
Agilent:
- 1147A scope current probe (for the 3034T 'scope below)
- 34410A multimeter
- and maybe a scope in storage?? I need to check on that.
Keysight:
MSOX-3034T oscilloscope
Tektronix:
- approximately 0.42 container ships full of big iron piled ceiling high in the living room
Random other MFG's:
- a pair of IBM Model M keyboards, one for work and one for home (they count as boat anchors too!)
- generally too much stuff !!!
The immediate goal is to get all of this off the floor and off the benches so I can at least check functionality of everything.
Longer term I want to eliminate redundant gear and fill some holes in the lab and then start playing with stuff again!
Cheers,
-Chris
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The only one of those I recognize is the 3456A DVM, as I purchased one a year or two ago. eBay prices range from less than US$100 to several hundred depending on condition, calibration, and the seller¡¯s knowledge of the equipment and the market. If your 3456A works, it¡¯s probably not that badly out of calibration and should fetch $100 or more.
Jeremy?
On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 2:15 AM Paul Bicknell < admin@...> wrote: Hi Chris Welcome to the group but your problem is not new and one that most on this group suffer from ? Covid shut down for the past 2 years? has meant a lack of rallies / to reduce our stock and fill in the missing items we could better use With that you didn¡¯t say what you are wanting to achieve as in which branch of testing to you require Analog / audio Digital / logic Radio frequency this is the big one as this is dependent on the highest frequency you want to work at Regarding redundant gear this is difficult as redundant because you don¡¯t require that measurement OK out it But redundant because you already have one, The day after you sell the redundant one you will require it ? Best of luck with the sort out? Regards Paul ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wilkson via
Sent: 06 November 2021 06:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] New member intro ? Hello Group!
I'm trying to get a handle on my test gear and decided to start looking at my HP hoard.
I need to decide what to keep/fix/purge/replace and finally joining here seemed like a good first step.
I have at least the following items, maybe more hiding unseen in the various piles:
HP:
- several linear power supplies,
- K04-0980A Powerstat
- a gain phase meter (3575A?)
- 33120A function generator
- 3456A voltmeter
- a pair of 1662AS logic analyzers (with at least one keyboard and one mouse...more I think)
- 8505A vector network analyzer with 8501 storage normalizer and 8503A S-parameter kit
Agilent:
- 1147A scope current probe (for the 3034T 'scope below)
- 34410A multimeter
- and maybe a scope in storage?? I need to check on that.
Keysight:
MSOX-3034T oscilloscope
Tektronix:
- approximately 0.42 container ships full of big iron piled ceiling high in the living room
Random other MFG's:
- a pair of IBM Model M keyboards, one for work and one for home (they count as boat anchors too!)
- generally too much stuff !!!
The immediate goal is to get all of this off the floor and off the benches so I can at least check functionality of everything.
Longer term I want to eliminate redundant gear and fill some holes in the lab and then start playing with stuff again!
Cheers,
-Chris
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Chris; it depends on your hobby, What do you want to do? One of my hobbies turned out to be fixing old HP test equipment because it was an excellent way to learn electronics. The manuals for the 1960s thru 1980s test equipment are excellent and will teach you more than any textbook. I use my HP equipment for science experiments because I find it interesting. Impedance measurements interest?me and I built a dielectric test set because it cost $5000 to buy a used one. Lots of fun and great satisfaction from getting it working. I keep a local business's two HP8753ES Vector Network Analyzers working because I can , the owner is a friend, and he gave me his old 8753B among other things. A challenge and also fun. My other hobby is building a ROV, Robotic Arm, and Sonar. My HP equipment has been invaluable for that. Many Radio HAMs measure their antennas, power, and build RF stuff.? What you have can be quite useful for many things. The 8505A system would be difficult to get plots from. It has been done by me and others but I suggest you use a camera. If you have the money buy an HP8753B but make sure it works unless you are up for the challenge. My experience is to buy totally dead equipment cheap. Filter capacitors in the power supply are a common problem and an easy fix. Check the power supplies first using?a Digital Voltmeter AND A 'SCOPE. Never adjust anything until you have fixed the problem and got the box working. In the case of an 8753 go through the calibration procedure but don't set the save switch and don't adjust anything until you have found and fixed the problem. Adjustments just add a second (or 3rd, 4th...) fault. Sometimes pulling the boards and reinserting them will fix a problem (always unplugged!). Look for overheated?parts and bad solder connections. When at a dead end ask here but do your own share of troubleshooting first.? For some items a second parts unit could be useful for swapping boards, Mark them first so you get them back where they came from unless you want to do a full adjustment on them. Best of luck, Peter
Hello Group!
