Hi Gedas
?
Hopefully you are going to be the light at
the end of the tunnel because it is an up hill struggle trying to resurrect old
computer hard war into ?working systems
?
Glen? I am no software man so software?
and HP basic will be an up hill struggle for me? thank you for the links
So all the software to run the viper is on
the 5 old 5.25 floppy disks? or 2 newer 3.25 ?floppy? ?disks
?
My Viper baud is based on a
68000???? part number 82321-60011? with a sub PCB on
it part number ??82305-60001
The idea of getting the Viper bourd
working is to use it for the HP drive project as a reliable storage medium
?
Best regards Paul B
From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 09 July 2017 18:41
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re:
[hp_agilent_equipment] Viper HPIB port
?
?
or a pair
of 56 kbps modems at each end and Z-Modem . Actually I have a similar
system and have a read only CD player installed so I can port large files into
the DOS PC when needed.
Gedas, W8BYA ? Gallery at Light travels faster than sound.... This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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On 7/9/2017 1:33 PM, Glen Slick glen.slick@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
?
On Sun,
Jul 9, 2017 at 10:09 AM, 'Paul
Bicknell'
paul@...
[hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
>
> Hi Glen
>
> Thank you for the posting what software do you use on the host PC ?
>
> Can I use Widows XP or do I have to use Widows 98 or even DOS 3.4 ??
>
> I prefer XP as this supports the USB ports and external memory devises
>
> Regards Paul B
I just set up a dedicated system that boots into MS-DOS 6.22 with no
version of Windows of any kind installed.
If I needed to easily and quickly move files between the HP BASIC
system and a modern system I would probably add an Ethernet card to
the HP BASIC system and run mTCP software on top of DOS to FTP files
to and from the system.
You could also set up a system that could dual boot into either DOS or
some version of Windows so you could boot into DOS when you want to
run HP BASIC and then boot into Windows when you want to do stuff on
Windows.
-Glen
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Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
On 09-Jul-17 10:19, Dogma amgod@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
Hi Harvey,
You should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
HP HIL PS2 Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module frre shipping | eBay
<>
$ 39.99
Actually, I just bought the thing. I'm going to take a stab at reverse-engineering it and see if I can come up with something reproducible. It'll make a good late-summer project. ;-) -- --- Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech dot com "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
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Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
Hello,
Sorry for being slow and silent - I am the guy who planned (or still plans) an adapter. Sadly, things were fucked up a little bit here: my exwife is in hospital again (as always), and one of my employees has a tussle with the German mafia.
I am, in principle, still interested in tackling the problem. My main questions are:
A) is anyone willing to betatest. This, I ask as I have no HP HIL capable workstation; my logic analyzer is a 16500C and a 16700A who both do PS2.
B) would a price of 50USD for keyboard and 75USD for keyboard and mouse work?
--
With best regards
Tam Hanna
---
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On July 9, 2017 7:46:34 PM CEST, "'Paul Bicknell' paul@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:
?
Hi Harvey
thank you for the posting and the link unfortunately ?Paul Berger posted ?On 2017-04-04
7:45 PM
These
are not actually converter modules, they just break out some connections on one
side there is a 10 pin RJ-45 like connector which is the connection to the
system and this module just breaks out PS/2 keyboard and mouse connectors and a
HP-HIL connector, they do not contain any electronics.?
so I think we need someone to take up the challenge
and make a real adaptor
?
Paul B?? UK?
?
With all these Pauls do we need to extend
the signature eg? Paul B??? USA
/ Paul B? Can /??? Paul B?? UK?
???just a thought
From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 09 July 2017 18:20
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re:
[hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
?
?
You
should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
|
|
|
|
HP HIL PS2 Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module
frre shipping | eBay
Selling a used working HP HIL PS2
Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module frre shipping to lower 48 states only. |
eBay!
|
?
|
|
On
Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:16 AM, "Harvey White madyn@...
[hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
wrote:
?
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all
>>
>Just a follow on from the E mail below so thank you to the author I
>believe is named Bruno
>
>Did someone offer to make an inter face between different keyboards eg (
>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>
>Also Digi key is a new company to me and although they have the connectors
>is there any way of getting a better price
The major distributors are Mouser, Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
want to look at surplus distributors such as All Electronics,
Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a surplus distributor) Jameco.
