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Free GPIB software for Prologix GPIB USB Interface

Ulrich Bangert
 

Hi folks,

I am a newbie to this group. While I own a number of older HP devices
this is not the reason why I enter this newsgroup. Instead, the people
at Prologix told me that my EZGPIB utility that I have programmed for
their USB GPIB Interface might be of interest to some of you.

So, if you own a Prologix USB GPIB interface or plan to buy one: I have
done a utility that gives you high level access to the Prologix USB GPIB
interface in a PASCAL like programming environment without the necessity
to deal with low level serial programming. It is freeware. If your are
interested I suggest you download the (still not complete) manual from



and the complete utility with examples from



Have fun with it and send me your feedback for improvements!

Ulrich Bangert
df6jb@...
Ortholzer Weg 1
D-27243 Gross Ippener
Germany


Re: HP8568B on screen text intensity - FIXED !!!

Didier Juges
 

Don't feel bad, you learned something (we all did), the instrument is working and your wallet is not depleted, that's all that matters :-)

A lot of these magnificent instruments do have CRT wear-out issues, and this has been addressed here many times, so you are actually one of the lucky ones.

I'll take lucky over smart any day :-)

Didier KO4BB

david_woodhead wrote:

Well I feel pretty stupid as all it was was an adjustment! - the intensity limit pot (R516) was incorrectly set. It's not imeadiately obvious from the schematic but this POT has the effect of offsetting the Z intensity and pushing the lower intensity (voltage) levels into cutoff but with little effect on the higher intensity levels - this was exactly what I was seeing.
Thanks for the comments posted.

David.


Re: HP8568B on screen text intensity - FIXED !!!

 

Well I feel pretty stupid as all it was was an adjustment! - the
intensity limit pot (R516) was incorrectly set. It's not imeadiately
obvious from the schematic but this POT has the effect of offsetting
the Z intensity and pushing the lower intensity (voltage) levels into
cutoff but with little effect on the higher intensity levels - this
was exactly what I was seeing.

Thanks for the comments posted.

David.



--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "david_woodhead"
<david_woodhead@...> wrote:

I have 2 of these analyzers and both demonstrate exactly the same
problem - the trace intensity becomes inreasingly less visible as
the
trace line lengths get shorter. On screen text, consisting of short
lines, is barely visible (unless I really turn up the intensity
control).

Has anyone else seen this? I have posted a pic here of the signal
on
TP301 (Z axis output) with 0 volts being the bottom graticule. The
intensity control is adjusted for a low intensity (but clearly
visible)
trace.



I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that might have seen this or can
compare my scope trace with thiers?

David.
KM5TZ


Re: HP8568B on screen text intensity

Didier Juges
 

Chuck Harris wrote:
Hi David,

You have a low emission CRT. Most HP CRT's are on RF instruments
where the operator feels inclined to leave the instrument on 24/7 to
keep it warmed up and stable for use at a moment's notice. This wears
out the cathode in the CRT's gun assembly, and makes it become increasingly
dim, and blurry.

There are only two fixes for this problem: 1) replace the CRT, something
that is becoming more and more difficult, and 2) restore/rejuvenate the
CRT, a process that sometimes extends the useful life of the CRT for a
good while.
There is a third fix: a company (I forgot whom, but they should not be too hard to google, or John Miles can post it here) makes a color LCD replacement for the entire display. Pretty neat, and great use of color. It's not cheap, but worth it, considering what these instruments are worth in good condition. This replacement makes it better than new!

Didier KO4BB


Re: HP8568B on screen text intensity

 

Hi David,

You have a low emission CRT. Most HP CRT's are on RF instruments
where the operator feels inclined to leave the instrument on 24/7 to
keep it warmed up and stable for use at a moment's notice. This wears
out the cathode in the CRT's gun assembly, and makes it become increasingly
dim, and blurry.

There are only two fixes for this problem: 1) replace the CRT, something
that is becoming more and more difficult, and 2) restore/rejuvenate the
CRT, a process that sometimes extends the useful life of the CRT for a
good while.

