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Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

Gary Peterson
 

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Chuck;

If I am unable to get this normalizer working, I'd be happy to loan you the cable until I round up another one for parts, so you can at least see if that painfully broke feeling would have some reward with your own 8501A!

As for the manual, I just hope I can use my 35 sheet, sheet fed scanner...? on long foldouts it scans the entire foldout as a series of 81/2 x 11 sheets automatically (an HP laserjet 3015 all in one).?

I also have a private FTP server on a T3 connection, and if it's a help at some point, we can upload and download large documents with it to save postage and time.? Just need to use it after midnight and before 6am for mega-transfers, and that is no problem with an FTP client that like WS FTP Pro which permits scheduling.

Oh, I also have the new 2005 ARRL Handbook CD, CE-31/A/B and Singer CSM-1 service manuals, off topic, but thought I'd mention it.

Gary
NZ5V




Chuck Harris wrote:

Hi Gary,

That brochure would certainly seem to indicate that the 8501A should
work for you.

By 1986, the literature wasn't making any mention of 8754A compatibility.

As to the adjustment, the DAC gain is plainly labeled on the A6, ADC
board (Blue handle).? I shouldn't think it would be too tricky, but then,
I have no manual.

...As to that, if you do find yourself scanning Mike's manual, (150 pages,
IIRC), I wouldn't mind getting a copy.? I'm feeling kind of painfully broke
after paying $300 for the manual set for my 8505A.? And I still don't have
any cables for my 8501A.

-Chuck Harris - WA3UQV


Gary Peterson wrote:
> Chuck;
>
> Attached is a part of an 8754a sales brochure dated 1 JAN 84.? Note that
> the section on the 8501A states:
>
> "A single internal adjustment (DAC Gain) is required for 8754A
> compatibility".? I respectfully point out that I did read the HP
> Literature before deciding that the 8501A was compatible with my 8754A.?
> I don't know if the image will be displayed, but a scanned image portion
> of the sales brochure is included below.
>
> Mike, I would like very much to make a copy of your manual.? I do have
> both a sheet feed scanner and a flatbed scanner.
>
> My callbook address is correct, and I was wondering if I could PayPal
> you the postage?
>
> Gary
> NZ5V
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuck Harris wrote:
>
>> The HP catalogs only say that the 8501A works with the 8505 network
>> analyzer system.
>>
>> The 8501A also is special in that it is setup to normalize both the
>> polar display
>> and the phase-magnitude display of the 8505A.
>>
>> As further evidence of my belief, HP sold both normalizers at the same
>> time.? In the description of the 8750A, they list a hand full of
>> instruments
>> that are compatible.
>>
>> -Chuck Harris
>>
>> Gary Peterson wrote:
>> > John;
>> >
>> > You are so right!
>> >
>> > The 8750A must have OPTION 1 installed in it according to my 8754A
>> > manual.? It's a special interface card, and of late one was on Ebay.? I
>> > wanted to get the 8501A working because it has the HPIB interface, and
>> > the 8750A does not.
>> >
>> > Also, I think my analyzer needs an adjustment to work properly with the
>> > 8501A... hence needing the manual, as my book does not do more than
>> > indicate that I have to adjust something!
>> >
>> > Gary
>> > NZ5V
>> >
>>

Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

John Miles
 

You can get high-quality HP interconnect cables from www.glkinst.com, but
don't expect that painfully-broke feeling to go away anytime soon. :)

-- john KE5FX

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Harris [mailto:cfharris@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 9:32 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8501A Normalizer manual



Hi Gary,

That brochure would certainly seem to indicate that the 8501A should
work for you.

By 1986, the literature wasn't making any mention of 8754A compatibility.

As to the adjustment, the DAC gain is plainly labeled on the A6, ADC
board (Blue handle). I shouldn't think it would be too tricky, but then,
I have no manual.

...As to that, if you do find yourself scanning Mike's manual, (150 pages,
IIRC), I wouldn't mind getting a copy. I'm feeling kind of
painfully broke
after paying $300 for the manual set for my 8505A. And I still don't have
any cables for my 8501A.

-Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

 

Hi Gary,

That brochure would certainly seem to indicate that the 8501A should
work for you.

