Hi,
I have a problem with this instrument.
In analyser mode, when I will activate Zoom function, it freeze during two long minutes and then it works.
When I push Next Window, again 2 long minutes hanging out.
Any idea or diagnostic to run?
What results about clearing RAM or Flash as describe in service manual?
best regards.
tags: E4401B E4403B E4405B E4407B spectrum analyser freeze hangout
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Re: E4406A firmware update Win7/10 problem
Neil, probably the ¡°ancient¡± XP virtual machine would be ideal. If you could also do a full Wireshark capture while doing the update, it might be possible to reverse-engineer the protocol and write a modern replacement. I doubt that they did anything very fancy. It might be a good old TFTP transfer for all I know.
Cheers, Kuba
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2 okt. 2018 kl. 08:51 skrev Neil Smith <neil@...>:
When I try to use the Agilent firmware updater (from the website) for my E4406A, I get warnings about the ancient MS JVM it tries to run. If I mess with the path, I can get it to run, but although the updater runs and netstat shows has a listening port on 0.0.0.0 UDP for BOOTP, it doesn't respond to the BOOTP request from the 4406 during the upgrade. If I run a different bootp agent in place of the updater, it issues a good IP to the 4406. This is the same on a Win7 and two Win10 platforms. (Firewalls and AV disabled in all cases)
All three can read the current cal and config files before I reboot into the bios. After a SEA (02), I see option 0 is the LAN card, so I pick that (03), and then select no interactive (down arrow), and the 4406 asks the LAN for the IP but never gets it.
On the LAN, I have a router, but very oddly, if I remove it and just run a bare Cisco switch with the 4406 and a PC, the 4406 doesn't detect the LAN interface at all. No sign of any obvious broadcast traffic or discovery packets, but I've not (yet) done a port monitor and captured all the L2 traffic on Wireshark. Pings, ftp and telnet all work fine with the 4406 running normally.
If I try to run the updater using the latest javaw.exe (update 181) or java.exe, it throws the usual errors about not being able to find the main class in the .jar
Is there a workaround I can use? Maybe unzip the .jar and put the classes into a folder and tell java to search there? Maybe run an ancient XP VM, or run the thing in Linux? Or can I use PXEboot or tftp with separate bootp, or some other way to get this thing updated? Any hints would be very much appreciated (other than time travel).
Current firmware is from 2000, the one I am trying to use is from 2007. Oh, and of course, the 4406 backlights are totally dead, so I have to use a LED torch to try to read the display.
Neil
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E4406A firmware update Win7/10 problem
When I try to use the Agilent firmware updater (from the website) for my E4406A, I get warnings about the ancient MS JVM it tries to run.? If I mess with the path, I can get it to run, but although the updater runs and netstat shows has a listening port on 0.0.0.0 UDP for BOOTP, it doesn't respond to the BOOTP request from the 4406 during the upgrade.? If I run a different bootp agent in place of the updater, it issues a good IP to the 4406.? This is the same on a Win7 and two Win10 platforms. (Firewalls and AV disabled in all cases)
All three can read the current cal and config files before I reboot into the bios.? After a SEA (02), I see option 0 is the LAN card, so I pick that (03), and then select no interactive (down arrow), and the 4406 asks the LAN for the IP but never gets it.
On the LAN, I have a router, but very oddly, if I remove it and just run a bare Cisco switch with the 4406 and a PC, the 4406 doesn't detect the LAN interface at all.? No sign of any obvious broadcast traffic or discovery packets, but I've not (yet) done a port monitor and captured all the L2 traffic on Wireshark. Pings, ftp and telnet all work fine with the 4406 running normally.
If I try to run the updater using the latest javaw.exe (update 181) or java.exe, it throws the usual errors about not being able to find the main class in the .jar
Is there a workaround I can use?? Maybe unzip the .jar and put the classes into a folder and tell java to search there?? Maybe run an ancient XP VM, or run the thing in Linux? Or can I use PXEboot or tftp with separate bootp, or some other way to get this thing updated?? Any hints would be very much appreciated (other than time travel).
Current firmware is from 2000, the one I am trying to use is from 2007.? Oh, and of course, the 4406 backlights are totally dead, so I have to use a LED torch to try to read the display.
Neil
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Re: MATLAB GPIB Instrument Control Applications
Thanks Dick, I think I do some cherry picking on your matlab effort. Actually did a lot matlab work during the last two decades of my working life.
Saw some interesting instruments among them and use in my homelab either NI usb controller or the cheaper one by Prologix
Best regards Rien PA0JME
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HP 8935 E6380A wont power up
Hi all,
My trusty E6380A failed to proceed this morning and preliminary investigations as to the cause prove zip.
Do these things have a common fault I could go look for ?
