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On buying gear. A happy story.


 


I see so many folks post sad stories here or other places about buying something or other off of ebay, at a flea market, or wherever that didn't turn out well. So, I thought I would relate at least one happy tale.

A couple of weeks ago I spotted an HP 5351B on ebay listed as 'as is, fails on power up' for $150 or best offer. I made an offer that was refused, so I waited. It relisted twice with a 'buy it now' price a few $ lower each time. So I made an offer on it that was $30 less than my first offer, and it was accepted.

Based on the very loose description, the pictures of a nice looking unit with cal stickers in place, my thinking was that it couldn't be too much of oa project. Maybe re-cap, maybe replace a board, or if I was lucky, something even simpler. Even if it was a total basket case, the 10MHz ovenized oscillator was worth more than I paid for the unit.

I got lucky. Unit arrived, relatively well packed, though still with styrofoam peanuts, and undamaged. I dragged it up to the workbench and plugged it in. I was greeted with 'FAIL TIMEBASE' and a diag code. I poked at it for a few minutes, then got called away to dinner with $SPOUSE.

Over dinner, I got thinking about it and decided on a simple check. Got home, hooked the bench standard up to the 10MHz reference in and 990MHZ from the 8657A up and powered it on. Poof. 990.000.342 on the display. Looks like this unit wants to have the ref out looped back to the ref in or get a 10MHz reference. Not the first time I've seen this 'failure' mode. So for under $100+rational shipping, I now have a 26GHz counter.

Not the first time one of these kinds of things has been found, sure won't be the last, but for me, I've had far more winners than loosers on this kind of speculation. In fact, I think the only boat anchor was the 8620 sweeper.

To, for every sad story, know there are a few happy ones. And feel free to bid on 5351Bs, I've got mine. ;)

Bob


 

I bought, for a token bid, a Gigatronics power meter on ebay from a test equipment vendor.
It was listed as will not power up.
Received it in good condition and placed it on the bench.
Plugged it in and sure enough it did not power up.
Checked the 110/220 Volt switch and it was in the 220 position.
Moved it to 110 and tried again.
Still no display.
I did not have a manual, but, noticed a contrast control on the back.
I moved the control and now have a very good display.
And, the power meter has worked fine since.

I was pleasantly surprised as this was from a test equipment vendor.

Glenn

On 7/18/2017 10:23 PM, Bob Bownes bownes@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
I see so many folks post sad stories here or other places about buying something or other off of ebay, at a flea market, or wherever that didn't turn out well. So, I thought I would relate at least one happy tale.
A couple of weeks ago I spotted an HP 5351B on ebay listed as 'as is, fails on power up' for $150 or best offer. I made an offer that was refused, so I waited. It relisted twice with a 'buy it now' price a few $ lower each time. So I made an offer on it that was $30 less than my first offer, and it was accepted.
Based on the very loose description, the pictures of a nice looking unit with cal stickers in place, my thinking was that it couldn't be too much of oa project. Maybe re-cap, maybe replace a board, or if I was lucky, something even simpler. Even if it was a total basket case, the 10MHz ovenized oscillator was worth more than I paid for the unit.
I got lucky. Unit arrived, relatively well packed, though still with styrofoam peanuts, and undamaged. I dragged it up to the workbench and plugged it in. I was greeted with 'FAIL TIMEBASE' and a diag code. I poked at it for a few minutes, then got called away to dinner with $SPOUSE.
Over dinner, I got thinking about it and decided on a simple check. Got home, hooked the bench standard up to the 10MHz reference in and 990MHZ from the 8657A up and powered it on. Poof. 990.000.342 on the display. Looks like this unit wants to have the ref out looped back to the ref in or get a 10MHz reference. Not the first time I've seen this 'failure' mode.! So for under $100+rational shipping, I now have a 26GHz counter.
Not the first time one of these kinds of things has been found, sure won't be the last, but for me, I've had far more winners than loosers on this kind of speculation. In fact, I think the only boat anchor was the 8620 sweeper.
To, for every sad story, know there are a few happy ones. And feel free to bid on 5351Bs, I've got mine. ;)
Bob
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Roy Morgan
 

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Bob Bownes bownes@... wrote:
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I see so many folks post sad stories here or other places about buying something or other off of ebay, ... So, I thought I would relate at least one happy tale:

I can add another: I had watched for an "affordable" HP 8601 sweep generator on eBay for a long time when one finally showed up at a very modest buy-it-now price, described as "Doesn't Power Up".

I thought, "power transformer, or line switch - a gamble, but worth it."? It turned out to be the power switch!

