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need app notes on HP 3582a
I'm looking for any kind of a copy of App Note 245-3 and Understanding
the HP 3582A Spectrum Analyer part no. 5952-8773. I'll take anything, regardless of condition as long as it's readable. I'll take any help I can get in operating this unit. Any tips on use or the app notes appreciated. I just got the op and svc manual CD off eBay but I really need the app notes or an experienced users guidance. tnx Hank wd5jfr |
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Re: HP8601A
cross over distortion in the output amp??
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From: wd4ohd To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP8601A My scope does not have a 50 ohm input. If I connect the generator output to a BNC T-connector with a 50 ohm termination on the other end, it makes no difference in the waveform shape. I've probably overstated the distortion a bit. I looked at it again this evening and it is not quite as I had described it earlier. The waveform is fairly rounded however when it approaches the peaks. --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., J Forster <jfor@...> wrote: > > Is your scope 50 ohm input or do you have a 50 ohm termination in > circuit? > > -John > > > > I've recently acquired an HP8601A sweep generator with full manual. It > > appears to be in pretty good shape. A cursory inspection suggests > everything is working about right, although I haven't run any > calibration checks yet. Just one problem I can see so far. When I > connect the RF output to the vertical input of my oscilloscope and set > > it to the CW function, I get a rather odd-shaped sine wave--not your > usual well-shaped waveform but more like two connected U-shapes for > each > half-cycle. I'm guessing this is not normal and there's some sort of > distortion being introduced in one of the oscillators or their amps or > > control circuits. Anyone have any experience with a problem like this > or > have a suggestion about what might be going on? Thanks in advance for > any input. > |
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Re: HP8601A
My scope does not have a 50 ohm input. If I connect the generator
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output to a BNC T-connector with a 50 ohm termination on the other end, it makes no difference in the waveform shape. I've probably overstated the distortion a bit. I looked at it again this evening and it is not quite as I had described it earlier. The waveform is fairly rounded however when it approaches the peaks. --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., J Forster <jfor@...> wrote:
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HP8601A
J Forster
Is your scope 50 ohm input or do you have a 50 ohm termination in
circuit? -John I've recently acquired an HP8601A sweep generator with full manual. It appears to be in pretty good shape. A cursory inspection suggests everything is working about right, although I haven't run any calibration checks yet. Just one problem I can see so far. When I connect the RF output to the vertical input of my oscilloscope and set it to the CW function, I get a rather odd-shaped sine wave--not your usual well-shaped waveform but more like two connected U-shapes for each half-cycle. I'm guessing this is not normal and there's some sort of distortion being introduced in one of the oscillators or their amps or control circuits. Anyone have any experience with a problem like this or have a suggestion about what might be going on? Thanks in advance for any input. |
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HP8601A
I've recently acquired an HP8601A sweep generator with full manual. It appears to be in pretty good shape. A cursory inspection suggests everything is working about right, although I haven't run any calibration checks yet. Just one problem I can see so far. When I connect the RF output to the vertical input of my oscilloscope and set it to the CW function, I get a rather odd-shaped sine wave--not your usual well-shaped waveform but more like two connected U-shapes for each half-cycle. I'm guessing this is not normal and there's some sort of distortion being introduced in one of the oscillators or their amps or control circuits. Anyone have any experience with a problem like this or have a suggestion about what might be going on? Thanks in advance for any input.
