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Re: HP8714B source module extender needed
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFrom: hp70000freak Hello,
I had the same issue long time ago. It
was a faulty RF amplifier stage. As far as I can remember
schematics are in the net and the amplifier was something like ATF
53142 or so.?
I soldered thin coax onto the board in order to pickup the signal stage by stage and find the fault. ?Cheers,
Hi. Thanks for that, and yes I suspect it's just an internal
amplification issue.
Yes, I also found some schematics in the past, but also note
that ArtekManuals have the full service manual + clip.
??? ????? and just
put 8714B in the search box.
Need to find some space to do stuff like this, as those modules
with the covers removed (for access) are rather vulnerable to
mechanical damage.
Regards to All.
Dave B
(G0WBX)
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Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
I believe we should all encourage youngsters to join groups like these, especially the HP/Agilent/Keysight group, which can be very educational. Do please do so.? I have received a complaint from someone who encouraged a young member to join, but feels unhappy about the use of bad language. I can see her point. So can you please all stop this.? Dave (owner of both groups)? -- Dr. David Kirkby, Kirkby Microwave Ltd, drkirkby@... Telephone 01621-680100./ +44 1621 680100 Registered in England & Wales. Company number 08914892. Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, Chelmsford, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom |
Re: HP 54542A
Hi,
just to confirm: Yes, the battery is a CR17450SE and I replaced it on both my scopes 2013 and 2017 which is quite some work as one has to remove the mainboard to do so. The replacement was priced EUR30 and compared to the work in- volved, I was OK with it. Be aware: (1) If the battery is really empty, the scope even fails to start. (2) After re- placing the battery you will have to do a calibration which is automatic and guided by the firmware. From the datasheet of this battery (i.e. no recharge!!): 250mAh, 3V, max discharge 9mA continuous 150mA pulsed. Best wishes, Erik. On Fri, 30 Aug 2019, Gordon Slessor via Groups.Io wrote: If I remember correctly the battery is a CR17450 it?s a 2/3 A.A. 3 volts with two pins on the ''~`` ( o o ) +------------------------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.--------------------------+ | Dr. Erik Baigar Inertial Navigation & | | erik@... .oooO Vintage Computer | | www.baigar.de ( ) Oooo. Hobbyist | +---------------------------\ (----( )----------------------------+ \_) ) / (_/ |
Re: Chips for 5315A/B counter: 1820-2131 and 1820-2312
Bob Macklin
I also worked with the 6800 family (6892, 6808, 6909) between 1989 and 1984.
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In 1986 I worked for the USAF and they were testing a a radiation hardened version of the RCA micro. In 1980 I bought myself a Heathkit H-89 computer. It had a Z-80 and ran. CP/M. I used it as a development system until about 1989 when I got my first PC Clone. Bob Macklin Seattle, Wa. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Harvey White" <madyn@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2019 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Chips for 5315A/B counter: 1820-2131 and 1820-2312 My time ended about 8 years before yours did. I saw mostly Intel (starting |
Re: Chips for 5315A/B counter: 1820-2131 and 1820-2312
My time ended about 8 years before yours did.? I saw mostly Intel (starting with 8088/8086 and some 8080), I knew of Motorola (mostly the 6800 series).? While I did have the Mostec books, the RCA COSMAC data (some of it), and my own favorite (mostly due to cost, the 6502), I never saw them in any sort of equipment that I did for my work, but that was military spec stuff, which had its own (and highly beloved) processor.
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Harvey On 9/1/2019 10:48 PM, Bob Macklin wrote:
During my time in the industry (1970-1998) I never saw a MK3870 or any |
Re: Chips for 5315A/B counter: 1820-2131 and 1820-2312
Bob Macklin
During my time in the industry (1970-1998) I never saw a MK3870 or any
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other Mostec micro. How popular were they? Bob Macklin Seattle, Wa. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Oconnor" <kjo@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2019 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Chips for 5315A/B counter: 1820-2131 and 1820-2312 To my knowledge the HP3870 was a MK3870 clone. |
Re: Off topic regarding a chart recorder NOW a discussion about 3D printers
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGreetings,While the 3D printer discussion is very interesting, we have drifted far away from my search for manuals and parts for an Omega Engineering 640-3M chart recorder.
I would really appreciate if we could move the 3D printer discussion to its own well deserved thread with the sincere hope that someone out there can help me with my chart recorder.
Regarding 3D printers we have two or three where I work and different groups are making both good and useless parts on the things all the time.
I have the misfortune to be restoring a British car out of the 90¡¯s for which many plastic parts are no longer available from traditional sources or even eBay. ?In those cases I reverse engineer the part and send files to
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I get excellent results for what I consider modest prices without having any money or time invested in yet another piece of equipment and supplies.
My two cents FWIW.