Any pointers to what might be the cause ?
Any path to resolution gratefully appreciated.
Service manuals don't have schematics so that's not helpful.
thanks
Tim
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Re: MATLAB GPIB Instrument Control Applications
If you send me an off list email, I can look for some old code re that. I used a HP 6624A and a Solartron 7150. Tam
With best regards Tam HANNA (emailing on a BlackBerry PRIV) Enjoy electronics? Join 11k other followers by visiting the Crazy Electronics Lab at Am 2. Oktober 2018 08:37:47 MESZ schrieb Aaron Jackson <aaron@...>:
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Wow, excellent contributions. I have been wondering if I could get my
power supply to act as a rudimentary curve tracer over GPIB and it looks
like you've already done it.
I only have a self-built arduino GPIB adapter but I am very tempted to
see if it works in MATLAB now as I'm also a bit of a "MATLABaholic" (as
you put it)
Thanks!
Aaron
Dick Benson writes:
Greetings HP Group
Over the past decade or so, I have been enjoying lashing instrumentation to a PC via GPIB/HPIB and controlling it via MATLAB. I am a MATLAB aholic
Recently a dozen or so applications were uploaded to the MathWorks File Repository.
Maybe a few of you folks will find something of interest.
S Parameter Utilities
HP 8753 VNA Control
Amplifier Design Tool
A Semiconductor Curve Tracer
A Single Channel Data Logger
A Four Channel GPIB Data Logger
HP 8970 Noise Figure Meter Control
Spectrum Analysis with HP 8568b-8566b
Two Port Measurements with HP 3577a
A Tool for Measuring High Q Resonators
VNA S11 Tracks
VNA Impedance Measurement
GPIB Control of HP Counters
I use (and actually like) Win 7 with the Agilent 82357b HPIB/USB adapter.
Kind regards,
Dick
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Wow, excellent contributions. I have been wondering if I could get my
power supply to act as a rudimentary curve tracer over GPIB and it looks
like you've already done it.
I only have a self-built arduino GPIB adapter but I am very tempted to
see if it works in MATLAB now as I'm also a bit of a "MATLABaholic" (as
you put it)
Thanks!
Aaron
Dick Benson writes:
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Greetings HP Group
Over the past decade or so, I have been enjoying lashing instrumentation to a PC via GPIB/HPIB and controlling it via MATLAB. I am a MATLAB aholic
Recently a dozen or so applications were uploaded to the MathWorks File Repository.
Maybe a few of you folks will find something of interest.
S Parameter Utilities
HP 8753 VNA Control
Amplifier Design Tool
A Semiconductor Curve Tracer
A Single Channel Data Logger
A Four Channel GPIB Data Logger
HP 8970 Noise Figure Meter Control
Spectrum Analysis with HP 8568b-8566b
Two Port Measurements with HP 3577a
A Tool for Measuring High Q Resonators
VNA S11 Tracks
VNA Impedance Measurement
GPIB Control of HP Counters
I use (and actually like) Win 7 with the Agilent 82357b HPIB/USB adapter.
Kind regards,
Dick
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Re: Power Supply PCB Microfuses for H/P 8656A
Hi Don -?
I gather from your call sign that you're in New Zealand.? I'm not sure if Digi Key will be much use (seems to me guys on the eevblog from Aus and NZ mention using them, so maybe...), but they carry what I think are the correct fuses, and have stock.
I downloaded the PDF manual from Keysight and they appear to be Littelfuse Micro 273 series fuses - the manual lists them as mfg p/n 273001, 004 and 005 which I believe correspond to Littelfuse part numbers 0273001.H, etc. (I suspect that you already know this, but just in case...); DK part numbers for these are F868-ND, F872-ND and F873-ND respectively for the 1, 4 and 5A devices.? They're $5.85 US each, and they currently show north of 1000 of each in stock.
Take a look and see if these are the correct fuses.
I hope that this helps you.
-Pat
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 03:52 AM, donald collie wrote: I`ve had a look for these [Littelfuse 027001.H , 027004.H , 027004.H.....1A, 4A, and 5A respectively] on the internet, including the manufacturer, and their local agent, here, and others. I`m looking for perhaps a couple each,? to restore the 8656A to origonal. [A couple of the fuses that plug onto the PSU section had blown at some time , and had been replaced with fine TC wire wrapped arround the pins - a purists nightmare, and an unsafe practice!] Can anybody in the group please help me with this?