I'm trying to get a handle on my test gear and decided to start looking at my HP hoard.
I need to decide what to keep/fix/purge/replace and finally joining here seemed like a good first step.
I have at least the following items, maybe more hiding unseen in the various piles:
HP:
- several linear power supplies,
- K04-0980A Powerstat
- a gain phase meter (3575A?)
- 33120A function generator
- 3456A voltmeter
- a pair of 1662AS logic analyzers (with at least one keyboard and one mouse...more I think)
- 8505A vector network analyzer with 8501 storage normalizer and 8503A S-parameter kit
Agilent:
- 1147A scope current probe (for the 3034T 'scope below)
- 34410A multimeter
- and maybe a scope in storage?? I need to check on that.
Keysight:
MSOX-3034T oscilloscope
Tektronix:
- approximately 0.42 container ships full of big iron piled ceiling high in the living room
Random other MFG's:
- a pair of IBM Model M keyboards, one for work and one for home (they count as boat anchors too!)
- generally too much stuff !!!
The immediate goal is to get all of this off the floor and off the benches so I can at least check functionality of everything.
Longer term I want to eliminate redundant gear and fill some holes in the lab and then start playing with stuff again!
Cheers,
-Chris
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On 11/6/21 2:50 AM, Chris Wilkson via
groups.io wrote:
Hello Group!
I'm trying to get a handle on my test gear and decided to start
looking at my HP hoard.
I need to decide what to keep/fix/purge/replace and finally
joining here seemed like a good first step.
I have at least the following items, maybe more hiding unseen in
the various piles:
HP:
- several linear power supplies,
- K04-0980A Powerstat
- a gain phase meter (3575A?)
- 33120A function generator
- 3456A voltmeter
- a pair of 1662AS logic analyzers (with at least one keyboard and
one mouse...more I think)
- 8505A vector network analyzer with 8501 storage normalizer and
8503A S-parameter kit
Agilent:
- 1147A scope current probe (for the 3034T 'scope below)
- 34410A multimeter
- and maybe a scope in storage?? I need to check on that.
Keysight:
MSOX-3034T oscilloscope
Tektronix:
- approximately 0.42 container ships full of big iron piled
ceiling high in the living room
Random other MFG's:
- a pair of IBM Model M keyboards, one for work and one for home
(they count as boat anchors too!)
- generally too much stuff !!!
Might be interested in the model M keyboards--are they full size
(with numberpad to the right of direction arrow keys, or no
numberpad?
(Both were available, and I have one of each.) What are you asking
for one or two? (I'm on Long Island, for shipping.)
--doug
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The immediate goal is to get all of this off the floor and off the
benches so I can at least check functionality of everything.
Longer term I want to eliminate redundant gear and fill some holes
in the lab and then start playing with stuff again!
Cheers,
-Chris
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Real quick note.
I've gotten many inquiries on the Model M keyboards.
They are keepers...I use both of them every day.
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On November 8, 2021 10:27:59 AM "Chris Wilkson via groups.io" <cwilkson@...> wrote: Real quick note.
I've gotten many inquiries on the Model M keyboards.
They are keepers...I use both of them every day. Yeah I think many people inexplicably interpreted your initial post as "I want to get rid of all of this stuff". It was actually pretty clear that this was not your intention. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 07:29 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yeah I think many people inexplicably interpreted your initial post as "I want to get rid of all of this stuff". It was actually pretty clear that this was not your intention.
Some of it will go, some of it will stay.? I need to go through it to see what still working and how I can use it. First task is to get the 8505 set into a rack.? I have a rack to put it in, but I just realized that the gear only has handles and not rack flanges.? :( Anyone have some extra rack mount flanges for sale?For a 8501a, 8503a, and/or a 8505a? I don't know the PNs yet, but I will find them in the coming days.
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I have for the 8501a and 8503a?
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Den 10. nov. 2021 kl. 17.13 skrev Chris Wilkson via groups.io <cwilkson@...>:
?On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 07:29 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
Yeah I think many people inexplicably interpreted your initial post as "I want to get rid of all of this stuff". It was actually pretty clear that this was not your intention.
Some of it will go, some of it will stay.? I need to go through it to see what still working and how I can use it.
First task is to get the 8505 set into a rack.? I have a rack to put it in, but I just realized that the gear only has handles and not rack flanges.? :(
Anyone have some extra rack mount flanges for sale?
For a 8501a, 8503a, and/or a 8505a?
I don't know the PNs yet, but I will find them in the coming days.