I've dealt with all of them, they're quite reliable. Sometimes prices
for the major distributors do vary a bit, but be sure to figure in
shipping and taxes as well.
Harvey
>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard leads
>
>Best Regards Paul B
>
>
>From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>
>
>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to
match
>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>
>http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv
><http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv&D
>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>
>
>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end and
5-1761184-1
>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
>
>
>These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>Arrow, etc.
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=1-1761184-1-ND
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=5-1761184-1-ND
>
>
>
>Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than
HP-HIL.
>
>
>
>I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the
"A" keyed
>connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses RS-485 vs.
>HP-HIL. similar to: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281933654336
>
>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle of
the LCD
>display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically latched. The
>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on both ends and it
has a
>different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables might
>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable or by remapping the the
wiring and
>hacking the "A" key to fit in a "E" receptacle.
>
>
>
>I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
>research/evaluation. I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I don't
>represent any of the vendors.
>
>
>
>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a
"real"
>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>cables. Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>suspended.
>
>
>
>No virus found in this message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date: 04/05/17
?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG -
Version: 2016.0.8013 / Virus Database: 4779/14666 - Release Date: 07/09/17
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Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
Hello,
On the risk of getting my ass booted off this esteemed quorum for advertising shit or some horsecrap (got burnt at the Danaher owners guild), some advice.
I recently found myself using both OctoPart an OemSecret for finding components cheaply. If you buy one pricey item or many ones so that shipping doesn't bite, the sites are really useful. OemSecret has more vendors in its list, but Octo has the better user interface.
Tam
--
With best regards
Tam Hanna
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On July 9, 2017 6:15:46 PM CEST, "Harvey White madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:
?
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>
>
>Just a follow on from the E mail below so thank you to the author I
>believe is named Bruno
>
>
>
>Did someone offer to make an inter face between different keyboards eg (
>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>
>
>
>Also Digi key is a new company to me and although they have the connectors
>is there any way of getting a better price
The major distributors are Mouser, Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
want to look at surplus distributors such as All Electronics,
Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a surplus distributor) Jameco.
I've dealt with all of them, they're quite reliable. Sometimes prices
for the major distributors do vary a bit, but be sure to figure in
shipping and taxes as well.
Harvey
>
>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard leads
>
>
>
>Best Regards Paul B
>
> _____
>
>From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>
>
>
>
>
>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to match
>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>
>http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv
>
>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>
>
>
>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end and 5-1761184-1
>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
>
>
>
>These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>Arrow, etc.
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=1-1761184-1-ND
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=5-1761184-1-ND
>
>
>
>Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than HP-HIL.
>
>
>
>I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the "A" keyed
>connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses RS-485 vs.
>HP-HIL. similar to: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281933654336
>
>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle of the LCD
>display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically latched. The
>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on both ends and it has a
>different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables might
>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable or by remapping the the wiring and
>hacking the "A" key to fit in a "E" receptacle.
>
>
>
>I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
>research/evaluation. I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I don't
>represent any of the vendors.
>
>
>
>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a "real"
>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>cables. Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>suspended.
>
>
>
>No virus found in this message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date: 04/05/17
|
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
Hi Harvey
thank you for the posting and the link unfortunately ?Paul Berger posted ?On 2017-04-04
7:45 PM
These
are not actually converter modules, they just break out some connections on one
side there is a 10 pin RJ-45 like connector which is the connection to the
system and this module just breaks out PS/2 keyboard and mouse connectors and a
HP-HIL connector, they do not contain any electronics.?
so I think we need someone to take up the challenge
and make a real adaptor
?
Paul B?? UK?
?
With all these Pauls do we need to extend
the signature eg? Paul B??? USA
/ Paul B? Can /??? Paul B?? UK?
???just a thought
From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 09 July 2017 18:20
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re:
[hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
?
?
You
should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
|
|
|
|
HP HIL PS2 Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module
frre shipping | eBay
Selling a used working HP HIL PS2
Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module frre shipping to lower 48 states only. |
eBay!
|
?
|
|
|
On
Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:16 AM, "Harvey White madyn@...
[hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
wrote:
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Show quoted text
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all
>>
>Just a follow on from the E mail below so thank you to the author I
>believe is named Bruno
>
>Did someone offer to make an inter face between different keyboards eg (
>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>
>Also Digi key is a new company to me and although they have the connectors
>is there any way of getting a better price
The major distributors are Mouser, Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
want to look at surplus distributors such as All Electronics,
Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a surplus distributor) Jameco.