BTW; What goes wrong with an 8656A after 27 years and 5 months use and abuse ? I hear you? ?ask : The usual selection of scratches, and bumps [these were cleaned with gasoline, as this didn`t dissolve anything, and got the deep grime out]. The fan didn`t need replacing, and is dated `81.Some of the plastic locating pegs had broken off the side plastic panels.? The instrument had been operated in a damp environment, so there was white corrosion inside the fan compartment. One display driver chip had failed, and was replaced - it was a common variety, available locally.The only repairs in 27 years appear to be a replacement 5Volt rail smoothing capacitor, and a large Tantalum in the supply to the attenuator, and the attenuator PSU crobar SCR. This only leaves? the PSU fuses to be looked at. Hoping this is of interest....................Don C. ZL4GX?
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Power Supply PCB Microfuses for H/P 8656A
I`ve had a look for these [Littelfuse 027001.H , 027004.H , 027004.H.....1A, 4A, and 5A respectively] on the internet, including the manufacturer, and their local agent, here, and others. I`m looking for perhaps a couple each,? to restore the 8656A to origonal. [A couple of the fuses that plug onto the PSU section had blown at some time , and had been replaced with fine TC wire wrapped arround the pins - a purists nightmare, and an unsafe practice!] Can anybody in the group please help me with this?
BTW; What goes wrong with an 8656A after 27 years and 5 months use and abuse ? I hear you? ?ask : The usual selection of scratches, and bumps [these were cleaned with gasoline, as this didn`t dissolve anything, and got the deep grime out]. The fan didn`t need replacing, and is dated `81.Some of the plastic locating pegs had broken off the side plastic panels.? The instrument had been operated in a damp environment, so there was white corrosion inside the fan compartment. One display driver chip had failed, and was replaced - it was a common variety, available locally.The only repairs in 27 years appear to be a replacement 5Volt rail smoothing capacitor, and a large Tantalum in the supply to the attenuator, and the attenuator PSU crobar SCR. This only leaves? the PSU fuses to be looked at. Hoping this is of interest....................Don C. ZL4GX?
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:45 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
plus two T-15 screws holding the carry handle
on the side.
I didn't notice those, thanks.? Downloaded.
I'll contact Keysight and see if they have a copy somewhere else since nothing is referenced online regarding the 16601A when I checked.?
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 9:05 PM jafinch78 . <jafinch78@...> wrote:
I couldn't get the case off easy to clean the inside and inspect to see what the hardware is.
A 16600 series should be easy to open. Two T-10 screws on the top edge of the case on the back, plus two T-15 screws holding the carry handle on the side. Then the case should just slide off backwards. Maybe the 16600-97010 Service Guide PDF file isn't available at Keysight anymore.
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 07:56 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
For the 16600 series you need to go back to version 1.51
as the final version. You probably can't find that anywhere at
Keysight. I have an image of the version 1.51 re-ignite CD if you want
or need to reinstall system software from scratch on a 16600 series.
I can use a copy since I don't have the vers 1.51 re-ignite or any documentation or software.
I've only powered on and looks like no errors and my IBM PS/2 Keyboard and Mouse are working along with the 15" VGA monitor.? ?
I couldn't get the case off easy to clean the inside and inspect to see what the hardware is.??
The system firmware I'm guessing is ISL Revision A.00.38 OCT 26, 1994
Then ISL boots up hpux as noting "ISL booting hpux" and the HP-UX Start-up progress was all OK other than two N/A's from "Start Time Synchronization" and "Start httpd (Web Server)".?
Then the HP Logic Analysis System starts leading to the Windows 95'ish looking OS GUI with a Session Manager screen loading and then a Agilent Logic Analysis System, from 1999 based on the Copyright, splash screen. Then the 16601A Logic Analysis System screen starts showing the E5901A Emulation Module (guessing thats the 16610A) as Slot 1, HP 16601A in Slot A and HP 16533A in Slot B.??
I didn't connect anything to run yet since I need to read into and acquire a POD set.? Looks like there is a Demo Center and Help section installed, so I can start there since I have no documentation relating to.?
I was originally thinking I'd replace the P-ATA drive with a P-ATA SSD drive, though looks like the primary boot path is: SESCSI.6.0 with an alternate boot path: SESCSI.1.0.?
So I'm thinking this is a SCSI drive system and I've not swapped SCSI drives with an SSD yet.? Would swapping the drive using an adapter even be plug and play capable since there aren't SCSI SSD drives that I am aware of???
Thanks for the feedback.??
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On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 4:38 PM jafinch78 . <jafinch78@...> wrote:
Someone had offered on the Tekscopes group to give me for the price of shipping, if that, a set of the POD connectors they had lying around they weren't using anymore.
Any idea who and if they will work with the 16601A? I'll read into later this evening, though figured I'd post if you know who you are.
Any advice, suggestions, tips or comments regarding the 16601A and/or 16533A are appreciated.
