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HP8593A Power Supply repair


 

Hello all.

First - please excuse my bad English.

I am going to share my experience to restore defective HP8593A Power Supply
(PS). Nothing useful found in the net...except: you
can send PS for repair or buy another one from Ebay.Not reasonable for me,
so I decide to repair my self.

Looking today at mine notes I see I could write more details, but it is
late...PS already repaired, assembled and installed.
During time of repair I had no idea my experience can be shared with you...I
was very depressed/worried to return my SA to live.

Will send today pdf file in Files area with my personal hand made schematics
and pictures about this named HP8593A Power Supply repair. I believe
information there could be helpful for some of you.

Some notes:
1. Original manufacturer: MICRO Energy INC p/n 10-0060 , HP p/n 0950-1977
2. Due hand made schematics drawn from PCB's it is possible to have
errors.Schematics are partial for control part of PS and
pictures are not very good.
3. Pinout's of PS J13 DB37 connector:
+15V - 1,2,3,20,21,22
- 15V - 4,5,6,23,24,25
+ 5V - 9,10,11,12,28,29,30,31
+12V - 13,32
Fan - 7
Analog GND - 7,26,27
Digital GND - 14,15,16,17,33,34,35,36
LINE_TRIG - 18
HPWRUP - 37
LPWRON - 19
4. PS has standby power supply designed by UC3842 and P2N85 producing +18V
and *always ON.*
5. To switch PS ON connect pin 19 (J13) to GND.
6. PS need minimum 50% of nominal load current of any voltage to produce
correct +5.2V.
7. Not clear for me how +5.2V regulator works.For what is transistor TIP30C
?
*8. When two PCB's are removed from box you have to connect four GND points
with additional wires during repair time.
See diagram.* *Two parts of metal box are used as GND wire. Due this
all PCB screw have to be installed and well
tighten when you finish repair.*
9. When assembly PS after repair be careful with:
- one of six screw for mounting of radiator is *shorter! *See drawing.
- remember how connector DB37 was. It must be uppermost when assembly
back. See drawing.

Feel free to ask for questions and good luck !

Regards and 73

Roumen / LZ3RV


 

Hello all,

Due to our "Files" area restriction ( it is full ) I can not upload what I
promised few hours ago. Sorry !
In any case I will send to anyone who wish. Just ask.

Regards.
Roumen / LZ3RV

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Roumen Velev <roumen.velev@...>wrote:

Hello all.

First - please excuse my bad English.

I am going to share my experience to restore defective HP8593A Power Supply
(PS). Nothing useful found in the net...except: you
can send PS for repair or buy another one from Ebay.Not reasonable for me,
so I decide to repair my self.

Looking today at mine notes I see I could write more details, but it is
late...PS already repaired, assembled and installed.
During time of repair I had no idea my experience can be shared with
you...I was very depressed/worried to return my SA to live.

Will send today pdf file in Files area with my personal hand made
schematics and pictures about this named HP8593A Power Supply repair. I
believe information there could be helpful for some of you.

Some notes:
1. Original manufacturer: MICRO Energy INC p/n 10-0060 , HP p/n 0950-1977
2. Due hand made schematics drawn from PCB's it is possible to have
errors.Schematics are partial for control part of PS and
pictures are not very good.
3. Pinout's of PS J13 DB37 connector:
+15V - 1,2,3,20,21,22
- 15V - 4,5,6,23,24,25
+ 5V - 9,10,11,12,28,29,30,31
+12V - 13,32
Fan - 7
Analog GND - 7,26,27
Digital GND - 14,15,16,17,33,34,35,36
LINE_TRIG - 18
HPWRUP - 37
LPWRON - 19
4. PS has standby power supply designed by UC3842 and P2N85 producing +18V
and *always ON.*
5. To switch PS ON connect pin 19 (J13) to GND.
6. PS need minimum 50% of nominal load current of any voltage to produce
correct +5.2V.
7. Not clear for me how +5.2V regulator works.For what is transistor TIP30C
?
*8. When two PCB's are removed from box you have to connect four GND
points with additional wires during repair time.
See diagram.* *Two parts of metal box are used as GND wire. Due this
all PCB screw have to be installed and well
tighten when you finish repair.*
9. When assembly PS after repair be careful with:
- one of six screw for mounting of radiator is *shorter! *See drawing.
- remember how connector DB37 was. It must be uppermost when assembly
back. See drawing.

Feel free to ask for questions and good luck !

Regards and 73

Roumen / LZ3RV



Artekmedia
 

Upload it to KO4BB.com....

On 8/30/2011 9:07 AM, Roumen Velev wrote:

Hello all,

Due to our "Files" area restriction ( it is full ) I can not upload what I
promised few hours ago. Sorry !
In any case I will send to anyone who wish. Just ask.