By 1986, the literature wasn't making any mention of 8754A compatibility.

As to the adjustment, the DAC gain is plainly labeled on the A6, ADC
board (Blue handle). I shouldn't think it would be too tricky, but then,
I have no manual.

...As to that, if you do find yourself scanning Mike's manual, (150 pages,
IIRC), I wouldn't mind getting a copy. I'm feeling kind of painfully broke
after paying $300 for the manual set for my 8505A. And I still don't have
any cables for my 8501A.

-Chuck Harris - WA3UQV


Gary Peterson wrote:

Chuck;
Attached is a part of an 8754a sales brochure dated 1 JAN 84. Note that the section on the 8501A states:
"A single internal adjustment (DAC Gain) is required for 8754A compatibility". I respectfully point out that I did read the HP Literature before deciding that the 8501A was compatible with my 8754A. I don't know if the image will be displayed, but a scanned image portion of the sales brochure is included below.
Mike, I would like very much to make a copy of your manual. I do have both a sheet feed scanner and a flatbed scanner.
My callbook address is correct, and I was wondering if I could PayPal you the postage?
Gary
NZ5V
Chuck Harris wrote:

The HP catalogs only say that the 8501A works with the 8505 network
analyzer system.

The 8501A also is special in that it is setup to normalize both the polar display
and the phase-magnitude display of the 8505A.

As further evidence of my belief, HP sold both normalizers at the same
time. In the description of the 8750A, they list a hand full of instruments
that are compatible.

-Chuck Harris

Gary Peterson wrote:
John;

You are so right!

The 8750A must have OPTION 1 installed in it according to my 8754A
manual. It's a special interface card, and of late one was on Ebay. I
wanted to get the 8501A working because it has the HPIB interface, and
the 8750A does not.

Also, I think my analyzer needs an adjustment to work properly with the
8501A... hence needing the manual, as my book does not do more than
indicate that I have to adjust something!

Gary
NZ5V
Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

 

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Gary ¨C

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OK, I¡¯ll use the address from QRZ. I do have PayPal, but no need. When you send it back if you want to put in the actual cost that I incurred that would be fine, but even that will not be necessary. A lot of people have helped me and I do not mind helping out at all. ?I¡¯ll try to get it in tomorrow¡¯s mail. 73 - Mike

?

?

Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell, NJ, 07731

732-901-9193

?

?

-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Peterson [mailto:NZ5V@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:56 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 8501A Normalizer manual

?

Chuck;

Attached is a part of an 8754a sales brochure dated 1 JAN 84.? Note that the section on the 8501A states:

"A single internal adjustment (DAC Gain) is required for 8754A compatibility".? I respectfully point out that I did read the HP Literature before deciding that the 8501A was compatible with my 8754A.? I don't know if the image will be displayed, but a scanned image portion of the sales brochure is included below.

Mike, I would like very much to make a copy of your manual.? I do have both a sheet feed scanner and a flatbed scanner.

My callbook address is correct, and I was wondering if I could PayPal you the postage?

Gary
NZ5V








Chuck Harris wrote:

The HP catalogs only say that the 8501A works with the 8505 network
analyzer system.

The 8501A also is special in that it is setup to normalize both the polar display
and the phase-magnitude display of the 8505A.

As further evidence of my belief, HP sold both normalizers at the same
time.? In the description of the 8750A, they list a hand full of instruments
that are compatible.

-Chuck Harris

Gary Peterson wrote:
> John;
>
> You are so right!
>
> The 8750A must have OPTION 1 installed in it according to my 8754A
> manual.? It's a special interface card, and of late one was on Ebay.? I
> wanted to get the 8501A working because it has the HPIB interface, and
> the 8750A does not.
>
> Also, I think my analyzer needs an adjustment to work properly with the
> 8501A... hence needing the manual, as my book does not do more than
> indicate that I have to adjust something!
>
> Gary
> NZ5V
>

Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

Gary Peterson
 

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Chuck;

Attached is a part of an 8754a sales brochure dated 1 JAN 84.? Note that the section on the 8501A states:

"A single internal adjustment (DAC Gain) is required for 8754A compatibility".? I respectfully point out that I did read the HP Literature before deciding that the 8501A was compatible with my 8754A.? I don't know if the image will be displayed, but a scanned image portion of the sales brochure is included below.

