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Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

The 5v supply MUST have a load on it or the other supplies will not be regulated?correctly (in the manual).
I am running it connected to the 8753B and an easy test is to 'scope the trip EN to the reset timer and add more load until it trips.
I can also jumper a resistor to force a trip as well.
It is worth learning about anyway.
Peter

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:59 AM Rich Miller via <av8torrich=[email protected]> wrote:
Not to pile on - I have run the supply outside the case for over an hour. I see no ripple which would alarm me or make me suspect I have a bulk capacitance issue. I too am leaning towards overload trip point. I suppose I will have to figure out some way to load this supply down.?


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

Hey Rich, your thread and the more we learn the better.
The trip point seems to be that heavy current through the over current detection transformer causes enough rectified DC to activate the reset timer. It seems a bit crude and complicated. A TTL input (probably) is not a precise level detector. I want to 'scope that input when I get back to it.?
Where and how did you 'scope the ripple?
Peter

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:59 AM Rich Miller via <av8torrich=[email protected]> wrote:
Not to pile on - I have run the supply outside the case for over an hour. I see no ripple which would alarm me or make me suspect I have a bulk capacitance issue. I too am leaning towards overload trip point. I suppose I will have to figure out some way to load this supply down.?



On Aug 29, 2022, at 9:41 AM, peter bunge <bunge.pjp@...> wrote:

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Thanks Roger, I can see that many faults can cause the cycling?issue, but mine is an intermittent problem.
It has come and gone over more than a year. It could be a filter capacitor that reforms after being cycled a few times then failing after a long period of not being used. The problem is getting worse but is never there when I want to try something.?
The trip is very marginal and disconnecting the LCD cured it and could be repeated many times. I don't think the problem is in the LCD,? I think it draws just enough current to push past the trip point. That was a year ago and I can't get it to fail permanently now.
I want to take a look at the?+5v filter cap and will try to take it apart today. I was hoping for tips. There is a panel with two screws and soldered wires on the front side of the front half of the supply. I'm hoping I don't have to unsolder them.
It could also be something loading the 5v or it could be the trip point has shifted. The overcurrent does not seem to have a well defined reference. Any power supply overload?would?trip it. One thing at a time.
Peter

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:24 AM Roger Henderson <hendorog@...> wrote:
Late to the party but just in case it helps someone:

My 8753C which uses the same PSU had a cycling fault. It was caused by shorted diodes on the A15 Pre-reg board. CR6 and CR7.

Documented here:


Cheers,
Roger



Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

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Not to pile on - I have run the supply outside the case for over an hour. I see no ripple which would alarm me or make me suspect I have a bulk capacitance issue. I too am leaning towards overload trip point. I suppose I will have to figure out some way to load this supply down.?



On Aug 29, 2022, at 9:41 AM, peter bunge <bunge.pjp@...> wrote:

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Thanks Roger, I can see that many faults can cause the cycling?issue, but mine is an intermittent problem.
It has come and gone over more than a year. It could be a filter capacitor that reforms after being cycled a few times then failing after a long period of not being used. The problem is getting worse but is never there when I want to try something.?
The trip is very marginal and disconnecting the LCD cured it and could be repeated many times. I don't think the problem is in the LCD,? I think it draws just enough current to push past the trip point. That was a year ago and I can't get it to fail permanently now.
I want to take a look at the?+5v filter cap and will try to take it apart today. I was hoping for tips. There is a panel with two screws and soldered wires on the front side of the front half of the supply. I'm hoping I don't have to unsolder them.
It could also be something loading the 5v or it could be the trip point has shifted. The overcurrent does not seem to have a well defined reference. Any power supply overload?would?trip it. One thing at a time.
Peter

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:24 AM Roger Henderson <hendorog@...> wrote:
Late to the party but just in case it helps someone:

My 8753C which uses the same PSU had a cycling fault. It was caused by shorted diodes on the A15 Pre-reg board. CR6 and CR7.