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HSDI, HP9417, HP9418 and HP9419
I currently work at KSC, Florida in the NSLD (overhaul and maintenance
of orbiter electronics). We use an ATE that is primarily HP equipment, granted OLDer equipment. Several components are pivotal for this system to work and interface with other vital components such as the HP computer and ITA for interface with ETU and flight LRU's. These are the HSDI interface cards (HP part# 94176A) and the HP9417/9418/9419 pattern generator/analyzer/guided probe system. The HSDI cards were actually built by Hunter Technology, from what we know, to interface with HP and Interface Technology components. The HP9417/9418/9419 components were built by Interface Technology with HP faceplates (known as TS- 4024, reference ). We are currently having intermittent HSDI connectivity issues and also some HP9417 processing issues. Of course, our spare parts are dwindling as is support. We are working with Interface Technology, they are helping but their door is closing soon. Does anyone out there have knowledge of HSDI in the context of interfacing Interface Technology components to HP components? This seems to be a bit of a puzzle and 'hidden' talent out there. I have tried HParchives and Agilent archives/obsolete manual sites, and have been recommended to try asking on here. thanks, Todd Lineback Avionics Engineer KSC, Florida |
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Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
MKawasaki
Mike, now you're asking for something even older than my Agilent/HP
career :-) I'll ask if they have some old 163X software available. I looked on our obsolete FTP site from this division (in Colorado Springs) and there weren't any files. It doesn't hurt to ask. Mike --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Mike <erazmus@...> wrote: were weeksnot on the Agilent.com home page. The Logic Analyzer Division has haveto month. older 1631A/Dbeen influential in getting the divisions to agree to this work.Fantastic news Mike, so I can access my 9122 floppy drive via HPIB - ie. To load uPfiles and format the floppies to save screen dumps etc ?40yahoogroups.com>hp_agilent_equipment@..., Mike <erazmus@> <<>>wrote:who has www.hp1652bmanual.com/ in developmentdevelopmentRegards* Twin tyres for most sedans, trikes and motorcycle sidecars * Twin tyres for most sedans, trikes and motorcycle sidecars |
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Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
MKawasaki
Phil, I'll ask the division to post both documents. I'm sure
they're arouond somewhere on an old FTP site. Mike --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Philip Pemberton <ygroups@...> wrote: available. have Kit softwarebeen influential in getting the divisions to agree to this work.That's nice to hear. Is the 10391B Inverse Assembler Development and manual going to be on the web site as well?while it was still available but it would be nice to see it available fordownload again. paste Bunny ygroups@... | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain |
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Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
At 06:38 AM 30/11/06, you wrote:
I noticed that a number of old logic analyzer operating systems wereFantastic news Mike, I wonder if there are likely to be any releases for the slightly older 1631A/D so I can access my 9122 floppy drive via HPIB - ie. To load uP files and format the floppies to save screen dumps etc ? Rgds Mike --- In <mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>hp_agilent_equipment@..., Mike <erazmus@...>Regards Mike * GMC/VK/VL Commodore & Calais FuseRail that wont warp or melt ! * High grade VL/Skyline milspec ignition driver electronics now in development * Twin tyres for most sedans, trikes and motorcycle sidecars |
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Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
John Miles
Great to hear, Mike. I also note that most (if not all) of the material at
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seems to be available on the Agilent site as well. It doesn't seem that long ago (early 90s?) when the 16500s were really hot stuff. I remember getting the hard sell on those when I worked at Dell. :) -- john, KE5FX -----Original Message----- |
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Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
MKawasaki wrote:
In the future the 165X and 165XX software should all be available.That's nice to hear. Is the 10391B Inverse Assembler Development Kit software and manual going to be on the web site as well? It used to be on ftp.agilent.com many moons ago - I grabbed a copy while it was still available but it would be nice to see it available for download again. A PDF of the 1651B ops manual would also be very nice :) Thanks. -- Phil. | (\_/) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny ygroups@... | (='.'=) into your signature to help him gain | (")_(") world domination. |
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Hp 431b, Hp8402b
Does Anyone have Operation and Service Manuals for:
Hp 8402b Power Meter Calibrator; Hp 431b Power Meter; Hp 1120a Active Probe; Hp 1122a Probe Power Supply; And off topic Items: Millivac 823b S1 Rf Voltmeter; Cushman CE 24a Selective Voltmeter; Or Know of a Source? Any Help would be appreciated. Rod. VE5RMK |
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Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
MKawasaki
Hello everyone,
I noticed that a number of old logic analyzer operating systems were not on the Agilent.com home page. The Logic Analyzer Division has agreed to put the software on the web site within the next few weeks to month. In the future the 165X and 165XX software should all be available. Thanks for your patience. Your requests on this message board have been influential in getting the divisions to agree to this work. Mike Kawasaki Agilent T&M eBusiness Manager --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Mike <erazmus@...> wrote: who has developmentit on a web site available to download.Great link Warren, nice clean site - what the net should be :) * Twin tyres for most sedans, trikes and motorcycle sidecars |
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Re: Help on HP8601A sweep generator
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Pete" <peterawson@...>