I have restored several HP CRTS (I have never needed to do a tektronix CRT)
using my Sencore CR70 CRT restorer. The Sencore CR70, and CR7000 are about
the best that are routinely available. They were made for the television/
computer monitor repair market, but are equally applicable to scope, and
test equipment CRT's.

After you have restored/rejuvenated a CRT, you should avoid leaving the
instrument on 24/7. If you only turn it on when you need it, it will last
you for many many years. If you use it 24/7, it might last you only another
couple of thousand hours. Each additional time you restore/rejuvenate the
CRT, you get less of an improvement, and less additional life, until it
just quits.

-Chuck Harris

david_woodhead wrote:

I have 2 of these analyzers and both demonstrate exactly the same problem - the trace intensity becomes inreasingly less visible as the trace line lengths get shorter. On screen text, consisting of short lines, is barely visible (unless I really turn up the intensity control).
Has anyone else seen this? I have posted a pic here of the signal on TP301 (Z axis output) with 0 volts being the bottom graticule. The intensity control is adjusted for a low intensity (but clearly visible) trace.

I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that might have seen this or can compare my scope trace with thiers?
David.
KM5TZ


HP8568B on screen text intensity

 

I have 2 of these analyzers and both demonstrate exactly the same
problem - the trace intensity becomes inreasingly less visible as the
trace line lengths get shorter. On screen text, consisting of short
lines, is barely visible (unless I really turn up the intensity
control).

Has anyone else seen this? I have posted a pic here of the signal on
TP301 (Z axis output) with 0 volts being the bottom graticule. The
intensity control is adjusted for a low intensity (but clearly visible)
trace.



I'd appreciate hearing from anyone that might have seen this or can
compare my scope trace with thiers?

David.
KM5TZ


Looking for CPU board 54111D (later 2Gs/s version)

 

Looking to buy a CPU board (later version that supports 2Gs/s option in
software). Anyone that can offer a working board at a reasonable price?
I want to upgrade my unit with the 54114 test set and my unit's CPU
board too old.

Dean


Re: [TekScopes] Want to use a high-res voltmeter in the Portland Oregon area

 

Thanks Lars, but that instrument is only specified to
1% accuracy. I need one that's about 10000 times better.
And so do you!

Please, send further replies off-list to avoid crossposting. If I hear
anything of interest to the lists, I'll forward it.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Lars Ahlstr?m [mailto:lea56@...]
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:16 PM
To: David Wise; hp_agilent_equipment@...; TekScopes@...
Subject: SV: [TekScopes] Want to use a high-res voltmeter in the Portland Oregon area



Hi Dave,



I could recommend this one. Ebay: 140070877954

I think its just a question of square dollars. ;)



I have the former model, and this one has even BNC out. Its just great, I checked my 8520's with it... allmost just zeroes after the dot... =)



They have a UK website as well: (where you can se their former one)



/Lars



-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fr?n: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] F?r David Wise
Skickat: den 12 januari 2007 23:09
Till: hp_agilent_equipment@...; TekScopes@...
?mne: [TekScopes] Want to use a high-res voltmeter in the Portland Oregon area



I have a couple of 5-1/2 digit differential
voltmeters (Fluke 877A and 895A) in whose
calibration I have lost confidence.
Since (a) I don't have cubic dollars to spare
and (b) it's Just A Hobby, a cal lab is out of
the question. Do you know of anyone local to me
(Portland Oregon) who has a 6-1/2 digit or better
voltmeter that's in good cal? I will also gladly
accept suggestions for other places to ask.

No profits are riding on this. I'm doing it
just for the heck of it, to satisfy myself
that they're in spec.

Thanks,
Dave Wise


Want to use a high-res voltmeter in the Portland Oregon area

 

I have a couple of 5-1/2 digit differential
voltmeters (Fluke 877A and 895A) in whose
calibration I have lost confidence.
Since (a) I don't have cubic dollars to spare
and (b) it's Just A Hobby, a cal lab is out of
the question. Do you know of anyone local to me
(Portland Oregon) who has a 6-1/2 digit or better
voltmeter that's in good cal? I will also gladly
accept suggestions for other places to ask.

No profits are riding on this. I'm doing it
just for the heck of it, to satisfy myself
that they're in spec.