Documented here:


Cheers,
Roger

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 14:22, Ozan <ozan_g@...> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 06:12 PM, peter bunge wrote:
Can someone tell me how the control loop in the pre-regulator controls the 5vD supply? What I see is T1 connected to line at E1 and E2 and switching FETs that don't seem to control anything and only drive RT1 and RT2.Is there a winding in the loop that acts like a MagAmp? The common connection of the?FETs connects through capacitor?C8 to A15A1 transformer,?what and where is that? .
What am I missing? The manual is very vague simply stating "The?+5D supply is regulated by the control loop in A15"
Am I missing a schematic? I have one for 08753-60215 and one for 08753-60115. there is a T1 on each board which makes it more confusing.

?

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Hi Peter,
I briefly looked at the schematic of 8753A.

Hopefully 8753E is similar. Mains input is rectified on C3 and C4, RT1 and RT2 are inrush current limiting NTCs. Q1 and Q2 turn on alternatively, creating an AC waveform that flows through C6 (probably C8 in your schematic) and primary of "Power Transformer". Return path of the primary is through "T3 Over Current Detection" transformer and back to mains input through S2 switch (which selects 110/220 tap points). 8753A schematic and board layout show the power transformer on A15 board.?

Ozan


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

Thanks Roger, I can see that many faults can cause the cycling?issue, but mine is an intermittent problem.
It has come and gone over more than a year. It could be a filter capacitor that reforms after being cycled a few times then failing after a long period of not being used. The problem is getting worse but is never there when I want to try something.?
The trip is very marginal and disconnecting the LCD cured it and could be repeated many times. I don't think the problem is in the LCD,? I think it draws just enough current to push past the trip point. That was a year ago and I can't get it to fail permanently now.
I want to take a look at the?+5v filter cap and will try to take it apart today. I was hoping for tips. There is a panel with two screws and soldered wires on the front side of the front half of the supply. I'm hoping I don't have to unsolder them.
It could also be something loading the 5v or it could be the trip point has shifted. The overcurrent does not seem to have a well defined reference. Any power supply overload?would?trip it. One thing at a time.
Peter

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 12:24 AM Roger Henderson <hendorog@...> wrote:
Late to the party but just in case it helps someone:

My 8753C which uses the same PSU had a cycling fault. It was caused by shorted diodes on the A15 Pre-reg board. CR6 and CR7.

Documented here:


Cheers,
Roger

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 14:22, Ozan <ozan_g@...> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 06:12 PM, peter bunge wrote:
Can someone tell me how the control loop in the pre-regulator controls the 5vD supply? What I see is T1 connected to line at E1 and E2 and switching FETs that don't seem to control anything and only drive RT1 and RT2.Is there a winding in the loop that acts like a MagAmp? The common connection of the?FETs connects through capacitor?C8 to A15A1 transformer,?what and where is that? .
What am I missing? The manual is very vague simply stating "The?+5D supply is regulated by the control loop in A15"
Am I missing a schematic? I have one for 08753-60215 and one for 08753-60115. there is a T1 on each board which makes it more confusing.

?

-----
Hi Peter,
I briefly looked at the schematic of 8753A.

Hopefully 8753E is similar. Mains input is rectified on C3 and C4, RT1 and RT2 are inrush current limiting NTCs. Q1 and Q2 turn on alternatively, creating an AC waveform that flows through C6 (probably C8 in your schematic) and primary of "Power Transformer". Return path of the primary is through "T3 Over Current Detection" transformer and back to mains input through S2 switch (which selects 110/220 tap points). 8753A schematic and board layout show the power transformer on A15 board.?

