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SMA connectors surplus cheap

 

I've got a bunch of Molex 73251-1160 SMA pcb solder mount connectors extra if anyone wants some --


They are similar to current model

$5 for 5 + $3 postage for up to 25 of them. Will be packed in foam to mail without those envelopes they are pictured in.


Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

Was only suggesting that we revert if possible to "Standard" which we had in Yahoo in this regard...but it is YOUR group and it is good to be king.

Meanwhile I will wear the letters of my delete key ...DELETE...DELETE.....DELETE

Dave
"Religion is like a tooth brush ...everyone ought to have on e...every one ought to use it every day ...but don't ask me to use yours"

On 10/29/2018 6:17 PM, Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 18:19 Artekmedia, <manuals@... <mailto:manuals@...>> wrote:

_*AMEN !
*_
David K , Mr List Owner: One of things that changed from Yahoo to
groups
.IO. IN yahoo when using the website interface? it automatically
included the prior message(s) when replying, with Groups IO the
default
is NOT to include the prior message without the person replying
taking
an extra step. IS there anyway to change the default reply format
with
in the IO interface? Those of us using our own mail clients generally
don't have the problem but those using the web interface to reply do.

I for one just delete threads that include prior continuity...more is
the loss

Dave
manuals@... <mailto:manuals@...>


I am reluctant to change anything, as it is like the top-posting/bottom-posting topic. Whatever changes one made would upset as many as it pleases. It is like arguing about religion - a futile exercise.

Dave.



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Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, 18:19 Artekmedia, <manuals@...> wrote:
_*AMEN !
*_
David K , Mr List Owner: One of things that changed from Yahoo to groups
.IO. IN yahoo when using the website interface? it automatically
included the prior message(s) when replying, with Groups IO the default
is NOT to include the prior message without the person replying taking
an extra step. IS there anyway to change the default reply format with
in the IO interface? Those of us using our own mail clients generally
don't have the problem but those using the web interface to reply do.

I for one just delete threads that include prior continuity...more is
the loss

Dave
manuals@...

I am reluctant to change anything, as it is like the top-posting/bottom-posting topic. Whatever changes one made would upset as many as it pleases. It is like arguing about religion - a futile exercise.?

Dave.?




Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

I had threading and filtering into folders in ancient Eudora and pine over a decade ago¡­ I don¡¯t understand how one can manage without it, and how obsolete of an email client it would take not to have that functionality (perhaps off by default, but still easily enable-able). Every modern email reader, whether stand-alone or web-based, threads and filters messages into folders. I really wonder what sort of an antique client it takes not to have that functionality. I don¡¯t see the need to delete any messages either, it seems like useless busywork and a waste of time, since we won¡¯t ever run out of space. The time spent deleting the messages or manually organizing them is more expensive than the storage thus ¡°saved¡±. They compress well, too.

Cheers, Kuba

29 okt. 2018 kl. 18:01 skrev Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@...>:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:

Sorry for sending it twice, network glitch...

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Kuba Ober wrote:

Are you using a mail client that doesn¡¯t keep threads together? Resending
all of that stuff seems wasteful, it¡¯s not as if the previous messages
disappear into the void¡­ Any sane email client will show the replied-to
messages preceding the reply itself. Isn¡¯t that so?
It looks like you don't understand what mail reader is.

Just remember, there are other OSes than Windoze. There are also text mode
mail clients that doesn't show all those behemytes of stupid html code
automatically. BTW, e-mail was there even before Windoze.

Have you ever happened to look at email headers? Do you think "Me too"
message constitutes a whole percent of the entire email?

Economy nonwithstanding can you explain why anybody would keep many separate
messages instead of one including the entire thread? Do you think one would
enjoy many thousands of messages to navigate through? Do you understand how
many messages e.g. LKML or U-Boot developers' mailing list generates?

Please note that people who are really busy delete _EVERYTHING_ "Me too"
without reading and won't chase any threads unless absolutely necessary.

And no, mail readers don't thread messages.
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Re: Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B

 

I have an update in which I measured the voltages on the assembled A17 regulator board

Test points on regulator
+50V? - -0.069V
+15V? - -0.82V
-15V? - -0.27V
+5V?? - -0.02V
-5V??? - -2.2V

J3 connector on the rectifier board going from pin 1 to 14 as printed on the PCB, measurements taken with the regulator board installed
1 11.63
2 11.64
3 11.41
4 0
5 0
6 0
7 0
8 -2.3
9 0.27
10 0
11 0
12 2.43
13 24
14 0.2


Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:

Sorry for sending it twice, network glitch...