Sooo... I'm now looking for a replacement switch (the white push button kind with the lamp inside) and still hoping a squirt of De-Oxit through a drilled hole will make this one work.

Yes, I missed the very cheap companion 8600 marker generator last week.? Sigh.












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


 

Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?

Jeremy?
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 9:53 AM Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

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On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Bob Bownes bownes@... wrote:
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I see so many folks post sad stories here or other places about buying something or other off of ebay, ... So, I thought I would relate at least one happy tale:

I can add another: I had watched for an "affordable" HP 8601 sweep generator on eBay for a long time when one finally showed up at a very modest buy-it-now price, described as "Doesn't Power Up".

I thought, "power transformer, or line switch - a gamble, but worth it."? It turned out to be the power switch!

Sooo... I'm now looking for a replacement switch (the white push button kind with the lamp inside) and still hoping a squirt of De-Oxit through a drilled hole will make this one work.

Yes, I missed the very cheap companion 8600 marker generator last week.? Sigh.












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958

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Roy Morgan
 

Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email.? As I said, there was an 8600 for sale recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it.? One other is offered at some $500.? Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.? I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have *tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

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Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
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4.




--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


 

Roy,

My 8600A is serial number 2048A01572. It is complete and undamaged. I need to clean it up, put feet on it, etc., and make sure it still works¡ªhas been on the shelf for years! Also included is the factory operation/service manual, an Ed Matsuda copy with a plastic spiral binding.

How about $125 and I'll pack and ship it for free?

Jeremy
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email.? As I said, there was an 8600 for sale recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it.? One other is offered at some $500.? Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.? I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have *tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
--
4.




--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958



Roy Morgan
 

Jeremy,

Ok sounds good.? Thanks.
Address is
Roy Morgan
PO Box 101
Bernardston
MA. 01337

Physical address is 18 Center Street in? case shippper can't send box to Post office.

Glad to see there is a manual... I have lost track of the suggested web sites that were mentioned on the HP list.

Thanks - more tomorrow or tonight... got to get food before a meeting.

Thanks much.. that thing will make my radio alignments MUCH easier.





On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Roy,

My 8600A is serial number 2048A01572. It is complete and undamaged. I need to clean it up, put feet on it, etc., and make sure it still works¡ªhas been on the shelf for years! Also included is the factory operation/service manual, an Ed Matsuda copy with a plastic spiral binding.

How about $125 and I'll pack and ship it for free?

Jeremy
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email.? As I said, there was an 8600 for sale recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it.? One other is offered at some $500.? Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.? I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have *tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
--
4.




--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958





--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


 

Hope the meeting goes well. Being retired here, I got roped into several volunteer organizations and spend more time in meetings than I did when I was working!

I'll send pictures of the 8600A.

Jeremy

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Jeremy,

Ok sounds good.? Thanks.
Address is
Roy Morgan
PO Box 101
Bernardston
MA. 01337

Physical address is 18 Center Street in? case shippper can't send box to Post office.

Glad to see there is a manual... I have lost track of the suggested web sites that were mentioned on the HP list.

Thanks - more tomorrow or tonight... got to get food before a meeting.

Thanks much.. that thing will make my radio alignments MUCH easier.






On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Roy,

My 8600A is serial number 2048A01572. It is complete and undamaged. I need to clean it up, put feet on it, etc., and make sure it still works¡ªhas been on the shelf for years! Also included is the factory operation/service manual, an Ed Matsuda copy with a plastic spiral binding.

How about $125 and I'll pack and ship it for free?

Jeremy
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email.? As I said, there was an 8600 for sale recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it.? One other is offered at some $500.? Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.? I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have *tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
--
4.




--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958





--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958



Roy Morgan
 

Jeremy,

Thanks, the meeting was about A Course In Miracles... my senior citizen efforts at spirituality ?

Thanks for pictures - I would like to have found a manual before leaving the library and internet access tonight but could not... maybe tomorrow mid day I will find one online to read about the thing.

thanks,
Roy


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Hope the meeting goes well. Being retired here, I got roped into several volunteer organizations and spend more time in meetings than I did when I was working!

I'll send pictures of the 8600A.

Jeremy

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Jeremy,

Ok sounds good.? Thanks.
Address is
Roy Morgan
PO Box 101
Bernardston
MA. 01337

Physical address is 18 Center Street in? case shippper can't send box to Post office.

Glad to see there is a manual... I have lost track of the suggested web sites that were mentioned on the HP list.

Thanks - more tomorrow or tonight... got to get food before a meeting.

Thanks much.. that thing will make my radio alignments MUCH easier.