Ozan


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

I figured something like that but does this

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drive this? It would make sense if it did. The 928 is the only clue that it does. E1 and E2 are shown on the schematic as connecting to line,?see below this schematic. I can see where the 5v is compared to the 1.2v ref in U2.?
Thanks Ozan, I think I have it.?
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On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 10:22 PM Ozan <ozan_g@...> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 06:12 PM, peter bunge wrote:
Can someone tell me how the control loop in the pre-regulator controls the 5vD supply? What I see is T1 connected to line at E1 and E2 and switching FETs that don't seem to control anything and only drive RT1 and RT2.Is there a winding in the loop that acts like a MagAmp? The common connection of the?FETs connects through capacitor?C8 to A15A1 transformer,?what and where is that? .
What am I missing? The manual is very vague simply stating "The?+5D supply is regulated by the control loop in A15"
Am I missing a schematic? I have one for 08753-60215 and one for 08753-60115. there is a T1 on each board which makes it more confusing.

?

-----
Hi Peter,
I briefly looked at the schematic of 8753A.

Hopefully 8753E is similar. Mains input is rectified on C3 and C4, RT1 and RT2 are inrush current limiting NTCs. Q1 and Q2 turn on alternatively, creating an AC waveform that flows through C6 (probably C8 in your schematic) and primary of "Power Transformer". Return path of the primary is through "T3 Over Current Detection" transformer and back to mains input through S2 switch (which selects 110/220 tap points). 8753A schematic and board layout show the power transformer on A15 board.?

Ozan


Re: HP 5086-7906 YTO

 

John, thanks for your answer!
It is true what they say, but I forgot to write in the previous message that I tried the two YIG oscillators on both SAs connected to a power meter and they show no signs of life.
The thing that drives me crazy is knowing what I did wrong. Murphy has struck again!


Re: Repair of HP Keysight E4406A VSA

 

Hi Kurt,

Interesting repair. Thanks for the explanation and the document.

Best regards,
Razvan

On 29/08/2022 11:27, Kurt Poulsen wrote:
Hi All

Recently I repaired for a friend his E4406A where a switch was defective
and where the original switch 1GG7-4218 was no longer available.
An alternative switch Hewlett Packard MGS-71018 could be acquired from
RF-Microwave (link in the document attached).
However, the original switch had control voltage as + - 5V but the
substitute 0 and -5V and the two control pin swapped, so a modification
needed.
I did a detailed document how this modification is made.

Kind regards

Kurt


Repair of HP Keysight E4406A VSA

 

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Hi All

Recently I repaired for a friend his E4406A where a switch was defective and where the original switch 1GG7-4218 was no longer available.
An alternative switch
Hewlett Packard MGS-71018 could be acquired from RF-Microwave (link in the document attached).
However, the original switch had control voltage as + - 5V but the substitute 0 and -5V and the two control pin swapped, so a modification needed.
I did a detailed document how this modification is made.

Kind regards

Kurt ?


Re: Hp 8590a spectrum analyzer

 

I have one of those and it fails some of the selftests as well. Vlad here in the forums helped me troubleshoot, but I never found the culprit so I just left it. They are very tricky to trim as the gain is so high.


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

Late to the party but just in case it helps someone:

My 8753C which uses the same PSU had a cycling fault. It was caused by shorted diodes on the A15 Pre-reg board. CR6 and CR7.

Documented here:


Cheers,
Roger

On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 at 14:22, Ozan <ozan_g@...> wrote:
On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 06:12 PM, peter bunge wrote:
Can someone tell me how the control loop in the pre-regulator controls the 5vD supply? What I see is T1 connected to line at E1 and E2 and switching FETs that don't seem to control anything and only drive RT1 and RT2.Is there a winding in the loop that acts like a MagAmp? The common connection of the?FETs connects through capacitor?C8 to A15A1 transformer,?what and where is that? .
What am I missing? The manual is very vague simply stating "The?+5D supply is regulated by the control loop in A15"
Am I missing a schematic? I have one for 08753-60215 and one for 08753-60115. there is a T1 on each board which makes it more confusing.