Regards,
Ken
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Re: Off topic regarding a chart recorder
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PLA is a good general purpose plastic that is decent for prototypes, but may not be good for long term items.? It runs 20 to 30 USD per KG depending on where you buy.? It does not need a heated bed, but depending on what the bed coating is, may really *want* a heated bed.? ABS is ABS plastic, supposedly (depending), more durable, may or may not be nastier to work with (*does* require ventilation and a heated bed, and higher extruder temperatures).? May be nicer for things that need to be able to withstand wear.? I haven't used it.? Prices seem to be 30 to 40 dollars/kg. Foil vs heated??? not sure what you're talking about. A factor is 3D printing is bed adhesion, the more the better unless you can't get it off the baseplate.? Some materials (for the bed) have little adhesion when cold, lots more when hot.? Use when hot, let cool.? It's a factor.? ABS needs a heated bed, never used it.? As I mentioned, PLA doesn't need? heated bed, but that depends on the bed coating. 3D printing is useful, but it's not an exact science. Harvey On 9/1/2019 6:48 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
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Re: 3D printing filament types, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Off topic regarding a chart recorder
You might try PETG. It warps little, similar to PLA, but has better
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mechanical properties, similar to ABS. I mostly print with ABS. The ability to vapor polish it is worth the trouble of having an enclosed build volume (for thermal stability/warping prevention etc) in doing replacements for old injection-moulded parts. Printing nylon is another option, and a great one for largish plastic gears, though the moisture sensitivity puts off most people who don't have a vacuum oven at their disposal. Polycarbonate has the same problem with moisture and is also very warpy, but it's incredibly tough. I actually went years printing only ABS before I ever printed in PLA. To this day, I only really use PLA for moulds/forms, though I suppose it would be my first choice for art objects too. Thanks for the practical data about the biodegradability, that has been something that's probably held me back from using PLA more. On Sun, 1 Sep 2019 at 20:38, Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
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On 9/1/19 6:48 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
What is PLA good for printing?I print everything in PLA, and am just starting to explore TPU, which is the flexible "rubbery" stuff. A lot of people hollar and scream about not using PLA because it's "water soluble". Yeah, BS. I have a soap dish...yes a SOAP DISH in our main bathroom I printed in PLA, and it's unchanged since the day it was made about 2.5 years ago. I avoid ABS like the plague. It's stronger in some ways than PLA, but its fumes are toxic (and they stink to high heaven) and it warps like crazy. Things I've printed recently in PLA: - enclosures/chassis - knobs and buttons - mounting brackets for meters and displays - various tools, support clips, etc for SMT PCB assembly work - casting molds for my lady's soapmaking business - lens caps for camera lenses Things I'm experimenting with in TPU: - toothed timing/drive belts - replacement rubber feet (feet which I can't easily buy, like those for DEC VT100 terminals) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
3D printers, was Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Off topic regarding a chart recorder
On 9/1/19 6:33 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
I am under the impression many 3D printers are cheap consumer junk. WhatThis isn't really the case, as 3D printers haven't made the jump to real high-volume end-user sales. Once they show up at WalMart, they will be garbage. I have four 3D printers in my lab now, three FDM and one resin type. They all fall under the category of "cheap Chinese", and were all a few hundred dollars each. They are all *excellent* printers, built like tanks and great performers. There are better ones on the market, but at nowhere near this price point, and really, I've no complaints about any of these. For FDM printers, the ones I have are the ones that are re-badged and sold by Monoprice. I have the Select Mini, the Maker Select Plus, and the Maker Select Pro Ultimate. (Why I have these models, why I have all three of them, is a long story involving a new product introduction crunch before a trade show, and really isn't relevant here. But I will point out that I have these for work purposes, involved in putting dinner on the table, not play.) My resin printer is an Anycubic Photon, which I waited a long time for...it's messy as heck to use, but the output is unbelievable. Why this isn't really that far off-topic here: A few weeks ago I received an HP 6205B power supply that had been banged around in shipment and those little fragile plastic meter frame mounts had broken. In about two hours I had designed replacements using OpenSCAD, and in two more hours I had printed them and the power supply was reassembled and running on the bench. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA |
Re: Off topic regarding a chart recorder
I'll go with "yes they are" and "no they aren't".? Construction wise you get various levels of "good", size wise, generally, it depends on what you're making.
