Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
Thats good.
BTW: I have not forgotten about the HP HIL emulator. The units I bought for testing it still stand here, and survived the flood, but I am just so bogged in work.
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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On 2020. 09. 15. 0:11, Paul Bicknell wrote: Re
"My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and see
what he responds. Then decide on that "
I believe this has been dun
Regards Paul
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Sent: 14 September 2020 22:49
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Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
I can see, somewhere in an university, a social scientist laughing his
rear side off at how easy it was for him to upset the boffins. Probably,
he is on the fifth bottle of Chantre, having spilled half of it on the
floor laughing. They study soo hard, at STEM school, for this?
My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and see
what he responds. Then decide on that...
Tam
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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On 2020. 09. 14. 19:23, Bill Perkins wrote:
????The guy has an 'About' page here:
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that's worth a read.
????VirusTotal here:
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gives this URL:
????
a clean scan and the only outgoing connection is to Wordpress.
????From this chair then it all looks quite benign, if mildly annoying.
????Best,
????Bill Perkins
I do not get it. What is wrong or offensive of the post? The link was
to a basic article and a scope. Regards – Mike
Hi Mike,
The links that I've seen are all to a site reproducing (Tek)
publications or ignorant and even dangerous attempts to educate
people in the field of our common love, all with lots of embedded
ads. LeCroy and TekSopes Groups are also affected.
Ignoring means it'll multiply.
Earlier this morning (I'm at GMT+2), I informed David Kirkby and got
his response so I guess it'll be taken care of.
Raymond
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
Hello Bruce,
then let us make sure that this esteemed round of boffins avoids the price of being the one the Social Sciences press will pull through the cocoa, as we say in Austria.
Tam
P.S: Given that this is already OT as hell. Anyone of you have a Tyco / Quad Pick and Place at home?
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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On 2020. 09. 15. 0:12, Bruce wrote: I was thinking exactly that.? This could be a research project.? One
of the definitions of "intelligence" is to be able to carry on a
sensible conversation.? As I recall, there is a prize for the first
robot able to fool humans into believing it is also human.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Tam Hanna <tamhan@...>:
I can see, somewhere in an university, a social scientist laughing
his rear side off at how easy it was for him to upset the boffins.
Probably, he is on the fifth bottle of Chantre, having spilled half
of it on the floor laughing. They study soo hard, at STEM school,
for this?
My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and
see what he responds. Then decide on that...
Tam
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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On 2020. 09. 14. 19:23, Bill Perkins wrote:
????The guy has an 'About' page here:
????
that's worth a read.
????VirusTotal here:
????
gives this URL:
????
a clean scan and the only outgoing connection is to Wordpress.
????From this chair then it all looks quite benign, if mildly annoying.
????Best,
????Bill Perkins
I do not get it. What is wrong or offensive of the post? The link
was to a basic article and a scope. Regards – Mike
Hi Mike,
The links that I've seen are all to a site reproducing (Tek)
publications or ignorant and even dangerous attempts to educate
people in the field of our common love, all with lots of embedded
ads. LeCroy and TekSopes Groups are also affected.
Ignoring means it'll multiply.
Earlier this morning (I'm at GMT+2), I informed David Kirkby and
got his response so I guess it'll be taken care of.
Raymond
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
I was thinking exactly that. This could be a research project. One
of the definitions of "intelligence" is to be able to carry on a
sensible conversation. As I recall, there is a prize for the first
robot able to fool humans into believing it is also human.
Cheers!
Bruce
Quoting Tam Hanna <tamhan@...>:
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I can see, somewhere in an university, a social scientist laughing
his rear side off at how easy it was for him to upset the boffins.
Probably, he is on the fifth bottle of Chantre, having spilled half
of it on the floor laughing. They study soo hard, at STEM school,
for this?
My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and
see what he responds. Then decide on that...
Tam
With best regards
Tam HANNA
Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy
Electronics Lab at
On 2020. 09. 14. 19:23, Bill Perkins wrote:
????The guy has an 'About' page here:
????
that's worth a read.
????VirusTotal here:
????
gives this URL:
????
a clean scan and the only outgoing connection is to Wordpress.