Mike, I would like very much to make a copy of your manual.? I do have both a sheet feed scanner and a flatbed scanner.

My callbook address is correct, and I was wondering if I could PayPal you the postage?

Gary
NZ5V








Chuck Harris wrote:

The HP catalogs only say that the 8501A works with the 8505 network
analyzer system.

The 8501A also is special in that it is setup to normalize both the polar display
and the phase-magnitude display of the 8505A.

As further evidence of my belief, HP sold both normalizers at the same
time.? In the description of the 8750A, they list a hand full of instruments
that are compatible.

-Chuck Harris

Gary Peterson wrote:
> John;
>
> You are so right!
>
> The 8750A must have OPTION 1 installed in it according to my 8754A
> manual.? It's a special interface card, and of late one was on Ebay.? I
> wanted to get the 8501A working because it has the HPIB interface, and
> the 8750A does not.
>
> Also, I think my analyzer needs an adjustment to work properly with the
> 8501A... hence needing the manual, as my book does not do more than
> indicate that I have to adjust something!
>
> Gary
> NZ5V
>

Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

 

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Gary ¨C

?

Looks like you received a lot of valuable advice. If you feel you still need information from the manual, the easiest thing for me would be to mail it to you by priority mail on Monday and then you could mail it back when you are done. I use mine with an 8505A without problems. I¡¯ll need you mailing address if you want it. 73 - Mike

?

?

Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell, NJ, 07731

732-901-9193

?

?

-----Original Message-----

From: Gary Peterson [mailto:NZ5V@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:42 PM
To: Mike Feher; hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: 8501A Normalizer manual

?

Mike;

Perhaps the best first question is can you email me a couple of pages that would guide me through testing the 8501A?? I have an in-calibration 8754A and my analyzer manual does not cover the "adjustment" that needs to be made to use the 8501A, but does mention it.

The Storage Normalizer does not toggle when I press the local/remote button on the far right (although the LED does flicker on power up), and the display goes blank if I turn the storage display control to "ON" or "HOLD".? I expected something to happen, but not a blank display.

I have already checked the 8501A, reseated all boards, looked for component problems, power supply problems, etc.?? It was an EBAY deal...? what can I say!? I really would like to get it working, though.?

I home-brew duplexers (have a set of 6m cans nearly complete right now), so let me know it there is anything I can offer you in exchange for a copy or to borrow your manual.




Gary
NZ5V
Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

 

The HP catalogs only say that the 8501A works with the 8505 network
analyzer system.

The 8501A also is special in that it is setup to normalize both the polar display
and the phase-magnitude display of the 8505A.

As further evidence of my belief, HP sold both normalizers at the same
time. In the description of the 8750A, they list a hand full of instruments
that are compatible.

-Chuck Harris

Gary Peterson wrote:

John;
You are so right! The 8750A must have OPTION 1 installed in it according to my 8754A manual. It's a special interface card, and of late one was on Ebay. I wanted to get the 8501A working because it has the HPIB interface, and the 8750A does not.
Also, I think my analyzer needs an adjustment to work properly with the 8501A... hence needing the manual, as my book does not do more than indicate that I have to adjust something!
Gary
NZ5V
Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

Gary Peterson
 

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John;

You are so right!?

The 8750A must have OPTION 1 installed in it according to my 8754A manual.? It's a special interface card, and of late one was on Ebay.? I wanted to get the 8501A working because it has the HPIB interface, and the 8750A does not.

Also, I think my analyzer needs an adjustment to work properly with the 8501A... hence needing the manual, as my book does not do more than indicate that I have to adjust something!

Gary
NZ5V


John Miles wrote:

Some of these normalizers, like the 8750A, required a 'personality module' to make them work with particular pieces of gear.? For instance, the 8750A could be configured for use with either the 8505 VNA or 141T spectrum analyzer, if?I remember correctly.?
?
So it's possible that your 8501A is in working order after all, but configured for use with?an 8505 or something else.
?
-- john KE5FX

Perhaps the best first question is can you email me a couple of pages that would guide me through testing the 8501A?? I have an in-calibration 8754A and my analyzer manual does not cover the "adjustment" that needs to be made to use the 8501A, but does mention it.