Thanks,
Dave Wise


Lost emails

Don Collie
 

Due to a programming error [Me], I have lost all emails between 2-30 PM yesterday, and
11-00AM today. Please resend. Sorry about that!
Cheers,.................................Don Collie jnr.


Re: CLIP for 8753A?

 

If your friend isn't planning on keeping his 8753A turned on 24/7,
he can probably restore the CRT's brightness by using a common
CRT restorer/rejuvenator. I have done this with other HP CRT's,
and had good success. Another poster has done some life experiments,
and found that the restored/rejuvenated HP CRT's have quite a few
hours left in them after the procedure is done.

-Chuck Harris

rovmkr wrote:

Hi Dean, I'm not sure what you are looking for on the 8753A but on behalf of a friend without internet (dont ask)... His HP 8753B has a very faint display, does he need a new CRT? Any one with similar experience? Any one know where to get one?
He needs to scan continuous to 6 GHz and is thinking of an 8753D with opt 006. Will this do it or is it in two bands? Anyone know where to get one?
Another thought is the 8752C but is the instruction set for these different instruments the same as that of the 8753B? He doesnt want to re-write the software. We need to get hold of a catalog in the mid '90s. Peter.
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "tunerwiz" <tunerwiz@...> wrote:
Now that all these CLIP's start to appear, was there ever anything on the 8753A?
Dean
Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: CLIP for 8753A?

 

Hi Dean, I'm not sure what you are looking for on the 8753A but on
behalf of a friend without internet (dont ask)... His HP 8753B has a
very faint display, does he need a new CRT? Any one with similar
experience? Any one know where to get one?
He needs to scan continuous to 6 GHz and is thinking of an 8753D with
opt 006. Will this do it or is it in two bands? Anyone know where to
get one?
Another thought is the 8752C but is the instruction set for these
different instruments the same as that of the 8753B? He doesnt want to
re-write the software. We need to get hold of a catalog in the
mid '90s. Peter.


--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "tunerwiz" <tunerwiz@...>
wrote:

Now that all these CLIP's start to appear, was there ever anything on
the 8753A?

Dean


HP1000 gold plated prototyping board with bus decoders

 

Hi Chaps,

Have an HP1000 prototyping board, its gold plated and fits in the CPU chassis,
has 11 bus decoder logic chips and room for 40+ ICs, in excellent condition :0

Anyone still using these around the traps /






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Re: 1820-0098 decade divider IC for 5321A

marc_bury
 

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "arthurok" <arthurok@...>
wrote:

does the unit use a 5 volt power supply?
one trick would be to build up a circuit to divide a
crystal osc down to 5 hz
i think a 7492 is a divide by 12 counter.
7490 is divide by 10 in ttl
More informations on the schematics:

The logic power supply is +5V (more exactly 5,1V according to the
manual), the logic is TTL (not ECL) but the function of the I/O pins
is not totally trivial.

The decade divider chip 1820-0098 picks up its 100Hz input with a
capacitor coupling just behind the 155V high voltage rectifier.

The chip has an input pin and divide by 10 output cascaded to another
divide by 10 chip, a reset input, plus a couple of less obvious pins:
I named them control input and controlled output.
The controlled outputs from the two cascaded dividers are connected
together directly and to the Clock input of the counter Main Gate JK
flip-flop.
The control pins are connected to the gate time selector switch that
can ground one or the other divider's control pin.
The logic appears to be: grounded control pin => controlled output is
active divide by 10 output, else controlled output is high Z.

So I guess I could effectively replace this chip with a modern decade
divider such as a 7490, a logic OR and an open collector transistor.

My main option is still to try to find a spare chip ...

-Marc-


Re: Powering a HP 1141A probe

Robert Hagenbach
 

Mark,

Thanks! I am watching the item now!

Bob

Mark Kahrs <mark.kahrs@...> wrote:
Why bother? Just buy a 1142A supply; one is on epay right now for $9.99.