????From this chair then it all looks quite benign, if mildly annoying.
????Best,
????Bill Perkins
I do not get it. What is wrong or offensive of the post? The link
was to a basic article and a scope. Regards – Mike
Hi Mike,
The links that I've seen are all to a site reproducing (Tek)
publications or ignorant and even dangerous attempts to educate
people in the field of our common love, all with lots of embedded
ads. LeCroy and TekSopes Groups are also affected.
Ignoring means it'll multiply.
Earlier this morning (I'm at GMT+2), I informed David Kirkby and
got his response so I guess it'll be taken care of.
Raymond
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
Re
"My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and see
what he responds. Then decide on that "
I believe this has been dun
Regards Paul
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Tam Hanna Sent: 14 September 2020 22:49 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS I can see, somewhere in an university, a social scientist laughing his rear side off at how easy it was for him to upset the boffins. Probably, he is on the fifth bottle of Chantre, having spilled half of it on the floor laughing. They study soo hard, at STEM school, for this? My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and see what he responds. Then decide on that... Tam With best regards Tam HANNA Enjoy electronics? Join 15k7 other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at On 2020. 09. 14. 19:23, Bill Perkins wrote: ????The guy has an 'About' page here:
????
that's worth a read.
????VirusTotal here:
????
gives this URL:
????
a clean scan and the only outgoing connection is to Wordpress.
????From this chair then it all looks quite benign, if mildly annoying.
????Best,
????Bill Perkins
I do not get it. What is wrong or offensive of the post? The link was
to a basic article and a scope. Regards – Mike
Hi Mike,
The links that I've seen are all to a site reproducing (Tek)
publications or ignorant and even dangerous attempts to educate
people in the field of our common love, all with lots of embedded
ads. LeCroy and TekSopes Groups are also affected.
Ignoring means it'll multiply.
Earlier this morning (I'm at GMT+2), I informed David Kirkby and got
his response so I guess it'll be taken care of.
Raymond
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
I can see, somewhere in an university, a social scientist laughing his rear side off at how easy it was for him to upset the boffins. Probably, he is on the fifth bottle of Chantre, having spilled half of it on the floor laughing. They study soo hard, at STEM school, for this?
My oppinion: we should end the games. Group owner, email the guy and see what he responds. Then decide on that...
Tam
With best regards
Tam HANNA
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On 2020. 09. 14. 19:23, Bill Perkins wrote: ????The guy has an 'About' page here:
????
that's worth a read.
????VirusTotal here:
????
gives this URL:
????
a clean scan and the only outgoing connection is to Wordpress.
????From this chair then it all looks quite benign, if mildly annoying.
????Best,
????Bill Perkins
I do not get it. What is wrong or offensive of the post? The link was to a basic article and a scope. Regards – Mike
Hi Mike,
The links that I've seen are all to a site reproducing (Tek) publications or ignorant and even dangerous attempts to educate people in the field of our common love, all with lots of embedded ads. LeCroy and TekSopes Groups are also affected.
Ignoring means it'll multiply.
Earlier this morning (I'm at GMT+2), I informed David Kirkby and got his response so I guess it'll be taken care of.
Raymond
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Re: 8648C RF Output Question
FWIW I'm making some DC blocks for an S parameter fixture for measuring transistors at RF with the nanoVNA. I bought SMA-M PCB edge connectors to make them with, but still need to buy SMD caps. 1/8" wide copper foil on .060" FR4 is a very good approximation to 50 ohms in microstrip form and easy to do.
I only recently got the DC block for my 8560A. Haven't actually used it yet. 10 MHz seems about right. I bought it to use with a moRFeus which has a built in bias tee. It's controlled by software, so it makes me nervous.
A pair of vertical mount PCB connectors on opposite sides of the PCB with a ring of SMD caps connecting the 2 should make a good high capacitance, low inductance block at low cost.
Have Fun!
Reg
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
Tom, there is no guy named Moon,
the post is bait
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected]< [email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom Holmes Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 4:24 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS So collectively this group has inconvenienced far more electrons than Moon did and for not much more benefit to the S/N of this group. Tom Holmes, N8ZM
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
So collectively this group has inconvenienced far more electrons than Moon
did and for not much more benefit to the S/N of this group.
