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Re: HP 1740A HV Oscillator has stopped running

 

Yes, you are correct, it is the HV Osc Q1, I was mixed with another section that was giving problems but resolved.

I'll pull it out and test it, I have already done that HV Disable Q1 and Q2. Someone else suggested on another group that Q2 was dicky, despite it checking ok on my tester, it was replaced as I have loads of equivalents but that wasn't the problem.?

So I'll try this test and let you now if is OK or not.

Graham


Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

Bob Albert
 

Sorry abpit the NTE214; I must have mixed up the number.? But the info is online.

Bob


On Saturday, October 21, 2017 1:47 PM, "george g_einst@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:


Electrically equivalent mechanically no, the 1853-0063 is a TO3 device not a TO66

George G6HIG
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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <hp_agilent_equipment@...> on behalf of Dennis Czelusniak czelusniakd@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: 21 October 2017 20:22:48
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

A-1853-0063-1 NTE Equvilent NTE218 TRANSISTOR PNP SILICON 90V IC=4A TO-66 CASE

All I did was GOOGLE and that's what it shows as equivalent.

Dennis

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On Sat, 10/21/17, mmaseda@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Saturday, October 21, 2017, 1:25 PM






























Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a
1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C?? I’ve already
have a query into Walter at Sphere.
Thanks in
advance,Manuel
























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Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

Electrically equivalent mechanically no, the 1853-0063 is a TO3 device not a TO66

George G6HIG
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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <hp_agilent_equipment@...> on behalf of Dennis Czelusniak czelusniakd@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: 21 October 2017 20:22:48
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

A-1853-0063-1 NTE Equvilent NTE218 TRANSISTOR PNP SILICON 90V IC=4A TO-66 CASE

All I did was GOOGLE and that's what it shows as equivalent.

Dennis

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On Sat, 10/21/17, mmaseda@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Saturday, October 21, 2017, 1:25 PM






























Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a
1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? I’ve already
have a query into Walter at Sphere.
Thanks in
advance,Manuel


Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

Hi Ken

Please read my posting, I said PNP2N3055, yes their is such a device and it is PNP. It was produced as a compliment to the 2N3055.

73 George G6HIG
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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <hp_agilent_equipment@...> on behalf of ken chalfant kpchalfant@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: 21 October 2017 19:53
To: hp_agilent_equipment
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

Greetings,

Of course, the world is filled with things I don’t know - but I think the 2N3055 is an NPN transistor.

I believe its PNP complement is Mj2955.

Don’t just take my word, I may be wrong - double check.

Regards,

Ken


On 21Oct, 2017, at 1:41 PM, george g_einst@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Hi Manuel

The transistor is a low spec Si PNP, try 2N2955 or even a PNP2N3055. Spec is Si PNP,55V, 5A, FT 3MHZ in a TO3 case.

73 George G6HIG
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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <hp_agilent_equipment@...> on behalf of mmaseda@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: 21 October 2017 17:25
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a 1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? I’ve already have a query into Walter at Sphere.


Thanks in advance,

Manuel




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Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

So the filtered feed to the 12V comes off the cap that also feeds the 20V supply.? I have around 30V coming off that cap into the 12V regulator.? The output of the 12V regulator is only 9.5V.

So I guess I can start by replacing the regulator which looks like a job.

Thanks for the input.


Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

A-1853-0063-1 NTE Equvilent NTE218 TRANSISTOR PNP SILICON 90V IC=4A TO-66 CASE

All I did was GOOGLE and that's what it shows as equivalent.

Dennis



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On Sat, 10/21/17, mmaseda@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Saturday, October 21, 2017, 1:25 PM






























Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a
1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? ?I’ve already
have a query into Walter at Sphere.
Thanks in
advance,Manuel


Re: OT Omni Spectra Semi-Rigid Tools

 

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Dan,

I have a nearly complete T-200/500 that I got a couple of years ago. It's on a shelf around here somewhere. At the time I did a bunch of searching and discovered the TE-Connectivity replacement kit. I downloaded the basic instruction sheet and a bunch of files for using the kit for various Omni-Spectra SMA connectors. Let me do some archaeology and see if I can find the files. They may or may not be applicable to your kit, too.

Steve


On 10/20/2017 7:23 PM, djn@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

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Recently I obtained an Omni-Spectra Semi-Rigid Tool set for use to attach SMA connectors to .141 and other semi-rigid coax..... The set was called a T-200/400 set.


I also see on Ebay a T-450 set....


Which gives me wonder....what connectors was it for.


So, I was wondering if anyone knows what Omni-Specta tooling numbers match which connectors....


And, is there any old catalogs out there with more detail?


Just a nice curiosity from the past that I'm trying to bring into the present....


Dan in Chandler, AZ



Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

Yes, I spoke too quickly about replacing the A17.? The regulator is off board on what I think is called the A23.? I'm trying to find the filter cap for the input to that regulator now but the schematic is hard to read.


Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

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Check the power supplies and replace the bad filter capacitors.

Glenn

On 10/21/2017 3:07 PM, jehancoc@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
I opened up my 8566B and found that the +12v on the A17 board to be reading 9.5V with 4.5 of AC ripple.??? The fuses on this board are ok.? No burning ext.

Should I just find a used board?? Is this board used in any others like the 8568b?

Thanks again.

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Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

Greetings,

Of course, the world is filled with things I don’t know - but I think the 2N3055 is an NPN transistor.

I believe its PNP complement is Mj2955.

Don’t just take my word, I may be wrong - double check.

Regards,

Ken

On 21Oct, 2017, at 1:41 PM, george g_einst@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Hi Manuel

The transistor is a low spec Si PNP, try 2N2955 or even a PNP2N3055. Spec is Si PNP,55V, 5A, FT 3MHZ in a TO3 case.