Regards.
Roumen / LZ3RV

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Roumen Velev <roumen.velev@...
<mailto:roumen.velev%40gmail.com>>wrote:

Hello all.

First - please excuse my bad English.

I am going to share my experience to restore defective HP8593A Power
Supply
(PS). Nothing useful found in the net...except: you
can send PS for repair or buy another one from Ebay.Not reasonable
for me,
so I decide to repair my self.

Looking today at mine notes I see I could write more details, but it is
late...PS already repaired, assembled and installed.
During time of repair I had no idea my experience can be shared with
you...I was very depressed/worried to return my SA to live.

Will send today pdf file in Files area with my personal hand made
schematics and pictures about this named HP8593A Power Supply repair. I
believe information there could be helpful for some of you.

Some notes:
1. Original manufacturer: MICRO Energy INC p/n 10-0060 , HP p/n
0950-1977
2. Due hand made schematics drawn from PCB's it is possible to have
errors.Schematics are partial for control part of PS and
pictures are not very good.
3. Pinout's of PS J13 DB37 connector:
+15V - 1,2,3,20,21,22
- 15V - 4,5,6,23,24,25
+ 5V - 9,10,11,12,28,29,30,31
+12V - 13,32
Fan - 7
Analog GND - 7,26,27
Digital GND - 14,15,16,17,33,34,35,36
LINE_TRIG - 18
HPWRUP - 37
LPWRON - 19
4. PS has standby power supply designed by UC3842 and P2N85
producing +18V
and *always ON.*
5. To switch PS ON connect pin 19 (J13) to GND.
6. PS need minimum 50% of nominal load current of any voltage to produce
correct +5.2V.
7. Not clear for me how +5.2V regulator works.For what is transistor
TIP30C
?
*8. When two PCB's are removed from box you have to connect four GND
points with additional wires during repair time.
See diagram.* *Two parts of metal box are used as GND wire. Due this
all PCB screw have to be installed and well
tighten when you finish repair.*
9. When assembly PS after repair be careful with:
- one of six screw for mounting of radiator is *shorter! *See drawing.
- remember how connector DB37 was. It must be uppermost when assembly
back. See drawing.

Feel free to ask for questions and good luck !

Regards and 73

Roumen / LZ3RV




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Manuals@...
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PO Box 175
Welch,MN 55089


 

Hello KO4BB,

Thanks for invitation. Upload done.

Regards/Roumen
LZ3RV

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Artekmedia <manuals@...> wrote:

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Upload it to KO4BB.com....


On 8/30/2011 9:07 AM, Roumen Velev wrote:

Hello all,

Due to our "Files" area restriction ( it is full ) I can not upload what
I
promised few hours ago. Sorry !
In any case I will send to anyone who wish. Just ask.

Regards.
Roumen / LZ3RV

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Roumen Velev <roumen.velev@...
<mailto:roumen.velev%40gmail.com>>wrote:

Hello all.

First - please excuse my bad English.

I am going to share my experience to restore defective HP8593A Power
Supply
(PS). Nothing useful found in the net...except: you
can send PS for repair or buy another one from Ebay.Not reasonable
for me,
so I decide to repair my self.

Looking today at mine notes I see I could write more details, but it is
late...PS already repaired, assembled and installed.
During time of repair I had no idea my experience can be shared with
you...I was very depressed/worried to return my SA to live.

Will send today pdf file in Files area with my personal hand made
schematics and pictures about this named HP8593A Power Supply repair. I
believe information there could be helpful for some of you.

Some notes:
1. Original manufacturer: MICRO Energy INC p/n 10-0060 , HP p/n
0950-1977
2. Due hand made schematics drawn from PCB's it is possible to have
errors.Schematics are partial for control part of PS and
pictures are not very good.
3. Pinout's of PS J13 DB37 connector:
+15V - 1,2,3,20,21,22
- 15V - 4,5,6,23,24,25
+ 5V - 9,10,11,12,28,29,30,31
+12V - 13,32
Fan - 7
Analog GND - 7,26,27
Digital GND - 14,15,16,17,33,34,35,36
LINE_TRIG - 18
HPWRUP - 37
LPWRON - 19
4. PS has standby power supply designed by UC3842 and P2N85
producing +18V
and *always ON.*
5. To switch PS ON connect pin 19 (J13) to GND.
6. PS need minimum 50% of nominal load current of any voltage to
produce
correct +5.2V.
7. Not clear for me how +5.2V regulator works.For what is transistor
TIP30C
?
*8. When two PCB's are removed from box you have to connect four GND
points with additional wires during repair time.
See diagram.* *Two parts of metal box are used as GND wire. Due this
all PCB screw have to be installed and well
tighten when you finish repair.*
9. When assembly PS after repair be careful with:
- one of six screw for mounting of radiator is *shorter! *See drawing.
- remember how connector DB37 was. It must be uppermost when assembly
back. See drawing.