On 1/10/07, Robert Hagenbach <rc_hagenbach@...> wrote:

Hi,

I bought a HP 1141A RF Differential probe on eBay. It
did not come with a power supply. The power connector
looks like a 8 pin DIN connector. This would seem to
me to indicate that the power supply is more
complicated than +/- 12 volts. Can anyone help me with
a pin out of the power connector? Should I considered
buying a power supply or is it possible to build one?

Bob Hagenbach
Largo, Fl


Re: Digest Number 912

Chris Bartram
 

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "tunerwiz" <tunerwiz@...
wrote:
> Now that all these CLIP's start to appear, was there ever anything on
> the 8753A?
I just want to add that I need a schematic for the frac-N digital
board. I have a problem on this board that seems to be heat related.

Thanks, Dean
I'm also chasing a sporadic problem with my 8753B - it appears to also be in
the Frac-N synthesiser board. Maybe a 'sticky' gate.

I've been asking around about a CLIP for about a year. Someone did contact me
with an offer of a pack for $100, which I'd be quite prepared to pay -
particularly at the current UK?-US$ exchange rate(!!) - but I lost his email
address in a bout of finger trouble.

I've also emailed Mike Kawasaki at Agilent, who has been extraordinarily
helpful, but has not been able to assist with the CLIP.

My suspicion is that the early 8753 analysers still form a revenue stream for
Agilent repair facilities, and that they are (understandably) reluctant to
allow the information into the public domain.

Cheers

Chris
GW4DGU


Re: Powering a HP 1141A probe

 

Why bother? Just buy a 1142A supply; one is on epay right now for $9.99.

On 1/10/07, Robert Hagenbach <rc_hagenbach@...> wrote:

Hi,

I bought a HP 1141A RF Differential probe on eBay. It
did not come with a power supply. The power connector
looks like a 8 pin DIN connector. This would seem to
me to indicate that the power supply is more
complicated than +/- 12 volts. Can anyone help me with
a pin out of the power connector? Should I considered
buying a power supply or is it possible to build one?

Bob Hagenbach
Largo, Fl


Re: HP 1650A boot diskette

 

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "va7dij" <va7dij@...>
wrote:

Can anyone help me get a copy of one of these?
Agilent site, here
<;
Apro&pageMode=DS&cc=US&lc=eng>


Re: spectrum analyzer 1st mixer

 

Hi erik,

Whether you can repair HP mixers at home probably has to do
with what you have at home to work with ;-)

I would have to see the mixer in question. It probably requires
a microscope, and a wire bonding machine... but maybe not.

I have friends that have put new transistors in HP hybrids from
that time frame with a microscope, some silver epoxy, and a steady
hand.

-Chuck Harris

erik wrote:

On Tuesday 09 January 2007 21:30, Chuck Harris wrote:
Hello , Thank you for the quick and detailed answer , sounds like that is my problem , I did inject -30dB signal directly in the input port of the mixer , problem is te same, so mixer is blown . I suppose home-repair of a 1st mixer HP style is not feasable ? rgds , Erik


Re: 1820-0098 decade divider IC for 5321A

 

does the unit use a 5 volt power supply?
one trick would be to build up a circuit to divide a crystal osc down to 5 hz
i think a 7492 is a divide by 12 counter.
7490 is divide by 10 in ttl

----- Original Message -----
From: marc_bury
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 1:01 AM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1820-0098 decade divider IC for 5321A


Hello group,

I have an "almost" working HP 5321A counter.
It is a small 4 Nixie tubes counter with modest frequency capability,
and my problem is that this instrument uses the 60 Hz power source as
its reference, but I live in a 50 Hz area...

According to the manual, the 50 Hz option includes changing an IC from
a "divide by 6" to a decade counter.
Nothing surprising there, but I found that the afore-mentionned decade
IC is an HP specific part: 1820-0098. (8 pin TO like metal can)
And Google only leads me to the usual sites reserved for professionnal
traders. (Sphere does not carry this reference)

So if any good soul in the group has a spare 1820-0098, or a defunct
board for an HP counter in this range (there is another decade divider
on the board, also 5321A and 5221A are basically the same instrument),
I would be glad to arrange a trade.
Alternatively a datasheet, or equivalent modern reference would allow
me to restore my 5321A to normal counting if not with original parts.

Thank you for reading,
Marc