I've dealt with all of them, they're quite reliable. Sometimes prices
for the major distributors do vary a bit, but be sure to figure in
shipping and taxes as well.
Harvey
>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard leads
>
>Best Regards Paul B
>
>
>From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>
>
>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to
match
>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>
>http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv
>
>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>
>
>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end and
5-1761184-1
>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
>
>
>These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>Arrow, etc.
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=1-1761184-1-ND
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=5-1761184-1-ND
>
>
>
>Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than
HP-HIL.
>
>
>
>I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the
"A" keyed
>connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses RS-485 vs.
>HP-HIL. similar to: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281933654336
>
>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle of
the LCD
>display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically latched. The
>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on both ends and it
has a
>different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables might
>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable or by remapping the the
wiring and
>hacking the "A" key to fit in a "E" receptacle.
>
>
>
>I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
>research/evaluation. I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I don't
>represent any of the vendors.
>
>
>
>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a
"real"
>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>cables. Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>suspended.
>
>
>
>No virus found in this message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date: 04/05/17
?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG -
Version: 2016.0.8013 / Virus Database: 4779/14666 - Release Date: 07/09/17
|
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
Paul,
Wow, I did not know. thanks for the heads up.
Jim
On Sunday, July 9, 2017 10:29 AM, "Paul Berger phb.hfx@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:
?
That is not a HP-HIL? <-> PS/2 adapter that is just a
connector box that was used on certain HP 9000 workstations to
bring? out connectors for HP-HIL and PS/2 it does not contain any
electronics, I know I fell for a auction like this.
Paul.
On 2017-07-09 2:19 PM, Dogma
amgod@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
?
Hi
Harvey,
You
should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
On
Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:16 AM, "Harvey White
madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
wrote:
?
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100,
you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>
>
>Just a follow on from the E mail
below so thank you to the author I
>believe is named Bruno
>
>
>
>Did someone offer to make an inter
face between different keyboards eg (
>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>
>
>
>Also Digi key is a new company to
me and although they have the
connectors
>is there any way of getting a
better price
The major distributors are Mouser,
Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
want to look at surplus distributors
such as All Electronics,
Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a
surplus distributor) Jameco.
I've dealt with all of them, they're
quite reliable. Sometimes prices
for the major distributors do vary a
bit, but be sure to figure in
shipping and taxes as well.
Harvey
>
>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard
leads
>
>
>
>Best Regards Paul B
>
> _____
>
>From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
>[ mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>To:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment]
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>
>
>
>
>
>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors
1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to
match
>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>
>
><
>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>
>
>
>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key
for the One-Dot cable end and
5-1761184-1
>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot
cable end.
>
>
>
>These appear to be a stocked item
at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>Arrow, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Other manufacturer may be using
the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>Positions Position Shielded Crimp
connectors for products other than
HP-HIL.
>
>
>
>I happened to have an IBM Point of
Sale LCD Display that uses the "A"
keyed
>connector for it's
receptacles/cables though it likely
uses RS-485 vs.
>HP-HIL. similar to:
>
>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of
an HP-HIL in the receptacle of the LCD
>display and it made good
electrical contact and mechanically
latched. The
>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A"
connectors on both ends and it has a
>different pinout than the HP-HIL
cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables
might
>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL
cable or by remapping the the wiring
and
>hacking the "A" key to fit in a
"E" receptacle.
>
>
>
>I provide this to add to the
discussion and possibly stimulate
others
>research/evaluation. I make no
claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I
don't
>represent any of the vendors.
>
>
>
>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard
that I might use to help develop a
"real"
>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it
was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>cables. Also, my plan use for my
logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>parts for a newer logic analyzer
with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>suspended.
>
>
>
>No virus found in this message.
>Checked by AVG -
>Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus
Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date:
04/05/17
|
or a pair of 56 kbps modems at each end and
Z-Modem . Actually I have a similar system and have a
read only CD player installed so I can port large files into the
DOS PC when needed.
Gedas, W8BYA
Gallery at
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
On 7/9/2017 1:33 PM, Glen Slick
glen.slick@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Show quoted text
?
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:09 AM, 'Paul Bicknell'
paul@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
>
> Hi Glen
>
> Thank you for the posting what software do you use on
the host PC ?