wrote: Lefty(?) know that I have the original parts availablecost. Thanks a lot Pete, I've sent you an E-mail to make contact Lefty |
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Re: Help on HP8601A sweep generator
Thanks Kuba... but a search of the Sphere site shows no stock on
those two IC types. And being new here Deane Kidd ? Larry --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "arthurok" <arthurok@...> wrote: generator HP8601A sweep > generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testingout it's > function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range dividermodule such > that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not onthe hi > range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it pointsto > motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-0102 = > MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate andtest the > individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. Howeverlooking > ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for thesevintage > ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonableprices? chips (in the $5 price range). Since the chips you mention are singledevices (IIRC single D and single JK FFs), there are various modernreplacements. The replacements aren't pin-compatible, and usually come in SOpackage, but it should be trivial enough to wire them in. |
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Re: Help on HP8601A sweep generator
what about sphere electronics in canada
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or maybe even deane kidd?? ----- Original Message -----
From: Kuba Ober To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Help on HP8601A sweep generator On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:08, Lefty wrote: > Hi group; > What a great resource this forum is. I recently aquired a HP8601A sweep > generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testing out it's > function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range divider module such > that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not on the hi > range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it points to > motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-0102 = > MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate and test the > individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. However looking > ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for these vintage > ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonable prices? You can likely replace those with equivalent-function stocked ECL chips (in the $5 price range). Since the chips you mention are single devices (IIRC single D and single JK FFs), there are various modern replacements. The replacements aren't pin-compatible, and usually come in SO package, but it should be trivial enough to wire them in. Cheers, Kuba |
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Re: Help on HP8601A sweep generator
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 10:08, Lefty wrote:
Hi group;You can likely replace those with equivalent-function stocked ECL chips (in the $5 price range). Since the chips you mention are single devices (IIRC single D and single JK FFs), there are various modern replacements. The replacements aren't pin-compatible, and usually come in SO package, but it should be trivial enough to wire them in. Cheers, Kuba |
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Help on HP8601A sweep generator
Hi group;
What a great resource this forum is. I recently aquired a HP8601A sweep generator on E-bay in very nice cosmetic condition. In testing out it's function it seems to have a failure in the hi-range divider module such that the unit works on the low range (100khz-11mhz) but not on the hi range (1-110mhz). I've looked at the Bama manual and it points to motorola ECL divider chips (HP 1820-0101 = MC1034P & HP 1820-0102 = MC1013P). They give a troubleshooting procedure to isolate and test the individual chips that I will attempt this weekend. However looking ahead is there anyone that can identify a supplier for these vintage ECL chips in small quanities (like one of each) at reasonable prices? I thank anyone that can help me out. I'm very impressed with the design and construction of this vintage HP sweeper and I would really like to get it functional 100%. Also I'm curious on the years of production of this unit, the chips had a date code mark of 1971. Thanks Larry |
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Fw: 8410B
Hi All,
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I am re-posting this message, as I have had no response. With the apparent differences in models later than those pre-fixed with 1902A and 1941A my present manual is next to useless and I cannot continue the fault finding procedure. Does anyone out there have manual which would cover an HP 8410B with serial prefix 2017A or later. I have checked the usual sources, but everyone seems to have the same manual as I have. Cheers, Chris ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris van Lint" <chrisvanlint@...> To: <hp_agilent_equipment@...> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:10 PM Subject: 8410B I have an HP 8410B Network Analyzer, which does not appear to work as it should. When putting the unit through the troubleshooting stages as suggested in the manual, I find that the amplitute values quoted in figure 8-51, page 8-51 (circuit board A4) are considerably higher compared to what I get. With an input of 30mV at 20.278Mhz at test point 4, I get 225mV at TP3 (not >0.3V) at TP2 I have 800mV (not >3V) and at the output TP1 I have 400mV (not >2V) I discovered that R15, which according to the circuit diagram should be 100 ohm is in fact 454 ohm, which could explain the differences in gain. I borrowed an A4 board from a friend and discovered that his unit too used 454 ohm and performed identically to mine (i.e. only 400mV out at TP1). Further investigation shows that the model # for my 8410 (and that of my friend) is prefixed 2017A. However the manual I have covers prefixes 1902A and 1941A and 1450A and 1741A with changes mentioned in the "manual changes". It would appear that some significant changes were made in later models making the information I have on hand almost useless. |
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