Ed:
Thanks, but that is not for anythng related to H.P. Equipment. The one I am looking for is a Note on using the 8559B series Spectrum Analyzers.
The one most found is the 150 (no B ) which is a VERY good note on using any S.A.
Thanks for loking,
Chuck
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Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] AN-150-B
Chuck,
A simple search on Yahoo turned up this URL:
This should be what you are after.
Ed Lawrence WA5SWD
Cell 970-481-4491 Home 970-568-4400
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Re: 70300A CLIP MANUAL DETERIORATION UPDATE
Bruce
My impression after working with this for awhile is that print was
folded while the page was still warmer and the toner to toner facing
pages are actually fused. But if you run on to a large vacuum dryer let
me know. Again as I think about that the drying would result in
contraction which would in turn result in shear forces and so far
tensile forces (perpendicular to the plane of the paper) seem to work
MUCH better
Dave
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Dave,
I have followed this thread with interest as I have occasionally run into
"fused" pages in documents in the past. During the online discussions I
have wondered if the contraction resulting from vacuum-drying the
prints might
break the toner bonds in the correct places. It has been possible to save
water-soaked valuable books through immediate freezing and later vacuum
drying. Of course it would be necessary to find a suitable vessel to try
this.
Bruce
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PO Box 175
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Chuck,
A simple search on Yahoo turned up this URL:
This should be what you are after.
Ed Lawrence WA5SWD
Cell 970-481-4491 Home 970-568-4400
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From: Chuck <j-mcclurg@...>
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Sat, March 9, 2013 10:32:34 PM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] AN-150-B
Does any one have a copy of HP application Note 150-B? I am looking for the B
version, not the more common 150.
If any one has one I would like a copy of it, to go with my 853/8559B set up.
Thanks,
Chuck McClurg
N7UVZ
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Jay:
I'll try the Omniflop.
I doubt it will translate a basic file that is hex tokens into an ascii file.
Dan in Chandler, AZ
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Hi Dan,
I'd still give Omniflop a try. It's free, and it seems much easier to me. According to the website, it'd do exactly what you were looking for in terms of reading the disk, and saving the image to a Windows machine. Creating a new disk would consist of writing the image from the Windows machine back to a floppy disk.
Jay
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "danaz.chandler" <djn@> wrote:
Jay:
I have had success! This is what I learned:
* Use Agilent LIFUTIL to pull the file off the HP LIF diskette
^ Drive has to be built in so the floppy controller chip is able to be directly instructed by the software.
^ Has to be a FAT or FAT32 machine or the software barfs.
^ Often the file on the HP LIF diskette is a tokenized basic. This means that one or more hex values have been saved instead of the ascii text. So "GOTO" will be a HEX value.
# So far, the only way to convert an HP tokenized basic file to an ASCII file is to load it into a vintage HP series 300 computer and then re-save in the ascii format. The LIFUTIL has to be run to save the header information.
A lot of steps, but it is possible with help from our HP cloud to get important software off of LIF disks....
Dan in Chandler, AZ
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "jayw_comark" <jayw_comark@> wrote:
A bit late to this discussion, but have you given this a try?
Jay
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "danaz.chandler" <djn@> wrote:
I need to convert software on a LIF 3.5" Floppy and save on a Windows 7 machine. All the utilities I have seen won't.
So, I thought....Load the diskette into my HP 4195A, bring up Vee Pro 9.2, install a panel driver and access the floppy that way.
However, I am such a novice with Vee, that I don't know how to transfer the file to my hard disk...Any pointers?