Tom Holmes, N8ZM
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Database with a number of sub folders
?
Hi all
just a reminder along with the Files with all the manuals we currently
have we also have the Database with
a number of sub folders for you to fill in if you want
One in particular is link ?that has a few
short cuts to several sites including sites with Manuals
?
The Link file has just had a clean up
removing links to elicit material , dead links , duplications , lines without links?
etc
Thus making it less frustrating so all Links
should work now
?
And anything that dues not have a home is
in the Files Clipboard
?
Best Regards Paul
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Re: HP 89410A / 89441A internal 3 1/2 floppy replacement
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 2:39 AM Peter Brown <peter@...> wrote:
Hi atc-HPequipgroup
I'll have to check what the original drives were in the 54624A and 16500C were to see if the pin outs are similar
The 16500A uses a Sony MP-F52W-30 floppy drive. This is a 600-RPM, 30mm (1.18 inch) height drive with a single 34-pin connector for power and control/data. The 16500B uses an Epson SMD-1000 / SMD1040-318-02 floppy drive. This is a 18mm (0.71 inch) height drive with a single 34-pin connector for power and control/data. The 16500C uses a Teac FD-235HF floppy drive. This is a 300-RPM, 25.4mm (1 inch) height drive with a 4-pin power connector and a 34-pin connector for control/data. This is a common PC style floppy drive. The 16500A only supports LIF format floppies. The 16500B and 16500C support both LIF and MS-DOS format floppies.
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
That sounds li,e the Usenet bot 20+ years ago who posted about the Armenian genocide on dozens/hundreds of groups.
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 08:01 AM, Chuck Harris wrote:
Mr. Moon...is an artificial intelligence "bot"... [and is]... a vehicle for spamming
the groups.
The bot scans the messages on the group, and creates its own
messages...purpose is to see... [if]... the author can...fool... the group into believing Carl Moon is real.
Massive spamming for sure.
All Moon's posts appear to be vehicles to insert a link back to a Ghanaian political, and Internet woo, Website: baninii.com (It was previously prezhost.com; but, Google seems to have banned that site.) This infection appears on Amazon,Reddit, Facebook, Pinterest, Groups.io... and many others sites too.
The modus operandi of a posted link...by Moon... very often links to articles allegedly pirated by, and allegedly credited, to one Israel Banini.
In my view... whether an by Internet strip mining combined with machine learning... or just malicious individual(s)... it's a massive and egregious enterprise allegedly meant to unjustly enrich someone... by unjustly exploiting unaware forum members.
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 08:01 AM, Chuck Harris wrote:
Mr. Moon...is an artificial intelligence "bot"... [and is]... a vehicle for spamming
the groups.
The bot scans the messages on the group, and creates its own
messages...purpose is to see... [if]... the author can...fool... the group into believing Carl Moon is real.
Massive spamming for sure. All Moon's posts appear to be vehicles to insert a link back to a Ghanaian political, and Internet woo, Website: baninii.com (It was previously prezhost.com; but, Google seems to have banned that site.) This infection appears on Amazon,Reddit, Facebook, Pinterest, Groups.io... and many others sites too. The modus operandi of a posted link...by Moon... very often links to articles allegedly pirated by, and allegedly credited, to one Israel Banini. In my view... whether an by Internet strip mining combined with machine learning... or just malicious individual(s)... it's a massive and egregious enterprise allegedly meant to unjustly enrich someone... by unjustly exploiting unaware forum members.
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Re: Need support for HP-3586B and HP-3336B RPGs
JIim:
I have opened the panel on an HP 3586C and can confirm that the pinout on the diagram in your post is correct. Note that it is a 5 pin housing with pin 4 not populated with a wire.
I would note that pin 1, black is clearly shown as 'ground' and pin 5, white/red, is clearly shown as +5 in your diagram. I can confirm that the unit is indeed wired to the diagram you posted.
Hope that helps...