73 George G6HIG
________________________________________
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <hp_agilent_equipment@...> on behalf of mmaseda@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: 21 October 2017 17:25
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a 1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? I’ve already have a query into Walter at Sphere.


Thanks in advance,

Manuel




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Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

Hi Manuel

The transistor is a low spec Si PNP, try 2N2955 or even a PNP2N3055. Spec is Si PNP,55V, 5A, FT 3MHZ in a TO3 case.

73 George G6HIG
________________________________________
From: hp_agilent_equipment@... <hp_agilent_equipment@...> on behalf of mmaseda@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: 21 October 2017 17:25
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a 1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? I’ve already have a query into Walter at Sphere.


Thanks in advance,

Manuel


Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

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Hi,
this looks like a power supply problem ;-)
I would invest a few hours on searching for the problem. If it is in the power supply, it is likely that you can fix it relatively easy. I would guess a bad capacitor or voltage regulator.
You can always get a new board, but first you should try to figure out what board you really need. I would be surprised if the problem is on A17.
Check the power supply and all other voltages before thinking about getting new boards!

Tobias


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From: "jehancoc@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
Date: 10/21/17 21:08 (GMT+01:00)
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

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I opened up my 8566B and found that the +12v on the A17 board to be reading 9.5V with 4.5 of AC ripple.??? The fuses on this board are ok.? No burning ext.

Should I just find a used board?? Is this board used in any others like the 8568b?

Thanks again.


Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

Changing the board won't help unless the raw supply filter cap for that supply happens to be on it. You likely just need to find and replace the cap and it should be good to go. I believe the cap is chassis mounted, or on the motherboard, or on a separate assembly along with some others.

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Ed


Re: HP 1740A HV Oscillator has stopped running

 

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By "Q3", do you mean "HV OSC Q1", the off board power transistor connected to T1-3?? The 7.27v base-emitter voltage would indicate either a bad connection to? "HV OSC Q1" (open emitter?) or a blown "HV OSC Q1".? If that part is socketed, pull it out and re-install.

Dave


On 10/21/2017 7:59 AM, graham.l.n.butcher@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

Hi everyone, the last time I asked a question I got some very good advice, so lets see if we have same luck this time.


I have the 1740A that I'm trying to restore, its in really good condition inside and out generally and certainly does not belong as landfill etc.


Last time I had distorted waveforms and your advice pointed me in the right direction and we resolved that issue and so while attempting to calibrate the scope a bit, the trace disappeared completely, did this a couple of times and never recovered. Pressing beam find confirmed that there was no HT.


Removed the HV cover and checked the supply rails coming in and all is correct but the oscillator is not running and I've confirmed this by using another scope and holding the probe in close proximity to the transformer and there is high frequency bleed at all. There is a 50Hz one if I turn the sensitivity all the way up, normally there is a high strength signal of around 30 to 40Khz but not on this one at present.


The voltages I'm getting on Q1, Q2 and Q3 are:


Q2?

Base? ? ? ? ?+16.8v

Emitter? ? ?+15v

Collector? ? 0v


Q1

Base? ? ? ? ?0v

Emitter? ? ?0v

Collector? ? +7.27v


Q3

Base? ? ? ? ?+7.27v

Emitter? ? ?0v

Collector? ? +22v


I should say as well that this particular board has the modifications to the Q1 and Q2 configuration which I have a photo of but not too sure how I can attach it in a fashion that you can see it, any ideas on how I submit the photo and on how I can resolve the oscillator issue?


All assistance is greatly appreciated.


Graham??




Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

I opened up my 8566B and found that the +12v on the A17 board to be reading 9.5V with 4.5 of AC ripple.??? The fuses on this board are ok.? No burning ext.

Should I just find a used board?? Is this board used in any others like the 8568b?

Thanks again.


Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

I looked up an NTE214 and it’s an NPN.


Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

Bob Albert
 

I found several cross references.? I think NTE214 for instance.? It's a TO-3 PNP 3 MHz t5A 80V unit and there are many that can probably work in that slot.? I may have a few in my junkbox.? You can also use the plastic ones from Japan, but the number eludes me at the moment.? 2SB something.

Bob


On Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:32 AM, "'Paul Bicknell' paul@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:




Hi Manuel
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The only x ref I have for a 1853-0063 ??is a ????SJ 1528
Regards Paul B

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Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a 1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? ?I’ve already have a query into Walter at Sphere.
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Thanks in advance,
Manuel


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Re: 8566B PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and Ref Unlock

 

On my 8566B, I found that I have little or no output from the 100Mhz cal signal as well.? I haven't lifted the unit out of the rack yet, but to be clear, I have a blinking PL1 Unlock, PL2 Unlock and REF Unlock as well as the missing 100Mhz.? Actually, the 100Mhz seems to be there but won't drive a 50ohm load at all.

I'll check the voltages today.? By the way, I hope I need something specialized to fix this beast as I always enjoy a purchasing opportunity.? I have 2 x 8568Bs, lots of scopes and voltmeters, signal generators, etc.? What else could I need?

Any input?

Thanks


Re: HP 3455A stability issue

 

though some people have found old integration caps most likely you have a leaky FET.? ?They are tough to find but the section in the manual that addresses this problem should help.


Re: 1853-0063 transistor needed

 

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Hi Manuel

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The only x ref I have for a 1853-0063 ??is a ????SJ 1528

Regards Paul B


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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] 1853-0063 transistor needed

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Anyone know of a source or cross reference for a 1853-0063 transistor used in the 410C? ?I’ve already have a query into Walter at Sphere.

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Thanks in advance,

Manuel

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