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Re: HP mms system catalog
Hi Erik,
You can find a copy of "Modular Measurement System HP7000 Family Catalog" at the TestMart website ( ). At the bottom of the page, you will see a section called: "Library". In this section. click on the link: "Original manufacturers' catalogs" Now, in the Agilent catalog listings, about 1/3 down the page, you will see the "Modular Measurement System HP7000 Family Catalog" link, where you can download the document. The website has a registration procedure, but it is very easy. Good luck! Matt |
Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser ET AL - system disk, how to create?
MKawasaki
Alexander,
This is another product that I used to work on during my days in Colorado Springs :-) I can't find the file within our intranet, but will send a request to the division support engineers. I plan to get an update within the next week. Mike --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., Alexander Whiplash <alexander_whiplash@...> wrote: _____________________________________________________________________ _______________ Do you Yahoo!? |
Re: Workbench surface
Rasputin Novgorod
The only solution is to follow a good protocol. I put that in placeAfter several careless incidents with soldering irons, I started using fireproof table tops (with static mats on top). It was some kind of laboratory table-top, a mix of asbestos and resin, that was made locally when I lived in New England. I've had them for 20 years. I remember the factory cutting room was clouded with airborne asbestos and cement dust; nobody wearing masks. The safety inspectors wound have had fits... /b ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. |
Re: Workbench surface
have been through this a couple of times in last 20 years,That was all very interesting - particularly that a 1M-ohm mat was susceptible to fluorescent light e-m. Two points that are worth making to clarify: 1. The reason that Al foil is bad is that any static charge on a device comes out instantly - and the high peak current that flows (even from a few pF on the gate of a FET) is so high that thermal damage occurs. A resistive mat is essential to make sure that charge bleeds out slowly enough to prevent this. 2. It is possible to subtly damage devices without destroying them totally - leading to change in characteristics, noise and/or lifetime. The only solution is to follow a good protocol. I put that in place after I destroyed a rare double FET while repairing a 'scope. Craig |
Re: Workbench surface
have been through this a couple of times in last 20 years,
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a. Using a static mat from 3M or one of the top companies that supply to HP and others is the best recommendation, those mats allow static discharge at the best rate. Dont use an aluminium sheet to ground as some people have tried. b. If you have overhead fluoros then might need to reduce the mats 1M to 100K, in my case the 1M meant the mat wasnt draining the field from the fluoro and we blew many mosfet gates (the ones without protection zeners). If you are not going to be handling anything without protection zeners then dont bother. c. Have a region of interface between the static mat region and where you walk from so some static can dissipate before you get to the mat. Like a 3m area which is floor treated, floor mat is ideal but I find that carpet is ok if its treated twice a year with some spray on static treatment. d. If you are handling a lot of very sensitive devices in most other places in the lab where they might be stored but not worked on then a static controlled fan might be helpful, cant recall the name but it has a ion source either mildly radioactive or a power operated type. I dont use one myself but depends what you are handling, others might comment on that. cheers mike At 11:50 AM 3/12/06, you wrote:
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Freebies Update
All computer items (the Proliant and the Suns) are now spoken for.
The plotter is still available. Thanks much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" |
FREE Equipment in WA State (Kent)
Fellow Techies,
I've said it on my web site, and I'll say it here: Scrounging is not so much ongoing acquisition as it is a 'flow-thru' of goodies. Any tech-scrounger will eventually hit the point where they Just Need To Move Stuff Out. Such is the case with me right now, so I'd like to take a moment here to feed back to the same 'techie food chain' that I've benefited from for so many moons. Specifically: I've got the following FREEBIES available for PICKUP ONLY, NO SHIPPING in Kent, Washington (southeast of Seattle). The only condition I place on the stuff is that whoever takes it needs to be taking it to USE IT, not to sell it for scrap. --HP DraftMaster SX Plus large-format pen plotter, in excellent condition. Includes a whole slew of pens (condition unknown, but they've been kept capped in an indoor environment) and two packages of big paper (including a pack of Size D sheets). This item is not that heavy, and it is on wheels, but it is bulky and tall. You will need at least a small pickup truck with an open bed to move it properly. --Compaq ProLiant 6500 server with twin Pentium Pro 200's. This was the box that was originally running my FTP archive (I've since upgraded to a later model of ProLiant). Working condition, 512MB RAM, and I think I could find a pair of rack slides and maybe even enough 4 gig drives to make a small array if you twist my arm enough. --A pair of Sun SPARC-10 systems with at least 50MHz HyperSPARC CPU modules installed. These used to run part of my Internet presence before I upgraded to HP NetServers, so I know they work. RAM and hard drives included (though I will need to wipe the drives before they're taken as they still contain security-sensitive data). If you'd like any or all of the goodies (hopefully all in one swell foop?), just drop me a line. If, for whatever reason, your E-mail bounces you can give me a buzz on 253-639-2996. Thanks in advance for helping me find this stuff a good home. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" |
Re: HP1652B Logic Analyser - system disk, how to create?