The Storage Normalizer does not toggle when I press the local/remote button on the far right (although the LED does flicker on power up), and the display goes blank if I turn the storage display control to "ON" or "HOLD".? I expected something to happen, but not a blank display.

I have already checked the 8501A, reseated all boards, looked for component problems, power supply problems, etc.?? It was an EBAY deal...? what can I say!? I really would like to get it working, though.?

I home-brew duplexers (have a set of 6m cans nearly complete right now), so let me know it there is anything I can offer you in exchange for a copy or to borrow your manual.
Re: 8501A Normalizer manual

John Miles
 

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Some of these normalizers, like the 8750A, required a 'personality module' to make them work with particular pieces of gear.? For instance, the 8750A could be configured for use with either the 8505 VNA or 141T spectrum analyzer, if?I remember correctly.?
?
So it's possible that your 8501A is in working order after all, but configured for use with?an 8505 or something else.
?
-- john KE5FX


Perhaps the best first question is can you email me a couple of pages that would guide me through testing the 8501A?? I have an in-calibration 8754A and my analyzer manual does not cover the "adjustment" that needs to be made to use the 8501A, but does mention it.

The Storage Normalizer does not toggle when I press the local/remote button on the far right (although the LED does flicker on power up), and the display goes blank if I turn the storage display control to "ON" or "HOLD".? I expected something to happen, but not a blank display.

I have already checked the 8501A, reseated all boards, looked for component problems, power supply problems, etc.?? It was an EBAY deal...? what can I say!? I really would like to get it working, though.?

I home-brew duplexers (have a set of 6m cans nearly complete right now), so let me know it there is anything I can offer you in exchange for a copy or to borrow your manual.
8501A Normalizer manual

Gary Peterson
 

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Mike;

Perhaps the best first question is can you email me a couple of pages that would guide me through testing the 8501A?? I have an in-calibration 8754A and my analyzer manual does not cover the "adjustment" that needs to be made to use the 8501A, but does mention it.

The Storage Normalizer does not toggle when I press the local/remote button on the far right (although the LED does flicker on power up), and the display goes blank if I turn the storage display control to "ON" or "HOLD".? I expected something to happen, but not a blank display.

I have already checked the 8501A, reseated all boards, looked for component problems, power supply problems, etc.?? It was an EBAY deal...? what can I say!? I really would like to get it working, though.?

I home-brew duplexers (have a set of 6m cans nearly complete right now), so let me know it there is anything I can offer you in exchange for a copy or to borrow your manual.




Gary
NZ5V
Re: HP 8501A Storage Normalizer Manual

 

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Gary ¨C

?

I do. Do you want to borrow it, or, do you just want me to look something up? - Mike

?

?

Mike B. Feher, N4FS

89 Arnold Blvd.

Howell, NJ, 07731

732-901-9193

?

?

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Peterson [mailto:NZ5V@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 8:07 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8501A Storage Normalizer Manual

?

Anyone got a copy of the 8501A storage normalizer manual???? Mine
doesn't toggle from local to remote mode, and does not appear to work.

Using it with the 8754A Network Analyzer.


Gary
NZ5V
HP 8501A Storage Normalizer Manual

Gary Peterson
 

Anyone got a copy of the 8501A storage normalizer manual? Mine doesn't toggle from local to remote mode, and does not appear to work.

Using it with the 8754A Network Analyzer.


Gary
NZ5V
Re: H-P 184A

free2beme953572002
 

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "free2beme953572002"
<blackbag@c...> wrote:

Hi to all,
Would someone have a H-P 184A that is in PDF ?
Thanks.
Never mind.
I'll buy it.
HP manuals on BAMA

morriso2002
 

I have uploaded manual scans for the HP 5100A/5110A synthesizer to
BAMA. They should appear in the next day or so. I have also uploaded a
scan of the manual for the 5254C 3 GHz plugin for the 534* series
nixie tube counters.

Enjoy!