>
> Can I use Widows XP or do I have to use Widows 98 or
even DOS 3.4 ??
>
> I prefer XP as this supports the USB ports and
external memory devises
>
> Regards Paul B
I just set up a dedicated system that boots into MS-DOS
6.22 with no
version of Windows of any kind installed.
If I needed to easily and quickly move files between the
HP BASIC
system and a modern system I would probably add an
Ethernet card to
the HP BASIC system and run mTCP software on top of DOS to
FTP files
to and from the system.
You could also set up a system that could dual boot into
either DOS or
some version of Windows so you could boot into DOS when
you want to
run HP BASIC and then boot into Windows when you want to
do stuff on
Windows.
-Glen
|
On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:09 AM, 'Paul Bicknell' paul@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
Hi Glen
Thank you for the posting what software do you use on the host PC ?
Can I use Widows XP or do I have to use Widows 98 or even DOS 3.4 ??
I prefer XP as this supports the USB ports and external memory devises
Regards Paul B
I just set up a dedicated system that boots into MS-DOS 6.22 with no version of Windows of any kind installed. If I needed to easily and quickly move files between the HP BASIC system and a modern system I would probably add an Ethernet card to the HP BASIC system and run mTCP software on top of DOS to FTP files to and from the system. You could also set up a system that could dual boot into either DOS or some version of Windows so you could boot into DOS when you want to run HP BASIC and then boot into Windows when you want to do stuff on Windows. -Glen
|
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
That is not a HP-HIL? <-> PS/2 adapter that is just a
connector box that was used on certain HP 9000 workstations to
bring? out connectors for HP-HIL and PS/2 it does not contain any
electronics, I know I fell for a auction like this.
Paul.
On 2017-07-09 2:19 PM, Dogma
amgod@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
?
Hi
Harvey,
You
should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
On
Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:16 AM, "Harvey White
madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
wrote:
?
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100,
you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>
>
>Just a follow on from the E mail
below so thank you to the author I
>believe is named Bruno
>
>
>
>Did someone offer to make an inter
face between different keyboards eg (
>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>
>
>
>Also Digi key is a new company to
me and although they have the
connectors
>is there any way of getting a
better price
The major distributors are Mouser,
Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
want to look at surplus distributors
such as All Electronics,
Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a
surplus distributor) Jameco.
I've dealt with all of them, they're
quite reliable. Sometimes prices
for the major distributors do vary a
bit, but be sure to figure in
shipping and taxes as well.
Harvey
>
>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard
leads
>
>
>
>Best Regards Paul B
>
> _____
>
>From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
>[ mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>To:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment]
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>
>
>
>
>
>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors
1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to
match
>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>
>
><
>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>
>
>
>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key
for the One-Dot cable end and
5-1761184-1
>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot
cable end.
>
>
>
>These appear to be a stocked item
at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>Arrow, etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Other manufacturer may be using
the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>Positions Position Shielded Crimp
connectors for products other than
HP-HIL.
>
>
>
>I happened to have an IBM Point of
Sale LCD Display that uses the "A"
keyed
>connector for it's
receptacles/cables though it likely
uses RS-485 vs.
>HP-HIL. similar to:
>
>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of
an HP-HIL in the receptacle of the LCD
>display and it made good
electrical contact and mechanically
latched. The
>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A"
connectors on both ends and it has a
>different pinout than the HP-HIL
cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables
might
>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL
cable or by remapping the the wiring
and
>hacking the "A" key to fit in a
"E" receptacle.
>
>
>
>I provide this to add to the
discussion and possibly stimulate
others
>research/evaluation. I make no
claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I
don't
>represent any of the vendors.
>
>
>
>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard
that I might use to help develop a
"real"
>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it
was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>cables. Also, my plan use for my
logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>parts for a newer logic analyzer
with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>suspended.
>
>
>
>No virus found in this message.
>Checked by AVG -
>Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus
Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date:
04/05/17
|
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
Hi Harvey,
You should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
On Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:16 AM, "Harvey White madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:
?
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all
>
>
>
>Just a follow on from the E mail below so thank you to the author I
>believe is named Bruno
>
>
>
>Did someone offer to make an inter face between different keyboards eg (
>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>
>
>
>Also Digi key is a new company to me and although they have the connectors
>is there any way of getting a better price
The major distributors are Mouser, Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
want to look at surplus distributors such as All Electronics,
Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a surplus distributor) Jameco.
