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Locked Re: Lothar Baier - please explain the possible 8703A -> 8720B deception
I am locking this topic as I inadequately posted it to the wrong group.
By Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd · #143376 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
I think only a small part of the input capacitance is going to be fairly consistent with frequency. This will be the shunt capacitance to the ground ring right at the tip where the tip will be a bit
By jmr · #143375 ·
Re: Fume extractor recommendation
One wonders how the extraction (death) of military people, WWI 20,000,000 approx, approx 60,000,000 WWII who had the "best" health and genes has affected the prevalence of various diseases like
By Ken Eckert · #143374 ·
Re: Fume extractor recommendation
Getting OT but I will note that things like cancer are probability based and include genetic disposition.? Raising the risk of cancer from 0.001 per thousand to 0.01 per thousand still means you are
By Peter Gottlieb · #143373 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
OK sorry for any confusion about where 60R and 7pF comes from. If you are still unsure about the Rp of the 10073C up at UHF, I tried a quick experiment using a VNA and a simulator. I measured a
By jmr · #143372 ·
Re: Fume extractor recommendation
Wow, those old guys must have been much tougher than today's youth and young adults! I loved your stories, and will withhold many similar ones of my own. Other than having made a much better choice of
By Steve Hendrix · #143371 ·
Re: Fume extractor recommendation
When I was a 7 year old kid, up until I was 18, I fished frequently during the summer.? I always used lead sinkers.? I also always crimped them on the fishing line with my teeth.? I also remember
By Matt Harris · #143370 ·
Re: E4406A starting problem
I have one with the same problem. I didn't disassemble it. I saw comments that could be the source. Do I check the power source directly?
By Jesse Joabe · #143369 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
I againmissed the plot you provided. A lot fo confusion has arisen due to your use of 6pF and 60R without any inital reference.hey were determined. I still suggest that the BNC T method is a good
By Robert G8RPI · #143368 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
Jmr: "This stuff isn't difficult or technically challenging." <boggle> I have to admit I'm finding it **extremely** challenging trying to follow all this!! I thought I had a reasonable grasp of
By Jinxie · #143367 ·
Locked Lothar Baier - please explain the possible 8703A -> 8720B deception
Lothar, On 9th August 2023 you offered for sale a 130 MHz to 20 GHz 8703A lightwave analyzer. https://test-equipment-for-sale-wanted-or-exchange.groups.io/g/main/message/4859 You stated that had
By Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd · #143366 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
What do you think is going to be special about the 10073C that means the Rp will stay at 2.2Meg even up at VHF and UHF? I just measured one for you. Rp falls in a similar way to other x10 scope
By jmr · #143365 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
Posts crossed agin, I'm doing other things. The Tek example is a 10M 100MHz probe. That is not the same as the 10073C.
By Robert G8RPI · #143364 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
I've been following this discussion with interest, no particular expertise to contribute. Is your statement above based on the leads and other parasitics adding some inductance, which starts to cancel
By Steve Hendrix · #143363 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
I've just measured a 10073C probe on an analyser for Rp Cp and XP vs frequency up to 500MHz. See the plot below. There should be no surprises in the result below as many x10 scope probes will look
By jmr · #143362 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
No, I've not measured a high impedance 'scope probe on a VNA (which is typically intended for 50R systems). I'm away from home on business so won't be doing so any time soon (I have a number of VNAs).
By Robert G8RPI · #143361 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
If it helps, look at the Tek datasheet in the link below. It shows Rp vs frequency for a typical 100MHz x10 scope probe. The input Rp for the 10073C will be fairly similar vs frequency. It will fall
By jmr · #143360 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
Jeez, I've just read all the recent replies. Have none of you ever measured a x10 scope probe before? You can't assume the Cp will remain at 12pF up at UHF. Also, the Rp will fall with increasing
By jmr · #143359 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
No I'm not counting the capacitance twice. Rp is a measure of parallel resistance not parallel capacitance. At 400-500MHz, the 10073C will load a circuit in a similar way to the loading caused by a
By jmr · #143358 ·
Re: Testing Scope Probes
You saved my day... Raymond
By Raymond Domp Frank · #143357 ·