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Kuba Ober wrote:

Are you using a mail client that doesn¡¯t keep threads together? Resending
all of that stuff seems wasteful, it¡¯s not as if the previous messages
disappear into the void¡­ Any sane email client will show the replied-to
messages preceding the reply itself. Isn¡¯t that so?
It looks like you don't understand what mail reader is.

Just remember, there are other OSes than Windoze. There are also text mode
mail clients that doesn't show all those behemytes of stupid html code
automatically. BTW, e-mail was there even before Windoze.

Have you ever happened to look at email headers? Do you think "Me too"
message constitutes a whole percent of the entire email?

Economy nonwithstanding can you explain why anybody would keep many separate
messages instead of one including the entire thread? Do you think one would
enjoy many thousands of messages to navigate through? Do you understand how
many messages e.g. LKML or U-Boot developers' mailing list generates?

Please note that people who are really busy delete _EVERYTHING_ "Me too"
without reading and won't chase any threads unless absolutely necessary.

And no, mail readers don't thread messages.
---
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* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*


Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Kuba Ober wrote:

Are you using a mail client that doesn¡¯t keep threads together? Resending
all of that stuff seems wasteful, it¡¯s not as if the previous messages
disappear into the void¡­ Any sane email client will show the replied-to
messages preceding the reply itself. Isn¡¯t that so?
It looks like you don't understand what mail reader is.

Just remember, there are other OSes than Windoze. There are also text mode
mail clients that doesn't show all those behemytes of stupid html code
automatically. BTW, e-mail was there even before Windoze.

Have you ever happened to look at email headers? Do you think "Me too"
message constitutes a whole percent of the entire email?

Economy nonwithstanding can you explain why anybody would keep many separate
messages instead of one including the entire thread? Do you think one would
enjoy many thousands of messages to navigate through? Do you understand how
many messages e.g. LKML or U-Boot developers' mailing list generates?

Please note that people who are really busy delete _EVERYTHING_ "Me too"
without reading and won't chase any threads unless absolutely necessary.

And no, mail readers don't thread messages.

---
*
* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*


Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Kuba Ober wrote:

It looks like you don't understand what mail reader is.

Just remember, there are other OSes than Windoze. There are also text mode
mail clients that doesn't show all those behemytes of stupid html code
automatically. BTW, e-mail was there even before Windoze.

Have you ever happened to look at email headers? Do you think "Me too"
message constitutes a whole percent of the entire email?

Economy nonwithstanding can you explain why anybody would keep many separate
messages instead of one including the entire thread? Do you think one would
enjoy many thousands of messages to navigate through? Do you understand how
many messages e.g. LKML or U-Boot developers' mailing list generates?

Please note that people who are really busy delete _EVERYTHING_ "Me too"
without reading and won't chase any threads unless absolutely necessary.

And no, mail readers don't thread messages.

Are you using a mail client that doesn¡¯t keep threads together? Resending
all of that stuff seems wasteful, it¡¯s not as if the previous messages
disappear into the void¡­ Any sane email client will show the replied-to
messages preceding the reply itself. Isn¡¯t that so?

Cheers, Kuba

29 okt. 2018 kl. 14:23 skrev Artekmedia <manuals@...>:

That should have said : I for one just delete threads that DO NOT include prior continuity...more is the loss


On 10/29/2018 2:19 PM, Artekmedia wrote:
_*AMEN !
*_
David K , Mr List Owner: One of things that changed from Yahoo to groups .IO. IN yahoo when using the website interface??? it automatically included the prior message(s) when replying, with Groups IO the default is NOT to include the prior message without the person replying taking an extra step. IS there anyway to change the default reply format with in the IO interface? Those of us using our own mail clients generally don't have the problem but those using the web interface to reply do.

I for one just delete threads that include prior continuity...more is the loss

Dave
manuals@...

On 10/29/2018 1:13 PM, Glenn Little wrote:
This is the problem when people insist on not quoting the original message and appropriate replies.

A little net etiquette goes a long way and reduces questions and confusion.

Glenn


On 10/29/2018 12:41 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Goran Finnberg wrote:

Sergey Kubushyn:

2N4401 is _NOT_ a transistor. It is THYRISTOR aka SCR.
Sorry, no.

The 2N4401 is an NPN transistor.

Datasheet here:

www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/2N4401-D.PDF
I think 4401 is a typo -- it is a TO-92 transistor and original post was
about 2N4101 in TO-66 package:

pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/newjerseysemiconductor/2N4101-2N4102.pdf

There is no 2N4401 in TO-66; it is a low power general purpose transistor,
nothing special.
---
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Re: HP 8341B Band 3 Un Levelled

 

I've had a problem similar to yours a few years ago with a 8340B. Swapping modules didn't help. It turned out that some of the feed-through caps (from the modules through the main PCB) had become leaky! Resistances of a few kOhms! Cleaning them (just the "isolation" part, while mounted in te PCB) solved the problem.