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On 11/10/21 11:11 AM, Chris Wilkson via groups.io wrote: First task is to get the 8505 set into a rack.? I have a rack to put it in, but I just realized that the gear only has handles and not rack flanges.? :(
*Anyone have some extra rack mount flanges for sale?*
For a 8501a, 8503a, and/or a 8505a?
I don't know the PNs yet, but I will find them in the coming days. Don't worry too much about the part numbers for those rack mount ears, handles, etc. They are compatible across (nearly) everything that uses the System II enclosures, like the components of an 8505A. Just match the height. In an 8505A system, the RF and display sections are each 3U, and the storage/normalizer and S-parameter test set sections are each 2U. The mounting accessories (ears, handles, feet) are the same as just about everything else that uses a System II enclosure. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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There are at least two styles of handle and flange and they are NOT compatible.?
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:38 AM Dave McGuire < mcguire@...> wrote: On 11/10/21 11:11 AM, Chris Wilkson via wrote:
> First task is to get the 8505 set into a rack.? I have a rack to put it
> in, but I just realized that the gear only has handles and not rack
> flanges.? :(
>
> *Anyone have some extra rack mount flanges for sale?*
> For a 8501a, 8503a, and/or a 8505a?
>
> I don't know the PNs yet, but I will find them in the coming days.
? ?Don't worry too much about the part numbers for those rack mount
ears, handles, etc.? They are compatible across (nearly) everything that
uses the System II enclosures, like the components of an 8505A.? Just
match the height.? In an 8505A system, the RF and display sections are
each 3U, and the storage/normalizer and S-parameter test set sections
are each 2U.? The mounting accessories (ears, handles, feet) are the
same as just about everything else that uses a System II enclosure.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Two incompatible styles within System II enclosures? I thought at one time that I had run across one on which the handles I had on hand didn't fit, but I don't recall what it was. (this is why I said "nearly" all) Do you know offhand what model(s) are involved?
-Dave
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On 11/10/21 8:02 PM, peter bunge wrote: There are at least two styles of handle and flange and they are NOT compatible.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 11:38 AM Dave McGuire <mcguire@... <mailto:mcguire@...>> wrote:
On 11/10/21 11:11 AM, Chris Wilkson via groups.io <>
wrote:
> First task is to get the 8505 set into a rack.? I have a rack to
put it
> in, but I just realized that the gear only has handles and not rack
> flanges.? :(
>
> *Anyone have some extra rack mount flanges for sale?*
> For a 8501a, 8503a, and/or a 8505a?
>
> I don't know the PNs yet, but I will find them in the coming days.
? ?Don't worry too much about the part numbers for those rack mount
ears, handles, etc.? They are compatible across (nearly) everything
that
uses the System II enclosures, like the components of an 8505A.? Just
match the height.? In an 8505A system, the RF and display sections are
each 3U, and the storage/normalizer and S-parameter test set sections
are each 2U.? The mounting accessories (ears, handles, feet) are the
same as just about everything else that uses a System II enclosure.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? -Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
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Yes, there are some compatibility issues.? I have 1 pair of ears that won't work with the installed handles.? The cutout angle is too sharp.? These came extra in a bag with my 3456 meter and I was told they would work with the 850x gear.? They don't.
So I need to research the correct ears.? I have the original manuals for the VNA stack.? They should have the correct part numbers (I hope).? I just haven't had time to dig them out yet.
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On 11/16/21 12:06 AM, Chris Wilkson via groups.io wrote: Yes, there are some compatibility issues.? I have 1 pair of ears that won't work with the installed handles.? The cutout angle is too sharp. These came extra in a bag with my 3456 meter and I was told they would work with the 850x gear.? They don't. Are you sure they're actually HP System-II ears? Also, don't forget that there are two types of ears for System-II enclosures: one for use with handles, and the other without. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 05:55 AM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 11/16/21 12:06 AM, Chris Wilkson via groups.io wrote:
Yes, there are some compatibility issues.? I have 1 pair of ears that
won't work with the installed handles.? The cutout angle is too sharp.
These came extra in a bag with my 3456 meter and I was told they would
work with the 850x gear.? They don't.
Are you sure they're actually HP System-II ears?
Also, don't forget that there are two types of ears for System-II
enclosures: one for use with handles, and the other without.
No, I'm not sure.? They were loose in a bag with no identification. They look just like the ears on the 3456A meter which has handles and ears already installed. Is the 3456A meter a HP System-II enclosure?? How can I tell?? Sure as heck looks the same as the 850xA VNA stuff. I do know there are 2 types of ears. The ones I need have an acute angle cutout in the face that screws to the rack.? It's to accommodate the handles. The other type doesn't have that cutout (I think....I've not seen them in person). Cheers, Chris
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On 11/16/21 11:47 AM, Chris Wilkson via groups.io wrote: Yes, there are some compatibility issues.? I have 1 pair of ears
that
won't work with the installed handles.? The cutout angle is too
sharp.