Morris
Re: HP8708A Synchronizer

Brian Goldsmith
 

-----Original Message-----
From: vk2kyp


Can anyone help me, I am looking for data on a HP8708A Synchroniser.
I understand it can be used to stabilize a HP606b and late model
HP608's.
I generates a DC voltage which is used to changed the reverse bias
on varacter diode. This is used as a fine frequency control, and is
referenced back to a crytsal oscillator in the HP8708A. This is
about all I know, any futher information is appreciated.



***Gary and the list.
The correct synchroniser for the HP 606B and the HP 608F is indeed the HP
8708A.I will email you the specification page from the manual.The
synchronizer works on the huff and puff oscillator stabilization principle
and is extremely accurate and stable after initial warm up.

Regards,Brian Goldsmith.
HP8708A Synchronizer

vk2kyp
 

Hi All,
Can anyone help me, I am looking for data on a HP8708A Synchroniser.
I understand it can be used to stabilize a HP606b and late model
HP608's.
I generates a DC voltage which is used to changed the reverse bias
on varacter diode. This is used as a fine frequency control, and is
referenced back to a crytsal oscillator in the HP8708A. This is
about all I know, any futher information is appreciated.

Thank you Gary Beech VK2KYP
Re: HP 3406A manual needed

 

Hello All,

Though I thanked Gary for the received pdf in a personal email, I
just wanted to say thank you to the moderator(s) and members of this
group for helping to facilitate the exchange of information which
permits us to keep old HP gear operational and useful!

Thanks,


Mitch

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "aquaman8_2001"
<aquaman8_2001@y...> wrote:

Hello Gary,

I am not sure if my Yahoo address can accept a file this large. I
am
quite sure that it can

As an alternative, can you post it to the Files section on this
group?

If these options don't work, I have another address which I can
send
to you off line that can accept the file.

Appreciate the effort!!

Cheers,

Mitch

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Gary Beech"
<gbeech@m...> wrote:
Hi all I have a PDF of the HP3406a, it is 4MB can you accept a
file this
large

regards Gary Beech VK2KYP

_____

From: aquaman8_2001 [mailto:aquaman8_2001@y...]
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 1:04 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 3406A manual needed



Hello,

If you do have that PDF, I would also really appreciate a copy!

Great group!!

Thanks in advance,

Mitch

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Gary Beech"
<gbeech@m...> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I think I have a PDF of the HP3406a I will confirn later when
I
get home

regards

Gary Beech VK2KYP

-----Original Message-----
From: daveolla [mailto:grobbins@n...]
Sent: Tue 9/11/2004 10:17 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Cc:
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3406A manual needed



Greetings, I am looking for a HP 3406A manual, that
hopefully is
cheaper than the actual unit was. PDF is plenty fine.
Thanks
Dave Robbins





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HP 3406A manual request.. add me please

 

Dear Gary,

? I can accept that file size with no problem.? Would you kindly send it to me as well?

Regards,

Mike DiGirolamo, W4XN
DrD@...

--------------------

At 21:55 11/10/2004, you wrote:

Hi all I have a PDF of the HP3406a, it is 4MB can you accept a file this large
?
regards Gary Beech VK2KYP
Re: HP 3406A manual needed

 

Hello Gary,

I am not sure if my Yahoo address can accept a file this large. I am
quite sure that it can

As an alternative, can you post it to the Files section on this
group?

If these options don't work, I have another address which I can send
to you off line that can accept the file.

Appreciate the effort!!

Cheers,

Mitch

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Gary Beech"
<gbeech@m...> wrote:
Hi all I have a PDF of the HP3406a, it is 4MB can you accept a
file this
large

regards Gary Beech VK2KYP

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From: aquaman8_2001 [mailto:aquaman8_2001@y...]
Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 1:04 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 3406A manual needed



Hello,

If you do have that PDF, I would also really appreciate a copy!

Great group!!

Thanks in advance,

Mitch

--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "Gary Beech"
<gbeech@m...> wrote:
Hi Dave,
I think I have a PDF of the HP3406a I will confirn later when I
get home

regards

Gary Beech VK2KYP

-----Original Message-----
From: daveolla [mailto:grobbins@n...]
Sent: Tue 9/11/2004 10:17 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Cc:
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 3406A manual needed



Greetings, I am looking for a HP 3406A manual, that
hopefully is
cheaper than the actual unit was. PDF is plenty fine.
Thanks
Dave Robbins





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