Feel free to ask for questions and good luck !

Regards and 73

Roumen / LZ3RV


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--
Dave& Lynn Henderson
Manuals@...
www.Artekmedia.com
PO Box 175
Welch,MN 55089

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Clint
 

Hello Roumen,
I have just found your post about the MicroEnergy PSU unit for a HP8593A with P/N 0950-1977, I think you have "hand drawn" a circuit diagram, excellent, I have been thinking to do the same as I still have a Faulty Power Supply here, if you do not mind can you send me your drawings please, many thanks!

Clint - VK3CSJ
Melbourne


 

Hello Clint,

Have them sent to your personal mail.

Regards.
Roumen / LZ3RV

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Clint <clintonjeffrey1@...> wrote:

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Hello Roumen,
I have just found your post about the MicroEnergy PSU unit for a HP8593A
with P/N 0950-1977, I think you have "hand drawn" a circuit diagram,
excellent, I have been thinking to do the same as I still have a Faulty
Power Supply here, if you do not mind can you send me your drawings please,
many thanks!

Clint - VK3CSJ
Melbourne



 

If you still have this information, would you send me what? you have.
Thanks
Hank
KZ4HE


 

Hi Hank ,

All I have will send to your personal E-mail.

Regards / Roumen
LZ3RV

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 7:52 PM, weyster@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
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If you still have this information, would you send me what? you have.
Thanks
Hank
KZ4HE



 

Hi Roumen,?

I have just acquired a HP8593A with a PSU that is not working. If you still have your documentation, would you mind sending it to me.

One of the components have blown and hopefully you have the part number in your partial schematic.

Thanks,
Greg


 

Hi Greg,

All I have already sent to your personal E-mail.
Wish you success !

Regards / Roumen
LZ3RV, Sofia, Bulgaria


 

Hi Roumen,

I too have a 8593A and there is no display. HPWRUP signal (5V) comes for a second and goes down to zero after Power On. All the supply LEDs are glowing. However the +5.2 V drops to about 4V. I am unable to understand whether this is power supply issue or motherboard issue. What is the function of Line trigger? and is 2.5V on this terminal OK, if you remember.

Please send the schematic on my e-mail id. Thanks for your favour.

kailashkhairnar@...
kailashkhairnar@...

Regards,
Kailash Khairnar
India


 

Hi all,

Update:

Symptom: No display in HP8593A with low supply rail (+5V) after initial power up. I tested the power supply on bench with 2.5A load on +5V, 0.8A each on +/- 15V. The power supply was up and running fine. Short Pin 19 with 17 to bring on PS. There was no fault in any of the electrolytics.

So prepared Power supply extension cable (1 mtr length) ?for the 37 pin D-connector as it was not feasible to test the voltages on pins. And voila!! the spectrum was up and running. I switched it off and on several times to confirm the power supply was not in fault.

The HPWRUP signal from power supply(Pin 37) to Controller board feeds 74HC14 gate and o/p is again inverted by 2-i/p distinct nand gates to obtain LRST and LHLT signals to the processor. When the CPU is halted the current drawn falls below the PS required threshold and hence the PS stops regulating.

1. It was the Power supply unit connector fault and several attempts were made to onstall the P/S but the result was not consistent sometimes the SA would come ON and some times not. There was loose connection in the mating 37-pin D-connectors. The D-connector on the P/S unit mounting was then bent outwards by about 2mm to ensure proper mating, but then that lost flexibility of adjusting the connectors mating. The Connector on the Power supply can move about 3-4mm sideways to ensure the mating on the main board. That was not a problem as once installed there is no need to move the power supply again till it fails.

Line trigger is the signal used by the SA in its trigger function. Thanks for the one who made the circuit schematic available of the board. Thanks Roumen for the schematic of Power supply.

Thanks for your inputs.


Regards,
Kailash Khairnar

On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 9:48 AM, AMiTHA <amitha.my@...> wrote:
Hi,

Looking at your problem indicates maybe the filter Capacitor's ESR might be high, try changing the Filter Caps and see if you can bring up the supply back to 5.2V, most logic circuits will work intermittently when the supply drops below 4.8V.

Good Luck?
Amitha?

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:09 PM, kailashkhairnar@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
?