?

-----
Hi Peter,
I briefly looked at the schematic of 8753A.

Hopefully 8753E is similar. Mains input is rectified on C3 and C4, RT1 and RT2 are inrush current limiting NTCs. Q1 and Q2 turn on alternatively, creating an AC waveform that flows through C6 (probably C8 in your schematic) and primary of "Power Transformer". Return path of the primary is through "T3 Over Current Detection" transformer and back to mains input through S2 switch (which selects 110/220 tap points). 8753A schematic and board layout show the power transformer on A15 board.?

Ozan


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 06:12 PM, peter bunge wrote:
Can someone tell me how the control loop in the pre-regulator controls the 5vD supply? What I see is T1 connected to line at E1 and E2 and switching FETs that don't seem to control anything and only drive RT1 and RT2.Is there a winding in the loop that acts like a MagAmp? The common connection of the?FETs connects through capacitor?C8 to A15A1 transformer,?what and where is that? .
What am I missing? The manual is very vague simply stating "The?+5D supply is regulated by the control loop in A15"
Am I missing a schematic? I have one for 08753-60215 and one for 08753-60115. there is a T1 on each board which makes it more confusing.

?

-----
Hi Peter,
I briefly looked at the schematic of 8753A.

Hopefully 8753E is similar. Mains input is rectified on C3 and C4, RT1 and RT2 are inrush current limiting NTCs. Q1 and Q2 turn on alternatively, creating an AC waveform that flows through C6 (probably C8 in your schematic) and primary of "Power Transformer". Return path of the primary is through "T3 Over Current Detection" transformer and back to mains input through S2 switch (which selects 110/220 tap points). 8753A schematic and board layout show the power transformer on A15 board.?

Ozan


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

Thanks Bruce. I have seen that problem on another 8753 and the fans are very specific.
The symptoms here are different but I will investigate that as well.?
Peter.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 8:40 PM Bruce Lane <kyrrin@...> wrote:
???? I'm coming in late to the discussion, but...

???? My first VNA had a similar problem. The issue turned out to be a
defective case fan. You see, the power supply had a circuit in it to
detect pulses from the fan's tachometer. No fan movement = no pulses =
no full power-on.

???? Just thinking out loud.... Happy tweaking.


On 28-Aug-22 16:53, peter bunge wrote:
> Not so easy to recap. Do you have a list of suitable replacements from
> DigiKey or Mouser?
> How do you get the boards out? Do I have to unsolder anything? Is the
> power switch mounted?to the PCB?
> I have the PreReg supply split open.
> I also do not think this is the problem because the manual
> troubleshooting points to the +5v supply which is where my
> troubleshooting pointed?from a different?direction. If the?caps are
> easy to get at with the boards out I can check them for value and
> resistance. I prefer to identify a?definite fault rather than randomly
> replace components.
> I put the?8753B on a?variac and dropped?the?voltage to 100VAC but
> could?not?trigger the fault. This probably eliminates the rear half of
> the PreReg with the two big capacitors,?but not the front board with
> the six big?caps.
> It worked fine for?a?few hours but the next time I turned it on
> the?fault returned. I took?the?Pr-Regulator out and split the?module
> and turned it on and it?is back to working perfectly. I wiggled
> all?connectors?and cannot?get?it to quit again. I don't think it is a
> bad connection.
> I checked the current in all wires to the display when the fault was
> happening and there was nothing obvious (disconnecting the display
> cured the fault repeatedly but it was only because it dropped the
> drain on the +5v. It is an LCD display).
> It seems more like a marginal?trip point setting which is why I have
> the supply open.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 4:42 PM tony sayer <tony@...> wrote:
>
>? ? ?In message <[email protected]>, Burt K6OQK
>? ? ?<biwa@...> writes
>? ? ?>? ? Rich,
>? ? ?>
>? ? ?>? ? I have cured a lot of weird problems by fixing the obvious
>? ? ?things
>? ? ?>? ? first.? I suspect that if you were to re-cap the power supply
>? ? ?>? ? module you would be pleased.? That's been my experience in
>? ? ?90% of
>? ? ?>? ? the symptoms you describe.
>
>? ? ?FWIW - Mine too!...
>
>? ? ?>
>? ? ?>? ? Burt, K6OQK
>? ? ?>
>
>? ? ?--
>? ? ?Tony Sayer
>
>? ? ?Bancom Communications? ?U.K.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR
kyrrin@...
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)







Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

Can someone tell me how the control loop in the pre-regulator controls the 5vD supply? What I see is T1 connected to line at E1 and E2 and switching FETs that don't seem to control anything and only drive RT1 and RT2.Is there a winding in the loop that acts like a MagAmp? The common connection of the?FETs connects through capacitor?C8 to A15A1 transformer,?what and where is that? .
What am I missing? The manual is very vague simply stating "The?+5D supply is regulated by the control loop in A15"
Am I missing a schematic? I have one for 08753-60215 and one for 08753-60115. there is a T1 on each board which makes it more confusing.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 7:54 PM peter bunge via <bunge.pjp=[email protected]> wrote:
Not so easy to recap. Do you have a list of suitable replacements from DigiKey or Mouser?
How do you get the boards out? Do I have to unsolder anything? Is the power switch mounted?to the PCB?
I have the PreReg supply split open.
I also do not think this is the problem because the manual troubleshooting points to the +5v supply which is where my troubleshooting pointed?from a different?direction. If the?caps are easy to get at with the boards out I can check them for value and resistance. I prefer to identify a?definite fault rather than randomly replace components.?
I put the?8753B on a?variac and dropped?the?voltage to 100VAC but could?not?trigger the fault. This probably eliminates the rear half of the PreReg with the two big capacitors,?but not the front board with the six big?caps.?
It worked fine for?a?few hours but the next time I turned it on the?fault returned. I took?the?Pr-Regulator out and split the?module and turned it on and it?is back to working perfectly. I wiggled all?connectors?and cannot?get?it to quit again. I don't think it is a bad connection.
I checked the current in all wires to the display when the fault was happening and there was nothing obvious (disconnecting the display cured the fault repeatedly but it was only because it dropped the drain on the +5v. It is an LCD display).
It seems more like a marginal?trip point setting which is why I have the supply open.?


On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 4:42 PM tony sayer <tony@...> wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Burt K6OQK
<biwa@...> writes
>? ? Rich,
>
>? ? I have cured a lot of weird problems by fixing the obvious things
>? ? first.? I suspect that if you were to re-cap the power supply
>? ? module you would be pleased.? That's been my experience in 90% of
>? ? the symptoms you describe.

FWIW - Mine too!...

>
>? ? Burt, K6OQK
>? ?

--
Tony Sayer

Bancom Communications? ?U.K.










Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

I'm coming in late to the discussion, but...

??? My first VNA had a similar problem. The issue turned out to be a defective case fan. You see, the power supply had a circuit in it to detect pulses from the fan's tachometer. No fan movement = no pulses = no full power-on.

??? Just thinking out loud.... Happy tweaking.

On 28-Aug-22 16:53, peter bunge wrote:
Not so easy to recap. Do you have a list of suitable replacements from DigiKey or Mouser?
How do you get the boards out? Do I have to unsolder anything? Is the power switch mounted?to the PCB?
I have the PreReg supply split open.
I also do not think this is the problem because the manual troubleshooting points to the +5v supply which is where my troubleshooting pointed?from a different?direction. If the?caps are easy to get at with the boards out I can check them for value and resistance. I prefer to identify a?definite fault rather than randomly replace components.
I put the?8753B on a?variac and dropped?the?voltage to 100VAC but could?not?trigger the fault. This probably eliminates the rear half of the PreReg with the two big capacitors,?but not the front board with the six big?caps.
It worked fine for?a?few hours but the next time I turned it on the?fault returned. I took?the?Pr-Regulator out and split the?module and turned it on and it?is back to working perfectly. I wiggled all?connectors?and cannot?get?it to quit again. I don't think it is a bad connection.
I checked the current in all wires to the display when the fault was happening and there was nothing obvious (disconnecting the display cured the fault repeatedly but it was only because it dropped the drain on the +5v. It is an LCD display).
It seems more like a marginal?trip point setting which is why I have the supply open.