Raymond


Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

Are you using a mail client that doesn¡¯t keep threads together? Resending all of that stuff seems wasteful, it¡¯s not as if the previous messages disappear into the void¡­ Any sane email client will show the replied-to messages preceding the reply itself. Isn¡¯t that so?

Cheers, Kuba

29 okt. 2018 kl. 14:23 skrev Artekmedia <manuals@...>:

That should have said : I for one just delete threads that DO NOT include prior continuity...more is the loss


On 10/29/2018 2:19 PM, Artekmedia wrote:
_*AMEN !
*_
David K , Mr List Owner: One of things that changed from Yahoo to groups .IO. IN yahoo when using the website interface? it automatically included the prior message(s) when replying, with Groups IO the default is NOT to include the prior message without the person replying taking an extra step. IS there anyway to change the default reply format with in the IO interface? Those of us using our own mail clients generally don't have the problem but those using the web interface to reply do.

I for one just delete threads that include prior continuity...more is the loss

Dave
manuals@...

On 10/29/2018 1:13 PM, Glenn Little wrote:
This is the problem when people insist on not quoting the original message and appropriate replies.

A little net etiquette goes a long way and reduces questions and confusion.

Glenn


On 10/29/2018 12:41 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Goran Finnberg wrote:

Sergey Kubushyn:

2N4401 is _NOT_ a transistor. It is THYRISTOR aka SCR.
Sorry, no.

The 2N4401 is an NPN transistor.

Datasheet here:

www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/2N4401-D.PDF
I think 4401 is a typo -- it is a TO-92 transistor and original post was
about 2N4101 in TO-66 package:

pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/newjerseysemiconductor/2N4101-2N4102.pdf

There is no 2N4401 in TO-66; it is a low power general purpose transistor,
nothing special.

---
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*? Las Vegas?? NV, USA?? < >? Miracles require 24-hour notice.?? *
*



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Re: Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

That should have said : I for one just delete threads that DO NOT include prior continuity...more is the loss

On 10/29/2018 2:19 PM, Artekmedia wrote:
_*AMEN !
*_
David K , Mr List Owner: One of things that changed from Yahoo to groups .IO. IN yahoo when using the website interface? it automatically included the prior message(s) when replying, with Groups IO the default is NOT to include the prior message without the person replying taking an extra step. IS there anyway to change the default reply format with in the IO interface? Those of us using our own mail clients generally don't have the problem but those using the web interface to reply do.

I for one just delete threads that include prior continuity...more is the loss

Dave
manuals@...

On 10/29/2018 1:13 PM, Glenn Little wrote:
This is the problem when people insist on not quoting the original message and appropriate replies.

A little net etiquette goes a long way and reduces questions and confusion.

Glenn


On 10/29/2018 12:41 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Goran Finnberg wrote:

Sergey Kubushyn:

2N4401 is _NOT_ a transistor. It is THYRISTOR aka SCR.
Sorry, no.

The 2N4401 is an NPN transistor.

Datasheet here:

www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/2N4401-D.PDF
I think 4401 is a typo -- it is a TO-92 transistor and original post was
about 2N4101 in TO-66 package:

pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/newjerseysemiconductor/2N4101-2N4102.pdf

There is no 2N4401 in TO-66; it is a low power general purpose transistor,
nothing special.

---
*
*? KSI@home??? KOI8 Net? < >? The impossible we do immediately.? *
*? Las Vegas?? NV, USA?? < >? Miracles require 24-hour notice.?? *
*



--
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Manuals@...
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Quoting Prior Messages (Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B)

 

_*AMEN !
*_
David K , Mr List Owner: One of things that changed from Yahoo to groups .IO. IN yahoo when using the website interface? it automatically included the prior message(s) when replying, with Groups IO the default is NOT to include the prior message without the person replying taking an extra step. IS there anyway to change the default reply format with in the IO interface? Those of us using our own mail clients generally don't have the problem but those using the web interface to reply do.

I for one just delete threads that include prior continuity...more is the loss

Dave
manuals@...

On 10/29/2018 1:13 PM, Glenn Little wrote:
This is the problem when people insist on not quoting the original message and appropriate replies.

A little net etiquette goes a long way and reduces questions and confusion.

Glenn


On 10/29/2018 12:41 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Goran Finnberg wrote:

Sergey Kubushyn:

2N4401 is _NOT_ a transistor. It is THYRISTOR aka SCR.
Sorry, no.

The 2N4401 is an NPN transistor.