I've dealt with all of them, they're quite reliable. Sometimes prices
for the major distributors do vary a bit, but be sure to figure in
shipping and taxes as well.
Harvey
>
>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard leads
>
>
>
>Best Regards Paul B
>
> _____
>
>From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>
>
>
>
>
>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to match
>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>
>http://www.te.com/commerce/DocumentDelivery/DDEController?Action=srchrtrv
>
>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>
>
>
>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end and 5-1761184-1
>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
>
>
>
>These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>Arrow, etc.
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=1-1761184-1-ND
>
>https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=5-1761184-1-ND
>
>
>
>Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than HP-HIL.
>
>
>
>I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the "A" keyed
>connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses RS-485 vs.
>HP-HIL. similar to: http://www.ebay.com/itm/281933654336
>
>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle of the LCD
>display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically latched. The
>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on both ends and it has a
>different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables might
>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable or by remapping the the wiring and
>hacking the "A" key to fit in a "E" receptacle.
>
>
>
>I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
>research/evaluation. I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I don't
>represent any of the vendors.
>
>
>
>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a "real"
>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>cables. Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>suspended.
>
>
>
>No virus found in this message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date: 04/05/17
|
Hi Glen
?
Thank you for the posting? what software
do you use on the host PC ??
?
Can I use Widows XP??? or do I have to use
Widows 98??? or even DOS 3.4 ??
?
I prefer XP as this supports the USB
ports?? and? external memory devises
?
Regards Paul B
From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 09 July 2017 17:59
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re:
[hp_agilent_equipment] Viper HPIB port
?
?
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On Sun,
Jul 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM, paul@...
[hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
>
> Hi all regarding the Viper HPIB port
>
> Wondered if anyone can point me into the right direction to resurrecting
this old processer
>
> Must the computer have XP on to install the Viper software ?
>
> Dues any one have any documentation relating to the bored
>
> Best Regards Paul B
There are two main versions, the 68000 based 82321 and the 68030 based 82324
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=681
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=909
Those pages have links to documentation and HP BASIC 5.14 and HP BASIC
6.2 software disks.
The actual BASIC software runs on the 68K processor on the board. Part
of the software also runs on the host PC to connect the PC keyboard,
display, and storage devices to BASIC software running on the 68K
processor. The host PC software runs on top of plain DOS. You need to
install it on a PC that can boot into plain DOS, not any form of
Windows while the software is running. Obviously the PC also needs to
be old enough that it has an ISA bus slot to install the board.
I have both 82321 and 82324 boards and have gone through the exercise
of getting them set up and running on an old PC.
-Glen
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On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:00 AM, paul@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:
Hi all regarding the Viper HPIB port
Wondered if anyone can point me into the right direction to resurrecting this old processer
Must the computer have XP on to install the Viper software ?
Dues any one have any documentation relating to the bored
Best Regards Paul B
There are two main versions, the 68000 based 82321 and the 68030 based 82324 Those pages have links to documentation and HP BASIC 5.14 and HP BASIC 6.2 software disks. The actual BASIC software runs on the 68K processor on the board. Part of the software also runs on the host PC to connect the PC keyboard, display, and storage devices to BASIC software running on the 68K processor. The host PC software runs on top of plain DOS. You need to install it on a PC that can boot into plain DOS, not any form of Windows while the software is running. Obviously the PC also needs to be old enough that it has an ISA bus slot to install the board. I have both 82321 and 82324 boards and have gone through the exercise of getting them set up and running on an old PC. -Glen
|
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100, you wrote: Hi all
Just a follow on from the E mail below so thank you to the author I
believe is named Bruno
Did someone offer to make an inter face between different keyboards eg (
mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
Also Digi key is a new company to me and although they have the connectors
is there any way of getting a better price The major distributors are Mouser, Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might want to look at surplus distributors such as All Electronics, Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a surplus distributor) Jameco. I've dealt with all of them, they're quite reliable. Sometimes prices for the major distributors do vary a bit, but be sure to figure in shipping and taxes as well. Harvey
As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard leads
Best Regards Paul B
_____
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to match
the HP-HIL cable connectors.
<
ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end and 5-1761184-1
has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
Arrow, etc.
Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than HP-HIL.
I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the "A" keyed
connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses RS-485 vs.
HP-HIL. similar to:
I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle of the LCD
display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically latched. The
IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on both ends and it has a
different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables might
be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable or by remapping the the wiring and
hacking the "A" key to fit in a "E" receptacle.
I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
research/evaluation. I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I don't
represent any of the vendors.
I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a "real"
PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
cables. Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
suspended.
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <>
Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date: 04/05/17
|
Hi all regarding the ?????Viper HPIB port
Wondered if anyone can point me into the right direction to resurrecting
this old processer
?
Must the computer have XP on to install the Viper software? ?
Dues any one have any documentation relating to the bored
?
Best Regards Paul B
|
Hi all regarding HP Basic
Can I use later basic to run early programs ??
As in the 8568 verification software
It requests? Basic 2
and extensions 2.1
Or basic 3.0 or 4.0 but it must have
MAT? 3.0 or 4.0
IO ??3.0 or 4.0
GRAPH 3.0 or 4.1
PDEV 3.0 or 4.0
HPIB 3.0 or? 4.0?
Al the above is a mystery to me
Could someone please explain as I am going to use?Basic 5.1
Regards Paul B
|
I have a HP 8082A that I got on Ebay for a great price. The front panel needs a good cleaning and the power supply caps need changing. It works correctly, I would like to perform a calibration. The manual specifies a 15265 test box in the calibration procedure. Does anyone have any info on this test box.?
Thanks Gary
|
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
Hi all
?
Just a follow on from the E mail below ?so
thank you to the author? I believe is named? Bruno
?
Did someone offer to make an inter face between
different keyboards eg ( mine din or USB? )? to HP-HIL USB
?
Also Digi key is a new company to me and although
they have the connectors is there any way of getting a better price
As i require 2 HP-HIL ?Keyboard leads
?
Best Regards Paul B
From:
hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment]
Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
?
?
The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to
match the HP-HIL cable connectors.
Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end
and 5-1761184-1 has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar:
Mouser, Arrow, etc.
Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than HP-HIL.
I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the
"A" keyed connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses
RS-485 vs. HP-HIL. similar to:?
I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle
of the LCD display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically
latched. ?The IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on
both ends and it has a different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. ?Still,
similar IBM POS cables might be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable
or by remapping the the wiring and hacking the "A" key to fit in a
"E" receptacle.
I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
research/evaluation. ?I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I
don't represent any of the vendors. ?
I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a
"real" PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with
modular cables. ?Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as
spare parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. ?So, my converter plans
are suspended.?
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG -
Version: 2016.0.8012 / Virus Database: 4769/14245 - Release Date: 04/05/17
|
Hi ?Pete
?
Back in May you posted the item
below? have you managed to locate the hd's, floppy,
?drives in your Basement
And if so have you found any date for the 70000 equipment or any HPIB
drives
?
Best Regards Paul B????
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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 13 May 2017 23:23
To: Unknown
Subject: Re:
[hp_agilent_equipment] HP9845
?
All this talk about hp computers reminds me that I have several of the
old hp computers, ?hd's, floppy, ?drives, ?etc. (5 or 6 boxes of
stuff) ?in the basement.? I was going to put them up for sale a few
years ago but forgot. ? I was going to ask a ridiculous low amount but no
shipping¡ want them picked up and gone basically. ? Anyone need these.?
The other thing is I see people wanting to run basic 5.1 I think,
?on these. ? How different is that from hp basic for windows which I
still have new in the box ( not selling).?
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The only one I found is on evil pay.
RICH
From: "'Dick Benson' w1qg@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 895A power supply
?
Greetings,
?
?? I
cannot seem to find any docs on the HP model 895A (325V, 1.5A) power supply.
??
Does anyone have a schematic ???
?
?? On
a related note, it appears that the series pass transistors are smoked.
?? HP
PN 1850-0168 and the only data I find is they are a PNP Ge.
??
There does not appear to be a Xref for this #.?
?
???
Any info on this beast (70 lbs or so of it) would be appreciated.
?
Thanks,
?
Dick (w1qg) ?
?
Sent
from?a Logic Free Zone deep within The Peoples Republic of California
?
?
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I see one of those on ebay. Jerry
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Paul Bicknell
Bruce Lane
Gary Neilson