Dan in Chandler, AZ
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
?it should show 32 channels too.
it only shows 2 pods, A and B in the trigger menu I can select up to 4 groups with 16 channels each. This means I have 32 channels ? --- On Sun, 3/10/13, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote: From: Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 5:09 PM ? That is an easy question to answer: If it is a 318, it will acquire at 20ns: async or sync... I don't recall if the glitch position changes the maximum acquisition rate, but you might want to check... The only difference between the 338 and the 318 is the acquisition memory board, and that is what determines the maximum acquisition speed. It could be that your 318 is thinking it is a 338, I would think if that is so it should show 32 channels too. Perhaps your 318's CPU is misreading the acquisition board's ID? -Chuck Harris Gala Dragos wrote: Hi! Anybody has a Sony/Tektronix 318 logic analyzer? Can you tell me the fastest CLK that you can select for acquisition? Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: 70300A CLIP MANUAL DETERIORATION UPDATE
Dave,
I have followed this thread with interest as I have occasionally run into
"fused" pages in documents in the past. During the online discussions I
have wondered if the contraction resulting from vacuum-drying the prints might
break the toner bonds in the correct places. It has been possible to save
water-soaked valuable books through immediate freezing and later vacuum
drying. Of course it would be necessary to find a suitable vessel to try
this.
Bruce
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
I'm cross posting from the Tek scopes group...
I have both 318 and 338 baby logic analyzers. Cute little things.
They both run identical hardware with exception of the acquisition board pair. Configuration is determined on boot up.
As mentioned earlier, you will see either two banks of ports on the [SETUP] menu if it's 318, or four if it's a 338.
On power-up, both units default to "50 nS" clk rate (internal) setting.
To change:
On the [TRIGGER] menu, EDIT [->] three times, then DATA [DECR] (B) to increase sample rate.
The 318 sequence should be:
"50 nS" -> "20 nS" -> "EXT \>" -> "EXT />" -> "500mS" (warps around) ...
Much of the 318/338 hardware registers are write-only, and the clock rate cannot be accurately identified by the CPU itself.
The clock ASIC diagnostic screen can only set the clock rate, and you have to use a scope to verify the generated clock.
If you cannot set the 20 nS clock rate, I would suspect that the CPU is mis-identifiying the hardware. Try reseating the dual ACQ boards, and the CPU/Display board.
Note that the 318/338's were designed in the early days, when static sensitivity was considerably worse. We take for granted these days the robustness of modern logic chips that seem to be impervious to static charge. Work on your 318 in a static controlled environment!
Good luck in your diagnosis.
All for now.
Sbirdasn.
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
That is an easy question to answer: If it is a 318, it
will acquire at 20ns: async or sync... I don't recall if
the glitch position changes the maximum acquisition rate,
but you might want to check...
The only difference between the 338 and the 318 is the
acquisition memory board, and that is what determines
the maximum acquisition speed.
It could be that your 318 is thinking it is a 338, I
would think if that is so it should show 32 channels too.
Perhaps your 318's CPU is misreading the acquisition
board's ID?
-Chuck Harris
Gala Dragos wrote:
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Anybody has a Sony/Tektronix 318 logic analyzer?
Can you tell me the fastest CLK that you can select for acquisition?
Thanks.
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I'll look later,but I think it's 20 or 50 nS.
-John
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Anybody has a Sony/Tektronix 318 logic analyzer?
Can you tell me the fastest CLK that you can select for???acquisition?
Thanks.
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OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
Hi!
Anybody has a Sony/Tektronix 318 logic analyzer?
Can you tell me the fastest CLK that you can select for?acquisition?
Thanks.
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Hi Dan,
I'd still give Omniflop a try. It's free, and it seems much easier to me. According to the website, it'd do exactly what you were looking for in terms of reading the disk, and saving the image to a Windows machine. Creating a new disk would consist of writing the image from the Windows machine back to a floppy disk.
Jay
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--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "danaz.chandler" <djn@...> wrote:
Jay:
I have had success! This is what I learned:
* Use Agilent LIFUTIL to pull the file off the HP LIF diskette
^ Drive has to be built in so the floppy controller chip is able to be directly instructed by the software.
^ Has to be a FAT or FAT32 machine or the software barfs.
^ Often the file on the HP LIF diskette is a tokenized basic. This means that one or more hex values have been saved instead of the ascii text. So "GOTO" will be a HEX value.