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Re: 8648C RF Output Question
The ones with Type N do not go below 10 MHz. The only one to go below
10 MHz has SMA's on it.
Tnx for the hint,
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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mini-circuits is a good source. Prices are fairly reasonable compared to Pasternack and other high end vendors. The products work as advertised. I use mini-circuits dc blocks on my spectrum analyzers. The ones I have are supposed to be flat to 18 GHz.?
sean
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:19 AM, Dick wrote:
Who is ..."they"... ??
?
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: HP 89410A / 89441A internal 3 1/2 floppy replacement
I went to the company's site, was impress with the various versions of the "floppy" drive.? Looks like not only do they have the full size 3.5" drives but the slimline versions too.? Also looks like one can purchase just the raw drive without the frame.
I have a Tek TDS644B scope, would like to replace it's floppy.? Don't know that even a slimline drive will fit, may have to buy just the pcb version and fabricate a mount.
Have others had experience with their line of emulators?? Does anybody in the US sell them, looks like these come from overseas.
Jim H.
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Re: WAVEFORM AND SIGNAL ANALYSIS
The guy has an 'About' page here:
that's worth a read.
VirusTotal here:
gives this URL:
a clean scan and the only outgoing connection is to Wordpress.
From this chair then it all looks quite benign, if mildly annoying.
Best,
Bill Perkins
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Show quoted text
I do not get it. What is wrong or offensive of the post? The link was to a basic article and a scope. Regards – Mike
Hi Mike,
The links that I've seen are all to a site reproducing (Tek) publications or ignorant and even dangerous attempts to educate people in the field of our common love, all with lots of embedded ads. LeCroy and TekSopes Groups are also affected.
Ignoring means it'll multiply.
Earlier this morning (I'm at GMT+2), I informed David Kirkby and got his response so I guess it'll be taken care of.
Raymond
|
Re: 8648C RF Output Question
mini-circuits is a good source. Prices are fairly reasonable compared to Pasternack and other high end vendors. The products work as advertised. I use mini-circuits dc blocks on my spectrum analyzers. The ones I have are supposed to be flat to 18 GHz.?
sean
On Mon, Sep 14, 2020 at 09:19 AM, Dick wrote:
Who is ..."they"... ??
?
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Re: 8648C RF Output Question
They make DC blocks. I bought a couple of N blocks to use with my 8560A, etc.
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Re: Need support for HP-3586B and HP-3336B RPGs
Seems like the supply is reversed, if the schematic is to be believed. You got 5V on pin 1 but it’s “supposed” to be ground. If the RPG uses light bulbs, and a particularly forgiving output stage, it may still appear to “work” with such reversed supply, but I’m not sure I’d trust the schematics blindly. Presumably where the schematics described a PC-board, there was a net list sync done between the schema and layout so the schematics would be trustworthy to an extent. But where wire harnesses are involved, it’s a free-for-all, usually.
Interestingly enough, many European car manufacturers started using some integrated electrical CAD solution in the recent two decades, and they produce wiring diagrams totally consistent with wire harnesses - the diagram and the manufacturing drawings for the harness all come from the same single source of truth. Sure makes life easier when debugging a car - I had cars from the 90s where the wiring diagrams had a few mistakes that by luck affected circuits that often had to be involved in troubleshooting. Meh.
Cheers, Kuba
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13 sep. 2020 kl. 9:26 em skrev Jim Sorenson <kjsorenson@...>:
?Hi Dan,? Thank you very kindly for offer. If I need to take you up on that perhaps you could use boards or parts out my 3586 spares unit in return. In any case if you ever need a part or board, just email me.? Since you have an RPG (sound like some military ordnance) could you possibly take a look at it and? pass on the following info to me.? I would like to confirm the colors of the 4 wires for pins 1 - 4 from your unit there.? What I've found in the doc is:? <Snap 2020-09-13 at 21.08.58.jpg> I show the black wire as pin 1 (5.5 volts) and the ground as pin 5 (red - white). This does not make sense to me.? The RPG of the 3336B is working in both directions but frequency goes up when knob turned to the left and vice versa. When I when I traded sides for RPG 1 and RPG 2, it would not work at all. Something still wrong there.? Next time I WILL take and keep notes.? Thanks
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