Datasheet here:

www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/2N4401-D.PDF
I think 4401 is a typo -- it is a TO-92 transistor and original post was
about 2N4101 in TO-66 package:

pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/newjerseysemiconductor/2N4101-2N4102.pdf

There is no 2N4401 in TO-66; it is a low power general purpose transistor,
nothing special.

---
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*? Las Vegas?? NV, USA?? < >? Miracles require 24-hour notice.?? *
*



--
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Re: HP 8341B Band 3 Un Levelled

 

Look at the YTO alignment - put a detector on it and look at slope of RG
output (unleveled). If line is relatively smooth, alignment may work, if
you see "squiggles" possible YTO problem (still try alignment)

On Mon, October 29, 2018 10:10, MARC CHRISTIAN wrote:
Afternoon HP Group


Trying to sort our HP8341B 20GHz Sweeper but Problem with Band 3 13.5 GHz
¨C 20 GHz Un-Levelled Light is ON . Setting 0.0dBm Level on Lower Bands is
OK (CW Mode) but Band 3 Levels go too ¨C13dBm to ¨C19dBm All Voltage Rails
are OK and done some Board Swaps with another Unit but not cured problem
yet.... any ideas ???


Kind regards
Marc Christian


Telford Electronics. Old Officers Mess. Hoo Farm. Humbers Lane. Horton
Telford. Shropshire. TF6 6DJ. UK
01952 605451
www.telford-electronics.co.uk





Re: HP 8341B Band 3 Un Levelled

 


Check for AC ripple on the power supply rails.


Re: Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B

 

This is the problem when people insist on not quoting the original message and appropriate replies.

A little net etiquette goes a long way and reduces questions and confusion.

Glenn

On 10/29/2018 12:41 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Goran Finnberg wrote:

Sergey Kubushyn:

2N4401 is _NOT_ a transistor. It is THYRISTOR aka SCR.
Sorry, no.

The 2N4401 is an NPN transistor.

Datasheet here:

www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/2N4401-D.PDF
I think 4401 is a typo -- it is a TO-92 transistor and original post was
about 2N4101 in TO-66 package:

pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/newjerseysemiconductor/2N4101-2N4102.pdf

There is no 2N4401 in TO-66; it is a low power general purpose transistor,
nothing special.

---
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*? Las Vegas?? NV, USA?? < >? Miracles require 24-hour notice.?? *
*


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Re: HP 8341B Band 3 Un Levelled

 

I didn't have this specific one but I did have a similar issue with 8340B going unleveled in Band 2 - The solution to stop the unleveling (but not to get the output back into spec) was to reload the values from the print out in the case.?

Not sure if they got corrupted, someone played with them or something else but doing that fixed the unleveled issue and allowed me to get on with tweaking the unit.

Might be worth a try.

TonyG


Re: Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B

 

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018, Goran Finnberg wrote:

Sergey Kubushyn:

2N4401 is _NOT_ a transistor. It is THYRISTOR aka SCR.
Sorry, no.

The 2N4401 is an NPN transistor.

Datasheet here:

www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/2N4401-D.PDF
I think 4401 is a typo -- it is a TO-92 transistor and original post was
about 2N4101 in TO-66 package:

pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets/newjerseysemiconductor/2N4101-2N4102.pdf

There is no 2N4401 in TO-66; it is a low power general purpose transistor,
nothing special.

---
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* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*


Re: Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B

Dale H. Cook
 

At 11:00 AM 10/29/2018, wilson2115 wrote:

I am currently testing Q10 which is 1884-0065 PRX, which is shown as 2N3670 in the manual.
Note that the 1884-0065 is not shown as identical to the 2N3670 in the HP transistor cross references, so it may be a selected 2N3670.

Dale H. Cook, GR/HP/Tek Collector, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA


Re: HP 8341B Band 3 Un Levelled

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Afternoon HP Group
?
????????????????????? Trying to sort our HP8341B 20GHz Sweeper but Problem with Band 3 13.5 GHz ¨C 20 GHz Un-Levelled Light is ON . Setting 0.0dBm Level on Lower Bands is OK (CW Mode) but Band 3 Levels go too ¨C13dBm to ¨C19dBm? All Voltage Rails are OK and done some Board Swaps with another Unit but not cured problem yet.... any ideas ???
?

Kind regards
Marc Christian

Telford Electronics. Old Officers Mess. Hoo Farm. Humbers Lane. Horton
Telford. Shropshire. TF6 6DJ. UK
01952 605451
www.telford-electronics.co.uk


Re: Transistors for the A17 voltage regulator 8642B

 

I had several fuses on A18 blown as a result of the misaligned connector to A17, I replaced them all. One of them was hard to get which was a 1/4 ampere fuse. I am currently reassembling A17 as the various SCR's and transistors appear. I will see if in fact power is getting to A17 from A18.