# So far, the only way to convert an HP tokenized basic file to an ASCII file is to load it into a vintage HP series 300 computer and then re-save in the ascii format. The LIFUTIL has to be run to save the header information.
A lot of steps, but it is possible with help from our HP cloud to get important software off of LIF disks....
Dan in Chandler, AZ
================================================
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "jayw_comark" <jayw_comark@> wrote:
A bit late to this discussion, but have you given this a try?
Jay
--- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "danaz.chandler" <djn@> wrote:
I need to convert software on a LIF 3.5" Floppy and save on a Windows 7 machine. All the utilities I have seen won't.
So, I thought....Load the diskette into my HP 4195A, bring up Vee Pro 9.2, install a panel driver and access the floppy that way.
However, I am such a novice with Vee, that I don't know how to transfer the file to my hard disk...Any pointers?
Dan in Chandler, AZ
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Re: switch controllers 3499A vs 3488A?
-- In hp_agilent_equipment@...
<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:hp_
agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>, "W2HX" wrote:
>
> Hi all, is there a significant benefit of the 3499A controller vs the
3488A controller? The 3488's are dirt cheap (empty).
>
>
> 73 Eugene W2HX
Dunnu about the 3499A, but if you get the parallel I/O card for the 3488A
you can auto step through a series of inputs to another card by tying
one line of the parallel card input to the "read out stable " or "print
pulse" from
the back of a system DVM without the need of HPIB
John B
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Does any one have a copy of HP application Note 150-B? I am looking for the B version, not the more common 150.
If any one has one I would like a copy of it, to go with my 853/8559B set up.
Thanks,
Chuck McClurg
N7UVZ
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70300A CLIP MANUAL DETERIORATION UPDATE
First let me say that a number of different methods as suggested by the group were tried in freeing the toner ink page face bonding problem. None resulted in foolproof and repeatable results. An email exchange with a couple of document restoration entities produced no better results.
In general the process that seems to produce some benefit is as follows
1) Freezing the pages and then flexing them sharply by pulling them back and forth over the edge of a table while still cold serves to break some but not all of the bonds. Rolfing them so to speak
2)Then carefully using a very thin but not sharp blade with a rounded tip such as a very old butter knife or painters mixing knife. Slowly teasing the stuck surfaces apart as vertically as possible (think tensile bonds versus shear bonds) from each other.
In the end the pages once separated were still not useable anymore, to many missing letters , broken lines etc. Scanning the resulting degraded document and then using a photo editor such a Paint or Photoshop to painstakingly redo lines and symbols, with a lot of deductive research and reference back to the board layout and parts list the document was ultimately electronically recreated. In the case of one schematic A8A1 our separation attempts resulted in an unrestorable document . Another list member (Dan in Chandler, AZ) also had a copy of the same CLIP. The bad news is Dan's attempts to open his own A8A1 page was worse than mine, resulting in as feared an unusable schematic, the good news is that several of the destroyed areas on my schematic were readable on Dan's and vice versa , those areas commonly damaged on both schematics were largely restored using PC Paint, and deductive logic, in all it took nearly 8 hours of graphic editing mouse time just to restore that one page which I feel is 99.5% accurate now ( I also found a couple of HP errrors in the process :-) )
After prying apart many pages ( the 70300A CLIP is fully restored) I tend to believe that the problem is not one of time making it worse but rather that the original process in that the pages had too much toner , improperly fused and quite possibly sent to the folding machine while they were still warm , bonding is clearly worse near the folded edge than farther out. I will now take my restored D size drawings to my local repo house and have them reprinted and stored with the original binder. If any one would like to purchase the original and restored CLIP contact me off list, digital copies will be soon be available as well
Dave
ArtekManuals.com
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Re: Lamps and Mains Lead for HP412A?
Thanks Bob.
A very good range...
73,
Mike
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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: Lamps and Mains Lead for HP412A?