On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 4:42 PM tony sayer <tony@...> wrote:

In message <[email protected]>, Burt K6OQK
<biwa@...> writes
>? ? Rich,
>
>? ? I have cured a lot of weird problems by fixing the obvious
things
>? ? first.? I suspect that if you were to re-cap the power supply
>? ? module you would be pleased.? That's been my experience in
90% of
>? ? the symptoms you describe.

FWIW - Mine too!...

>
>? ? Burt, K6OQK
>

--
Tony Sayer

Bancom Communications? ?U.K.









--
Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR
kyrrin@...
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

Not so easy to recap. Do you have a list of suitable replacements from DigiKey or Mouser?
How do you get the boards out? Do I have to unsolder anything? Is the power switch mounted?to the PCB?
I have the PreReg supply split open.
I also do not think this is the problem because the manual troubleshooting points to the +5v supply which is where my troubleshooting pointed?from a different?direction. If the?caps are easy to get at with the boards out I can check them for value and resistance. I prefer to identify a?definite fault rather than randomly replace components.?
I put the?8753B on a?variac and dropped?the?voltage to 100VAC but could?not?trigger the fault. This probably eliminates the rear half of the PreReg with the two big capacitors,?but not the front board with the six big?caps.?
It worked fine for?a?few hours but the next time I turned it on the?fault returned. I took?the?Pr-Regulator out and split the?module and turned it on and it?is back to working perfectly. I wiggled all?connectors?and cannot?get?it to quit again. I don't think it is a bad connection.
I checked the current in all wires to the display when the fault was happening and there was nothing obvious (disconnecting the display cured the fault repeatedly but it was only because it dropped the drain on the +5v. It is an LCD display).
It seems more like a marginal?trip point setting which is why I have the supply open.?


On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 4:42 PM tony sayer <tony@...> wrote:
In message <[email protected]>, Burt K6OQK
<biwa@...> writes
>? ? Rich,
>
>? ? I have cured a lot of weird problems by fixing the obvious things
>? ? first.? I suspect that if you were to re-cap the power supply
>? ? module you would be pleased.? That's been my experience in 90% of
>? ? the symptoms you describe.

FWIW - Mine too!...

>
>? ? Burt, K6OQK
>? ?

--
Tony Sayer

Bancom Communications? ?U.K.










Re: HP 5086-7906 YTO

 

Picol,
It has been a while since I tried (with partial success) to repair on of these YTOs.? If I recall correctly, the output of the NPN oscillator is buffered by a FET amplifier with the drain fed from the +5v supply.? If that FET is a GaAs type, it probably requires a negative bias to turn off.? It might appear as a (near) short to ground with no negative bias available.
--John Gord


On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 11:18 AM, @Picol wrote:
Hello everyone,
about a year ago, turning on my HP8563E spectrum analyzer, several errors appeared, including the ravenous error 334.
From research on the net, and a direct inspection, I found that the YTO model 5086-7906 was broken.
Pin 1, corresponding to 4 of connector J3, of the 5 VDC power supply, appears to be shorted to ground.
About a month ago, I bought an HP8560E Spectrum Analyzer at a good price with the intention of using its YTO for my HP8563E.
In fact, the analyzer cost me as much as a used YTO!
Before mounting it, I checked that the voltages of +5V, +15V and -15V were present.
Then I mounted the YIG oscillator, checking several times that the connectors were mounted correctly. Which I always do when I reassemble an electronic instrument.
When I turned the spectrum analyzer back on, I found that the new YTO was also broken !! A check of the same confirmed this.
What could I have done wrong? Has anything like this ever happened to anyone? Is there anyone in the group who has experience with these damn YTOs?
Given that I'm not really fasting with electronic instruments, such a thing had never happened to me.
I contacted a local company that repairs the YTO at a price of around 800 euros but I'm afraid that if I don't find out the reason for the break, this too could break ...