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Firstly, read the reviews. Secondly, after taking them with a grain of salt, generic is generally better, based on software, parts, and people who know what to fix. 3D printers are not a "drop in slot" type of technology.? Even if you had a "perfect" one, you'd still have to do tweaks based on what you're doing, printing materials, and perhaps software. Can you, though, get decent results?? You have to define "decent" for several values of price and time. My personal opinion is that a 3D printer can be a good thing, get the largest one you can afford.? Heated bed is needed, if you can get one with a dual head extruder.? It allows you to put transparent windows in cases for LEDs, or dual color inserts, if you like that kind of thing. Make sure you know the difference in the materials (ABS, PLA, etc....) and what they're good for.? Understand the tradeoffs. It's not going to be an exact science here.? Technology is not there unless you spend 20,000 dollars or more for a different technology. Oh, and yes, I *do* have at least one, and use them, mostly for cases and support fixtures. Harvey On 9/1/2019 6:33 PM, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
I am under the impression many 3D printers are cheap consumer junk. What would be a suitable one for more serious work, that doesn't cost a small fortune? |
Re: Off topic regarding a chart recorder
It seems these are more common over there than here in the States.
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I don't know the relative merits of foil vs. heated.? As I don't buy f**k I am not aware of its expense? ;-) What is PLA good for printing? On 9/1/2019 6:37 PM, Tam Hanna wrote:
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Hello,
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my Exwife and I bought a RenkForce RF100 v2. With a rebate Dorit got, but a four year stressless warranty, it cost us like 450USD carried out of the front door of the shop in Vienna. It works in a 12x12x12 cm size and treated us quite well. Disadvantages: a) the warranty requires return to THIS VERY shop of Conrad. We have another Conrad next door in Hungary, but it does not honor our warranty claim. b) the print bed is not heated but uses a foil instead. This foil is pricey as fuck. c) PLA only. Tam With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at On 2019. 09. 02. 0:33, Peter Gottlieb wrote:
I am under the impression many 3D printers are cheap consumer junk. What would be a suitable one for more serious work, that doesn't cost a small fortune? |
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I am under the impression many 3D printers are cheap consumer junk. What would be a suitable one for more serious work, that doesn't cost a small fortune?
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On 9/1/2019 6:24 PM, Tam Hanna wrote:
Sorry to sound like a broken record...but get a 3D printer. Or hit up a makerspace, if you can handle the crowd which hangs out Western European ones at least. |
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Sorry to sound like a broken record...but get a 3D printer. Or hit up a makerspace, if you can handle the crowd which hangs out Western European ones at least.
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With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at On 2019. 09. 01. 1:15, Burt K6OQK wrote:
Ken, |
Re: E3630A +20V Output Capacitor popped open
Well, the cue was in that picture: The white silk screen mark for where the minus side should have been. ?The Nichicon cap, with its 1995 vintage date code of H9546, had been inserted with the wrong polarity. ?That is indeed a valid reason to go pop (and I¡¯m surprised it kept working for so long).
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Flux residue on the solder side was already a give-away that this cap had been ¡°serviced¡±. The slightly broken plastic wrap maybe also was a hint that this cap had had a previous life in a place where it had been secured with some glue. I also used the opportunity to replace a 100 nF RIFA X2 cap near the mains power switch (20 mm lead distance). ?It had multiple cracks in the clear plastic, so one would predict it was already?counting down to releasing the smoke. I didn¡¯t do the multi-turn pimp because the mounting of the original 3590S pots makes use of the fact that the original hardware (¡°A17¡± variant) is square. ?Would have had to hack the front panel plastic; no time for that now. Just to remind us all: even nicely preserved hardware (came even with tamper-evident stickers with the name of the ebay seller ¡°nubicom¡± on them) might have a glaring service botch inside. Gr¨¹?e, Carsten On Aug 24, 2019, at 21:04, Carsten Bormann via Groups.Io <cabocabo@...> wrote: |
Re: 4339 Adjustment software?
I've not either. No one popped up (sigh).
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I tried... On 28-Aug-19 16:43, Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 at 00:33, Bruce Lane <kyrrin@... --
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Re: 8753A - Turns itself off - CRT HV-transformer?
Hi!
I have some 1349 displays from 8753 that I replaced with LCD. The tubes are weak but if you need the HV, maybe we can work out something. Let me know.
Jeff
Hello.
I have an old 8753A VNA (green monochrome display) that turns itself off after a few minutes of operation. I guess it is an overcurrent sensor that is triggered. The CRT goes black with a vanishing dot. The fan stops working. It tries to restart but I quickly go for the power switch. I am not alone with this problem. A friend have an 8753A that also exhibits this behavior. According to him, it is likely that it is the same kind of problem that has plagued many Tektronix HV transformers: Increased power dissipation in the transformer as a result of moisture in the potted winding. I have not yet dissassembled the monitor unit to see if the HV transformer has the same brown epoxy as Tek used. There is a known issue with the low voltage regulators which needs a resoldering of the series pass transistors and I have done this some time ago. Everything checks out fine. Since the instrument is quite old and I use it with a one-way bridge not having been able to find an S-parameter set for it, I do not see eny economy in purchasing an LCD replacement. Anyone else who has experienced this and found the cause? Cheers Ulf Kylenfall SM6GXV |
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