Hi Roumen,


I too have a 8593A and there is no display. HPWRUP signal (5V) comes for a second and goes down to zero after Power On. All the supply LEDs are glowing. However the +5.2 V drops to about 4V. I am unable to understand whether this is power supply issue or motherboard issue. What is the function of Line trigger? and is 2.5V on this terminal OK, if you remember.

Please send the schematic on my e-mail id. Thanks for your favour.


Regards,
Kailash Khairnar
India




 

Roumen,

????? I would like to have a copy of the power supply schematics if it is possible.? My HP8591A has the low 5.2 volt supply problem that others have mentioned.? I am very experienced in this type of electronics and I would like to find a solution that is lasting and that I can share with others.

??????We have a family friend in Burgas and relatives in Russia, we are in the US.

?

Ted


John
 

see msg# 67510 in the group messages..

Regards John

On 17-Feb-16 5:00:31 AM, newsong777@... [hp_agilent_equipment] (hp_agilent_equipment@...) wrote:
Roumen,
I would like to have a copy of the power supply schematics if it is possible. My HP8591A has the low 5.2 volt supply problem that others have mentioned. I am very experienced in this type of electronics and I would like to find a solution that is lasting and that I can share with others.
We have a family friend in Burgas and relatives in Russia, we are in the US.

Ted
Posted by: newsong777@...

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Hi Ted,

Hand made diagrams sent to your personal Email.
Wish you success.

Regards/Roumen
LZ3RV
Sofia, Bulgaria


 

John,
??? Thank you for your help.
Ted



From: "John gielisj@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP8593A Power Supply repair

see msg# 67510 in the group messages..

Regards John
> On 17-Feb-16 5:00:31 AM, newsong777@... [hp_agilent_equipment] (hp_agilent_equipment@...) wrote:
> > Roumen,
>? ? ? I would like to have a copy of the power supply schematics if it is possible.? My HP8591A has the low 5.2 volt supply problem that others have mentioned.? I am very experienced in this type of electronics and I would like to find a solution that is lasting and that I can share with others.
>? ? ? We have a family friend in Burgas and relatives in Russia, we are in the US.
>
> Ted
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Roumen,
???? Thank you for your help and for the schematic.? I know that you put a lot of reverse-engineer time in on that power supply.? I also found the 5.2 volt supply to be an enigma.? I have never seen anything like it.? In order to understand it, some more information is needed.? I will let you know what I come up with.
???? I like to create circuits that do not work and place them in tests to be given to potential employees.? This looks almost like one of those.

Ted



From: "roumen.velev@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:08 AM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP8593A Power Supply repair

?
Hi Ted,

Hand made diagrams sent to your personal Email.
Wish you success.

Regards/Roumen
LZ3RV
Sofia, Bulgaria



 

No guarantees on this schematic. Best thing that I could come up with for these spectrum analyzers.

HP / Agilent / Keysight seems to want to keep these things a secret.

John, Vista, CA WB6IQS

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Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP8593A Power Supply repair
To: "hp_agilent_equipment@..." <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Date: Friday, February 19, 2016, 2:31 PM

John,???
Thank you for your
help.Ted


From: "John
gielisj@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
<hp_agilent_equipment@...>
To:
hp_agilent_equipment@...

Sent: Tuesday,
February 16, 2016 8:36 PM
Subject: Re:
[hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP8593A Power Supply repair

see msg# 67510 in the group messages..

Regards John
> On 17-Feb-16 5:00:31 AM, newsong777@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] (hp_agilent_equipment@...)
wrote:
> > Roumen,

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On 2/19/2016 6:18 PM, wb6iqs@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
No guarantees on this schematic. Best thing that I could come up with
for these spectrum analyzers.

HP / Agilent / Keysight seems to want to keep these things a secret.

John, Vista, CA WB6IQS

John

I don't think HP /Agilent was keeping them secret for some revenue generating purpose I suspect that since these power supplies were provided by a 3rd party and weren't an HP design that they were bound by a legal "non-disclosure agreement" with the supplier not to publish the schematic

Dave
ArtekManuals
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Steve Reeves
 

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Probably the same for the display module.

Steve

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On Feb 19, 2016, at 7:37 PM, "Artek Manuals manuals@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

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On 2/19/2016 6:18 PM, wb6iqs@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
> No guarantees on this schematic. Best thing that I could come up with
> for these spectrum analyzers.
>
> HP / Agilent / Keysight seems to want to keep these things a secret.
>
> John, Vista, CA WB6IQS
>
>

John

I don't think HP /Agilent was keeping them secret for some revenue
generating purpose I suspect that since these power supplies were
provided by a 3rd party and weren't an HP design that they were bound by
a legal "non-disclosure agreement" with the supplier not to publish the
schematic

Dave
ArtekManuals
>

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