...And a mirror of these files will soon be available on the Blue Feather FTP archive.
Keep the peace(es). * REPLY SEPARATOR * On 27-Nov-06 at 20:38 Warren Guinn wrote: Andreas, -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" |
Workbench surface
Steve
There was a discussion regarding workbenches on this reflector back in October and I'd like to ask for some follow up advice.
I'm planning to replace an old workbench. Is there a top I can put on my new workbench that is ESD safe? Right now I have an ESD mat that I place on the workbench surface when appropriate. Inasmuch as I'm going to be more or less starting from scratch, I thought I'd at least ask the question about an ESD-safe work surface. Thoughts or advice out there? Thanks. Steve K8JQ |
Re: OT fluke 8060A battery eliminator
Steve
Thanks for the responses and advice guys.
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Upon closer inspection, the writing on the meter does say A81. Thanks for that clarification. I thought that isolation might be an issue with the run-of-the-mill wall warts. I'll most likely use an on-hand wall wart for lower voltage measurements, which is what I use the meter for mostly when it's on my workbench. Over the past few years I've often forgotten to turn it off and end up using enough 9V batteries to make it worthwhile to consider powering it from AC. Wonder what size or type of plug fits the battery eliminator jack on the meter? Thanks again! Steve K8JQ jbarnes wrote: Steve, |
Re: Need logging help with hp 5328a
Jeff Spence
James,
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The TCL scripting language has good support for GPIB. It is pretty easy to write a script in TCL that reads the 5328A once every so often and writes the result to a text file. The text file can then be read by Excel for further processing. Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: James Hickox [mailto:jameshickox@...] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:37 AM To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Need logging help with hp 5328a Hello all, I have a 5328A counter with the HP-1B option 011 digital I/O init installed. I wish to record the frequency output of a oscillator over a long period of time (several hours to several days) and I need some way to interface the output from the counter to a PC, and some way to copy the input to the pc to an excel spreadsheet for data logging, etc. BTW, I am NOT an engineer, just a ham radio operator trying to get a stable ransmitter on the air. Hny Ideas, suggestions would be a great help. Thanks, James Hickox, AA5AO -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/562 - Release Date: 12/1/2006 1:12 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release Date: 12/2/2006 9:59 AM |
Need logging help with hp 5328a
Hi James:
Spark Fun has the GPIB-USB Controller. In addition to the EZ GPIB software there's also a "Plotter" program at: that's designed to process time interval data (like you would measure with the HP 5328) and from that get Allan plots. Note for high stability work you don't have time to make frequency measurements and instead make Time Interval measurements, typically comparing a GPS timing receiver's 1 PPS with a 1 PPS derived from you oscillator. You might also consider joining the Time Nuts mailing list Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE -- w/Java w/o Java |
Re: OT fluke 8060A battery eliminator
Steve,
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I understand the situation. In the hand held meters like the 8060A the battery eliminator jack is connected to -ve input terminal. This means that whatever you connect the input terminals on the meter appears can appear on eliminator jack. In the bench meters such as the 8050A, the transformers were potted and have an isolation voltage of 4kV. I suspect that the fluke eliminator was of similar construction, probably heavier than normal insulation on the leads and a molded plug. The manual for the 8060A is available for free from www.fluke.com IF you are measuring low voltage, less than 50V you can use any wall mart with the right voltage and polarity. If you are above 50V use the battery. I would also recommend the fluke 8050A for bench use. Very good value on eBay. Make sure that you get one with a good LCD. I hope this helps. Regards, John VE3XRY ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
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Re: Fluke reflector
Steve
Hi John,
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Thanks for the help. I have a Fluke 8060A multimeter that I'd like to power with external DC when I'm using it on my workbench. The instrument has a jack with the following text printed next to it: BATTERY ELIMINATOR JACK CAUTION OPERATIONAL HAZARD EXISTS IF BATTERY ELIMINATOR OTHER THAN FLUKE ASI IS USED. Or maybe that's AS1. Did Fluke make that model of battery eliminator? I don't find it on eBay. What would be the "operational hazard" if I powered the meter from a wall wart? What size/type plug does it take and how should I wire it? Thanks. Steve K8JQ jbarnes wrote: Steve, |
Re: Need logging help with hp 5328a
Didier Juges
Here are my $0.02 on the subject:
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The first step will be to get the data out of the counter, and that will require a GPIB controller of some sort. There are 3 basic types that I am familiar with. 1) The plug-in card type, with the older AT style plug-in card being fairly cheap on eBay ($5 to $10 for most), but not many computers have suitable slots, or the more recent PCI type, but these cards are still relatively expensive on eBay ($50 to $150). One problem with the plug-in cards is that you will need the computer fairly close to the equipment because GPIB signals don't travel too far, and the cables are bulky and expensive (see below) 2) The USB type, with the Prologix adapter () being the least expensive "new" USB controller you can buy ($125), and considerably more expensive models from National Instrument or Measurement Computing. The Prologix type has the advantage of working with John Miles' software, and hopefully soon with my own software. USB has the advantage of being able to operate farther from the computer, and most USB controllers don't require a separate power supply. The Prologix controller also has the advantage of plugging directly to the back of the instrument, so you save the GPIB cable, but you need the clearance in the back of the unit. The USB controllers also work well with laptops. 3) the RS-232 type, with models from Black Box, IOTech and National Instruments and probably others, which can be bought fairly cheap on eBay, but you may have to wait a little, as they are not very common. I paid anywhere from $20 to $50 for those, and I have several. In general, serial-GPIB controllers have non-standard protocol, so you must write software for the model you have. I have models from BlackBox and IOTech. The BlackBox is a medium size enclosure that requires a 9-10V DC supply to operate, the IOTech Micro/488 is much smaller and runs from power stolen from the serial port, pretty neat (however, it will not work if there are several unpowered instruments on the bus). Be careful that BlackBox sells two similar models, one is a true controller, that's the one you want, the other is an adapter and has limited functionality, and would be useless for your purpose (it is intended to drive plotters and such). The difference between the two is in the EPROM and the silk-screen on the front panel, the hardware is the same. I like the serial adapters because they are inexpensive and don't require to go inside the computer. They can easily be swapped from one computer to another and work well with laptops, which cannot use an AT or PCI internal controller. Then you will need a GPIB cable, cheap on eBay. Industry standard GPIB cables are very stiff and expensive when new, but cheap (yet, still stiff...) when bought on eBay. Personally, I have bought several cables on eBay, but I also make cables using ribbon cable and IDC connectors from Digikey (male connector is PN: MDC24K-ND, female connector is MDF24K-ND, they cost about $5.50). It's not much cheaper than true GPIB cables from eBay, but much easier to daisy-chain from instrument to instrument. Finally, you need some software. Let's quickly pass over National Instrument's LabView, which is definitely not priced for the hobby market. You can try a free program called EZGPIB by Ulrich Bangert which includes a scripting engine which may allow you to do what you want without having to buy a visual studio development system or some other compiler. While you won't need a compiler, you will still be required to write code using the scripting engine that's built into the program. There may be other such free software, but I have not come across any. I am not sure which GPIB controllers are supported, but I am pretty sure it includes the Prologix. I have started working on software to take advantage of the GPIB ports on my instruments, and while not quite ready for prime time, it is buggy but usable (at least for me). For now, this software only supports the BlackBox and IOTech RS-232-GPIB controllers, but I am working on the Prologix controller. This software supports a number of instruments (right now, HP 8656A, HP 8657B, HP 3478A, HP 5316B, HP 5334B, HP 5370A, HP 8672A, HP 8673M, HP83640, HP 3586A, Fluke 8860, HP 59306A, HP 59307A, HP 436A, HP 437B) with more coming. Functions that are supported are of two types: Plotting (such as sweeping the frequency of a signal generator and measuring power with the HP 436A or the HP 3586A for instance) and Logging, where data from a voltmeter, HP 3586 or counter is collected at a given periodicity (from a fraction of second, when practical, to many minutes). Logging supports the counters and voltmeters listed above. Logging can also automatically scan the HP 59306A or HP 59307A switches to log multiple channels with a single instrument. I believe it would be simple to add the 5328A once I look at the commands. If you get one of these serial controllers, or if you get a Prologix and are patient, I'll be glad to let you try my program. Didier KO4BB James Hickox wrote: Hello all, |
DNS Changes
This is a general announcement to the TekScopes, HP gear, and TestGear mailing lists.
I will be updating Blue Feather's DNS this weekend, including some IP address changes. This may affect those of you who access the FTP archive. The initial changes should be in place shortly, though it could take up to 36 hours for them to propagate fully through DNS. This could mean an inability to reach the site for a time. Thanks in advance for your patience. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" |
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