These came extra in a bag with my 3456 meter and I was told they
would
work with the 850x gear.? They don't.
Are you sure they're actually HP System-II ears?
Also, don't forget that there are two types of ears for System-II
enclosures: one for use with handles, and the other without.
No, I'm not sure.? They were loose in a bag with no identification.
They look just like the ears on the 3456A meter which has handles and ears already installed.
Is the 3456A meter a HP System-II enclosure?? How can I tell?? Sure as heck looks the same as the 850xA VNA stuff. The 3456A is System-II. For an easily-Googlable example of a System-I enclosure, look up the HP 8640B. I do know there are 2 types of ears.
The ones I need have an acute angle cutout in the face that screws to the rack.? It's to accommodate the handles.
The other type doesn't have that cutout (I think....I've not seen them in person). Yes, that's correct. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA
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Today I ordered 4 sets of flanges directly from Keysight that I hope are the correct ones.? I used their Find-a-Part tool to trace from the original HP part #'s, through replacements, obsoletes, and rebadging PN changes to find these.? Part numbers are below. Flange kits for equipment that already has front handles:??
2U flanges only kit = 5063-9232
3U flanges only kit = 5063-9234
These are both still in production and can be ordered if not already in stock in Roseville.
They're new, so not cheap...but I need them badly enough to take a chance.? :( I will report back when they arrive....from Germany and Singapore (via California) hopefully in a couple of weeks.
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Hi just for interest how much where you quoted for them and art hay just rack flanges or do they include the handles Regards Paul ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wilkson via groups.io
Sent: 03 December 2021 22:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] New member intro ? Today I ordered 4 sets of flanges directly from Keysight that I hope are the correct ones.? I used their Find-a-Part tool to trace from the original HP part #'s, through replacements, obsoletes, and rebadging PN changes to find these.? Part numbers are below.
Flange kits for equipment that already has front handles:?? 2U flanges only kit = 5063-9232 3U flanges only kit = 5063-9234
These are both still in production and can be ordered if not already in stock in Roseville.
They're new, so not cheap...but I need them badly enough to take a chance.? :(
I will report back when they arrive....from Germany and Singapore (via California) hopefully in a couple of weeks.
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On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 02:59 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
Hi just for interest how much where you quoted for them and art hay just rack flanges or do they include the handles
Regards Paul
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wilkson via groups.io
Sent: 03 December 2021 22:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] New member intro
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Today I ordered 4 sets of flanges directly from Keysight that I hope are the correct ones.? I used their Find-a-Part tool to trace from the original HP part #'s, through replacements, obsoletes, and rebadging PN changes to find these.? Part numbers are below.
Flange kits for equipment that already has front handles:??
2U flanges only kit = 5063-9232
3U flanges only kit = 5063-9234
These are both still in production and can be ordered if not already in stock in Roseville.
They're new, so not cheap...but I need them badly enough to take a chance.? :(
I will report back when they arrive....from Germany and Singapore (via California) hopefully in a couple of weeks.
They were $277 (+tax + shipping) for 4 kits.? It's just the flanges + hardware.? No handles (which I already have).
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You do realize you can buy them from this group at about $20 a pair for handle plus bracket. (+ shipping) About the same on Ebay if you are patient.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 11:29 AM Chris Wilkson via <cwilkson= [email protected]> wrote: On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 02:59 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
Hi just for interest how much where you quoted for them and art hay just rack flanges or do they include the handles
Regards Paul
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Wilkson via
Sent: 03 December 2021 22:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] New member intro
?
Today I ordered 4 sets of flanges directly from Keysight that I hope are the correct ones.? I used their Find-a-Part tool to trace from the original HP part #'s, through replacements, obsoletes, and rebadging PN changes to find these.? Part numbers are below.
Flange kits for equipment that already has front handles:??
2U flanges only kit = 5063-9232
3U flanges only kit = 5063-9234
These are both still in production and can be ordered if not already in stock in Roseville.
They're new, so not cheap...but I need them badly enough to take a chance.? :(
I will report back when they arrive....from Germany and Singapore (via California) hopefully in a couple of weeks.
They were $277 (+tax + shipping) for 4 kits.? It's just the flanges + hardware.? No handles (which I already have).
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Paul Bicknell
Jeremy Nichols
Dave McGuire