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Re: Please avoid the use of bad language
开云体育There is a huge difference between a Republic and a Republican.one is a form of government the other is a single party with similar ideas within a type of government . ie Republican and Democratic parties in the two party system in the USA. please do not confuse the two. 搁别苍é别 On 2019-09-02 7:11 p.m., Michael A.
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Re: E4418B power meter clearing Ram battery failed
开云体育HI Vic, Thanks. I did not know about this.? It looks useful. Tom BryanN3AJA
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There was an engineering change at some point in the production of these that resulted in premature death of the RAM Battery. Subsequently a fix was released to correct that. |
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Re: Sorry but it's OT - TAS 122 telephone network emulator documentation request
Ed, ? I’m sure you know core value in these instruments was to be able to simulate nearly every impairment in phone systems anywhere in the world.? But that was originally based mostly on analog phone systems which have evolved considerably since then.? But some of the impairments are still very valid since a lot of digital was present when these things were designed and manufactured.? My most recent use was to test circuitry that listens to ring cadence in foreign systems.? Otherwise a lot of other impairments are still? useful since the “last mile” to a subscriber drop is often analog. ? I fortunately have the operating manuals – 3-ring binders – which cover the entire operation of the units. ? Greg |
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On 9/2/19 10:02 PM, Stephen Hanselman wrote:
I’ve often questioned the references on power meters. As far as HP goes they always required a bolometer to adjust. Most folks don’t have this so I wondered how well many of the so called “cal” labs did them.The common way (not that it's "common") to do this in a calibration lab is with a Weinschel/Tegam 1806 system with FM1109/M1110 sensor heads. These heads are/can be sent to NIST for characterization. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
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There were no Republicans when The United States of America was founded, so how can it be 'Republican Politics'?. On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 9:14 PM Richard Hill via Groups.Io <primemage=[email protected]> wrote: Why are we mixing politics on a tech board?? |
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I’ve often questioned the references on power meters. As far as HP goes they always required a bolometer to adjust. Most folks don’t have this so I wondered how well many of the so called “cal” labs did them. With three of them you might be able to go old school, like using standard cells for voltage, and take data on all three sources. When I do power meters I use a range calibrator (mostly 435, 436, 437, 438). HP gives the DC voltage that is put out for each range and with a 3458 I feel the meter is probably fairly well calibrated. The sensors on the other hand are always, in my mind, a question Regards, Stephen Hanselman Datagate Systems, LLC On Sep 2, 2019, at 18:29, Bryce Schroeder <bryce.schroeder@...> wrote: |
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Re: Power meter 50 Mhz calibration point Amplitude drift
Hi Paul
I have a few of these (E4418A and 441A) in the shop at the moment. Let me know what exactly you are seeing on your end and I can run some tests.on the ones I have. How are you seeing this drift? Is it with the Sensor connected to Cal output? Or are you measuring the Cal output with some other method? How much drift are you seeing? (Magnitude/Time) Vic |
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I think the main advantage of an electoral college was that it
overcame the communications difficulties inherent in having a national election in the 18th century. Its utility now seems dubious to me since we have the senate to provide state-based representation for the smaller / less populous states. Really, the EC causes politicians to focus on swing states, not small states. The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is a possible (clever but somewhat hackish) solution, if you think it's a problem. If only Ben Franklin had been a bit more on the ball and invented the telegraph :-) |
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Well, we are engineers and engineers like to solve things.? We are of all stripes but we share the admiration and respect for quality engineering (of HP!).? If (and that's a big if) we can have a rational calm light discussion on some points, and there is little else going on, there seems to be little harm.
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I found the question about the stability of power meter reference sources interesting as I have considered picking up beat up power meters at flea markets solely for the source.? These things are very tight; I have three different power meters and the sources all read within 0.1 dB of another.? All are far beyond cal date. Peter On 9/2/2019 9:14 PM, Richard Hill via Groups.Io wrote:
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I think it's a quirk when a bunch of people could move where they live and change the political outcome without changing their vote.
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On 9/2/2019 9:05 PM, jyelmgren wrote:
the electoral college was not a quirk but an effective design for a Republic so that even the smallest of States has some voice and impact ...other wise they never would have joined to start with. |
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Why are we mixing politics on a tech board??
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Especially republican politics?
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the electoral college was not a quirk but an effective design for a Republic so that even the smallest of States has some voice and? impact ...other wise they never would have joined to start with.
even over two hundred years ago it was intended to balance out the less populated states ( or colonies at the time ) with the few heavily populated ones. Everyone thinks we are a democracy ....we are not ...it's a Republic.? That's how it's supposed to work as opposed to being a quirk. ? |
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开云体育Nope, Not language police. And no intervention from list owner either, really.The reason is simpler: a mercy's errand which will see me travel 300km each way. But, at least, I can pick up a few cigars on the way back... With best regards Tam HANNA (emailing on a BlackBerry PRIV) Enjoy electronics? Join 14k other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at Am 3. September 2019 01:51:50 MESZ schrieb Stephen Hanselman <kc4sw.io@...>: Quick, hide, the language police are here |
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On Sep 2, 2019, at 15:56, Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote:
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Re: Sorry but it's OT - TAS 122 telephone network emulator documentation request
I used to have a couple of TAS units, acquired cheaply at a junk store. They were big rack-mount sized beasts - maybe that model, but I don't recall. What I do recall was the frustration of finding essentially zero operating or maintenance info. What I wanted to have is an easy to use, decent, simple POTS CO simulator, and thought these would be ideal. I did manage to guess enough from the front panel controls, to sort of run, but hardly to a point of goodness that warranted keeping them. They sat on the shelf for years, and I ultimately parted them out. I was amazed at how complex they were inside, for what seems a fairly simple, narrow application. But, when something is made to do every possible thing, in every possible condition, it does get complicated. These were definitely commercial/professional grade equipment - very nice and sophisticated. They were not much use to me though, since I could hardly get them to do anything, and even if I could, I didn't need most of what they were capable of.
I often regretted getting rid of them, especially whenever I wanted to fool around with phone stuff. Years later, I found a B&K 1050 "Telephone Analyzer," which is way way way below what the TAS ones could have done (if they could be told to do it), but actually very close to my original need, so I'm good with it. Ed |
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开云体育Hello, sorry, I cannot respond anymore. So no worries With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at On 2019. 09. 03. 0:56,
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Excellent Stuart!? Just when things had quieted down... |
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Excellent Stuart!? Just when things had quieted down...
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Re: Please avoid the use of bad language
I think the words "bad language" does not properly express the intent of the moderator. Perhaps "offensive language" would be more appropriate.
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Follow the lead of the current President of the United States; he often offends an individual or a group of people. That sort of thing has no place on this group, whether by the use of offensive words or by using descriptions of certain people or groups.
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