I have an HP411 which is an RF power meter with the same clock work motor and photo interrupter setup as I suspect the 412 has. I got replacement bulbs from a place on the Internet called Bulbtown. You might Google the name but they had all kinds of type 47 bulbs and the type that are used in the HP stuff. They even had the blue tinted bulbs used in my old Drake 4 line ham transciever.
Bob
N2CBH
> > I've just acquired an HP412A & would like to find some replacement lamps for the choppers.
> >
> > They are a G4 base, 6.3v, 0.15A lamp.
> > Digikey, Mouser, Farnell nor RS seem to have them.
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Re: HP 8640B Troubleshooting help needed
Hi Bob,
I'm glad you solved the problem. I'm about to fix my second HP-8640B
that I had originally acquired as a parts unit and then I decided it
was almost worth fixing it. These are great generators.
Best 73
Frank IZ8DWF
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On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 2:59 AM, kn4hhptc <kn4hhptc@...> wrote:
Frank, thank you for the suggestion. The -20volt regulator had failed. After replacement, the unit works very well.
Thanks again.
73, Bob, KN4HH
Sent from Samsung tabletfrancesco messineo <francesco.messineo@...> wrote:As in almost all electronic troubleshooting, I'd start with checking
all power supplies.
good luck
Frank IZ8DWF
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM, kn4hhptc <kn4hhptc@...> wrote:
Good day, all. I have a HP8640B signal generator that I use to service and maintain vintage amateur radio equipment. It has worked perfectly until today. After applying line voltage, the output meter pegs to the right and the frequency counter reads all zero's. No front panel controls have any effect on this condition. I would appreciate some advice on where to start looking for the problem. I have the service manual.
Thanks for any assistance,
Bob, KN4HH
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Maybe some do, but I know the current PNA series of Network Analyzers do not....unless you count the hard drives. HDDs do keep track of the number of hours they are turned on; as well as number of power cycles. So I guess, you could say that most modern instruments do keep track. Of course, if you replace the HDD, that data is lost.
I assume SSDs also keep track of the same info.
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Dear All,
Do the (more modern?) units keep a track of their power on time?
For example I am thinking of my 34410A...
???
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Susan.
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I don't know about the OP's question, but the 856xE series definately had an elapsed hours count, possibly as the CRT has a finite life...
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Hi Susan,
HP only put timers in instruments that had things that were 'used up',
like Cs beam standards, sweepers with BWO tubes, and so on. They used
little Curtis (?) ETMs, composed of a capilliary filled w/ mercury and a
drop of electrolyte. The position of the Hg gap was proportional to the
A-H through the device.
In newer stuff, there may be an ETM built into the software, but I don't
know.
FWIW,
-John
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Dear All,
Do the (more modern?) units keep a track of their power on time?
For example I am thinking of my 34410A...
???
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Susan.
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Hi Susan,
HP only put timers in instruments that had things that were 'used up',
like Cs beam standards, sweepers with BWO tubes, and so on. They used
little Curtis (?) ETMs, composed of a capilliary filled w/ mercury and a
drop of electrolyte. The position of the Hg gap was proportional to the
A-H through the device.
In newer stuff, there may be an ETM built into the software, but I don't
know.
FWIW,
-John
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Dear All,
Do the (more modern?) units keep a track of their power on time?
For example I am thinking of my 34410A...
???
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Susan.
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Re: HP 8620C with 86222B-H69 rf plug in ( with a US serial number )
The number 6625-01-036 3730 is the NSN, National Stock Number, not serial.
You should look for:
The 86222B manual and the H29 Option
-John
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I have a old HP8620b with rf 86222B-H29 plug in probably made specially
for the defence at that time . The output that is not leveled i would
like to find the service manual or a place where i could find it , unless
somebody has experience with the unit.( It appear also that when you want
to plug another rf plug in it is not compatible even with a adapter
probably because it was made specially ??) the US serial is 6625-01-036
3730 )
thank you
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