HP / Agilent 40-pin to 17-channel flying lead (16 data + 1 clock lead) PODs are all the same from the 1650, 1660, 1670, 1680, 1690, and 16600 series analyzers, and the 16510A modules all the way up through the 16752B modules. With the exception of the 16910A / 16911A modules, the 16753A and newer modules use POD sets that are not common and are very expensive, unless you use a Mictor or Samtec connection to the target. Any common HP / Agilent 40-pin to 17-channel flying lead POD set should work with the 16600 series analyzers. The final version of the system software for the 16700 series is version 2.90. For the 16600 series you need to go back to version 1.51 as the final version. You probably can't find that anywhere at Keysight. I have an image of the version 1.51 re-ignite CD if you want or need to reinstall system software from scratch on a 16600 series.
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Re: Bad 1820-0986 in 5340a Counter
Thanks for the suggestions.
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It ends up the 74160 is pin compatible with the 86L75, and I found a
74LS160 in the lab. The counter is back up and running.
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Gary Appel
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Counter
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1820-0986,
National 86L75N.
Anyone know if these are available anywhere? Sphere does
not have any.
Gary Appel
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Re: MATLAB GPIB Instrument Control Applications
Nifty!? I didn't know there were GPIB bindings in MATLAB.? ? I don't recall any limitations regarding two-point calibration at 1601 points on the 8753C.?? Is that documented somewhere, or just a limitation you encountered yourself?? They do get very picky about timing. ? -- john, KE5FX ?
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MATLAB GPIB Instrument Control Applications
Greetings HP Group Over the past decade or so, I have been enjoying lashing instrumentation to a PC via GPIB/HPIB and controlling it via MATLAB.? I am a MATLAB aholic Recently a dozen or so applications were uploaded to the MathWorks File Repository. Maybe a few of you folks will find something of interest.?
S Parameter Utilities
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68893-s-parameter-utilities-v1-0-1
?
HP 8753 VNA Control
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68898-hp-8753-vna-control
?
Amplifier Design Tool
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68899-amplifier-design-tool
?
A Semiconductor Curve Tracer
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68900-a-semiconductor-curve-tracer
?
A Single Channel Data Logger
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68901-a-single-channel-data-logger
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A Four Channel GPIB Data Logger
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68902-a-four-channel-gpib-data-logger
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HP 8970 Noise Figure Meter Control
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68904-hp-8970-noise-figure-meter-control
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Spectrum Analysis with HP 8568b-8566b
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68906-spectrum-analysis-with-the-hp-8568b-8566b
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Two Port Measurements with HP 3577a
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68907-two-port-vna-measurements-with-hp-3577a
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A Tool for Measuring High Q Resonators
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68908-a-tool-for-measuring-high-q-resonators
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VNA S11 Tracks
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68909-vna-s11-tracks
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VNA Impedance Measurement
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68910-vna-impedance-measurement
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GPIB Control of HP Counters
https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/68914-gpib-control-of-hp-counters
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I use (and actually like)? Win 7 with the Agilent 82357b HPIB/USB? adapter. Kind regards, Dick
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Re: Bad 1820-0986 in 5340a Counter
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In the UK and free shipping. More than 1
available.
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Regards
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Subject: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment]
Bad 1820-0986 in 5340a Counter
1820-0986, National 86L75N.
Anyone know if these are
available anywhere? Sphere does not have any.
Gary Appel
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Someone had offered on the Tekscopes group to give me for the price of shipping, if that, a set of the POD connectors they had lying around they weren't using anymore.?
Any idea who and if they will work with the 16601A?? ?I'll read into later this evening, though figured I'd post if you know who you are.
Any advice, suggestions, tips or comments regarding the 16601A and/or 16533A are appreciated.?
Thanks in advance for your time and consideration.??
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Just got back from the U of M Surplus Store (PROPERTY DISPOSITION): http://procurement.umich.edu/property-space-management/property-disposition-public-shopping
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I was so excited to pick up a HP16601A with a HP16533A for a reduced price along with a NI DAQ 6024E PCMCIA card in a $10 IBM T42 laptop... that I had to go back in to look again for other items at a great price.? Of which I found some other items at awesome prices.? If the items have been dated older than two weeks... you can try to negotiate pricing.??
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There are a few more HP16601A's also and I think one with a 16533A card last I looked.?
There are also HP Reflection - Transmission Test Unit's 8742A and 8743A. I don't have the other gear for... though is a goal for in the future... especially for use in wanting to track and glean satellite data. I still need to learn more however.
For those on the TekScopes page that I am blocked on (this group is more forgiving and I hope would at least give me a warning if an issue), I noticed they had a Tektronix 2213 if I'm remembering correctly on one of the shelves on the wall behind the monitor shelf and I think two 500 series scopes on the lab equipment shelves.??
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