On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Roy,

My 8600A is serial number 2048A01572. It is complete and undamaged. I need to clean it up, put feet on it, etc., and make sure it still works¡ªhas been on the shelf for years! Also included is the factory operation/service manual, an Ed Matsuda copy with a plastic spiral binding.

How about $125 and I'll pack and ship it for free?

Jeremy
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email.? As I said, there was an 8600 for sale recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it.? One other is offered at some $500.? Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.? I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have *tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
?

Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
--
4.




--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958





--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958





--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


 

OK, it works. Here is a picture of my 8601A and the 8600A looking at a 32 MHz Lo-pass filter on my 175A scope.?



On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:57 PM Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

?

Jeremy,

Thanks, the meeting was about A Course In Miracles... my senior citizen efforts at spirituality ?

Thanks for pictures - I would like to have found a manual before leaving the library and internet access tonight but could not... maybe tomorrow mid day I will find one online to read about the thing.

thanks,
Roy


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
?

Hope the meeting goes well. Being retired here, I got roped into several volunteer organizations and spend more time in meetings than I did when I was working!

I'll send pictures of the 8600A.

Jeremy

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
?

Jeremy,

Ok sounds good.? Thanks.
Address is
Roy Morgan
PO Box 101
Bernardston
MA. 01337

Physical address is 18 Center Street in? case shippper can't send box to Post office.

Glad to see there is a manual... I have lost track of the suggested web sites that were mentioned on the HP list.

Thanks - more tomorrow or tonight... got to get food before a meeting.

Thanks much.. that thing will make my radio alignments MUCH easier.






On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
?

Roy,

My 8600A is serial number 2048A01572. It is complete and undamaged. I need to clean it up, put feet on it, etc., and make sure it still works¡ªhas been on the shelf for years! Also included is the factory operation/service manual, an Ed Matsuda copy with a plastic spiral binding.

How about $125 and I'll pack and ship it for free?

Jeremy
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
?

Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email.? As I said, there was an 8600 for sale recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it.? One other is offered at some $500.? Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.? I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have *tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
?

Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.?












--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
--
4.




--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958





--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958





--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958

--
4.


 

Oops, pressed the wrong key.

Picture. The intensified marker shows 33.423 MHz at the bottom just before
the sweep makes its big rise. (The detector in the circuit has a negative
output.) See Figure 3-2 on page 3-3 when you get the manual.


All five markers work correctly. Looks like it needs only feet and cleaning
to be ready for you.



I need to sell the 8601A too but it may have an output problem. Don't know
if I can fix it.

Jeremy



On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:36 PM Jeremy Nichols <jn6wfo@...> wrote:

OK, it works. Here is a picture of my 8601A and the 8600A looking at a 32
MHz Lo-pass filter on my 175A scope.



On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:57 PM Roy Morgan k1lky68@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Jeremy,

Thanks, the meeting was about A Course In Miracles... my senior citizen
efforts at spirituality ?

Thanks for pictures - I would like to have found a manual before leaving
the library and internet access tonight but could not... maybe tomorrow mid
day I will find one online to read about the thing.

thanks,
Roy


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Hope the meeting goes well. Being retired here, I got roped into several
volunteer organizations and spend more time in meetings than I did when I
was working!

I'll send pictures of the 8600A.

Jeremy

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:48 PM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Jeremy,

Ok sounds good. Thanks.
Address is
Roy Morgan
PO Box 101
Bernardston
MA. 01337

Physical address is 18 Center Street in case shippper can't send box
to Post office.

Glad to see there is a manual... I have lost track of the suggested web
sites that were mentioned on the HP list.

Thanks - more tomorrow or tonight... got to get food before a meeting.

Thanks much.. that thing will make my radio alignments MUCH easier.






On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Roy,

My 8600A is serial number 2048A01572. It is complete and undamaged. I
need to clean it up, put feet on it, etc., and make sure it still works¡ªhas
been on the shelf for years! Also included is the factory operation/service
manual, an Ed Matsuda copy with a plastic spiral binding.

How about $125 and I'll pack and ship it for free?

Jeremy
N6WFO


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Roy Morgan k1lky68@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Jeremy,

Hi, and thanks for the email. As I said, there was an 8600 for sale
recently at a very low price (fifty dollars!!) and I missed seeing it. One
other is offered at some $500. Ugh.

Anyway, if you have one, do let me know what you might want for it.
I do appreciate the possibility.

PS: If you see some garbage at the bottom of this message, I have
*tried* to delete it - I just upgraded my operating system (Mac Book) and
the editing is acting strangely.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Nichols jn6wfo@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Roy, I have a surplus 8600A. Please contact me off line.


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--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958
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Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


--
Regards,
Roy

Roy Morgan
k1lky since 1958


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