Re: HP-8753E Power Cycles at Start Up

 

In message <[email protected]>, Burt K6OQK
<biwa@...> writes
Rich,

I have cured a lot of weird problems by fixing the obvious things
first.? I suspect that if you were to re-cap the power supply
module you would be pleased.? That's been my experience in 90% of
the symptoms you describe.
FWIW - Mine too!...


Burt, K6OQK
--
Tony Sayer

Bancom Communications U.K.


HP 5086-7906 YTO

 

Hello everyone,
about a year ago, turning on my HP8563E spectrum analyzer, several errors appeared, including the ravenous error 334.
From research on the net, and a direct inspection, I found that the YTO model 5086-7906 was broken.
Pin 1, corresponding to 4 of connector J3, of the 5 VDC power supply, appears to be shorted to ground.
About a month ago, I bought an HP8560E Spectrum Analyzer at a good price with the intention of using its YTO for my HP8563E.
In fact, the analyzer cost me as much as a used YTO!
Before mounting it, I checked that the voltages of +5V, +15V and -15V were present.
Then I mounted the YIG oscillator, checking several times that the connectors were mounted correctly. Which I always do when I reassemble an electronic instrument.
When I turned the spectrum analyzer back on, I found that the new YTO was also broken !! A check of the same confirmed this.
What could I have done wrong? Has anything like this ever happened to anyone? Is there anyone in the group who has experience with these damn YTOs?
Given that I'm not really fasting with electronic instruments, such a thing had never happened to me.
I contacted a local company that repairs the YTO at a price of around 800 euros but I'm afraid that if I don't find out the reason for the break, this too could break ...


Re: Hp 8590a spectrum analyzer

Richard Cook
 

Very interesting videos. I scoped the dc power rails and a couple have heavy noise . I don't think it would hurt to recap the swps. I may start there and see if it clears anything up , besides if it doesn't need it now it will soon. I'm wondering if the shotky diodes should be swapped out also on the 1st converter given its age. . I can still get them on ebay.?


Re: PNA Cal Kit Editor software

 

On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 at 14:28, Tony Goodhew <tony_goodhew@...> wrote:
Is this what you're after:

Cal Kit EditorThis Cal Kit editor can be installed on a PC and used to enter or import cal kits without the need for a PNA. Once entered or modified, the kits can then be transferred to the PNA. In addition to being able to import 8510/8753/872x Cal kits with little or no modification needed, this new version also supports the new '.xkt' XML cal kit file format which FieldFox analyzers have begun using and PNA will soon. It uses an interface similar to that used in the PNA, so the learning curve is minimal. Please note that '.ckt' files saved by this new version of this editor will only function for PNAs with Firmware A.07.50 and above. It includes data-based standards capabilities. Refer also to the PNA Help file for instructions.
?this 19 MB msi file. Rev: 1.0.5045.0 (Oct 2013)
?this 2 MB version for 4.83 to 4.87.01 firmware?only!?Rev: A.04.83 (Mar 14 2005)
From?

TonyG

Yes, thank you. I will have to get into the habit of looking there, as it archives most sites. I only know of one website


that was at one time blocking the IP address of the Wayback Machine - for example


which was annoying when I wanted to find out the specification of something I had bought. Maybe the Wayback Machine is using different IP addresses, or maybe Justin has decided to not block it any longer.