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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
Can anybody explain how exactly the instrument type detection takes place, or give a reference to the free army manual that floats on the web.
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--- On Sun, 3/10/13, Gala Dragos <gala_dragos@...> wrote:
From: Gala Dragos <gala_dragos@...> Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 10:30 PM ? That was my next milestone, but got stuck into this 20ns?disappearance. It would be useful if you have the time to dig. --- On Sun, 3/10/13, Larry Fuller <lfuller500@...> wrote: From: Larry Fuller <lfuller500@...> Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 9:40 PM ? Hi All, I've got a DOS data capture program for the Tektronix 338 Logic Analyzer which I wrote about fifteen years ago. I wrote it to work on the COM2 port of my old 386. The program is primitive, but it worked for what I was doing. If anyone has a Tek. 338 and a PC which will display full screen DOS graphics (or a copy of DOSBOX or similar installed), you're welcome to a copy to play around with. I was limited by the screen resolution (640x480); to display Pod D data, you have to scroll down with the arrow key. It's a compiled EXE file. I wrote it in QuickBasic 4.5. I could also send along the source file but it might take a while to dig it out of the achieves. Larry P.S. I never tried it with a 318. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: AN-150-B
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"... The one I am looking for is a Note on using the 8559B series Spectrum Analyzers. ----------------------------------------------------- Presumably, you mean 8558B or 8559A, as there is no 8559B. Also, I have never seen an HP150-B, but there is an HP document that specifically addresses the 8557A/8558B/8559A in the 853A display. It is: "Economy Spectrum Analyzer Operation" Part No. 00853-90010 and can be downloaded at Agilent's web site: |
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
That was my next milestone, but got stuck into this 20ns?disappearance.
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It would be useful if you have the time to dig. --- On Sun, 3/10/13, Larry Fuller <lfuller500@...> wrote:
From: Larry Fuller <lfuller500@...> Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 9:40 PM ? Hi All, I've got a DOS data capture program for the Tektronix 338 Logic Analyzer which I wrote about fifteen years ago. I wrote it to work on the COM2 port of my old 386. The program is primitive, but it worked for what I was doing. If anyone has a Tek. 338 and a PC which will display full screen DOS graphics (or a copy of DOSBOX or similar installed), you're welcome to a copy to play around with. I was limited by the screen resolution (640x480); to display Pod D data, you have to scroll down with the arrow key. It's a compiled EXE file. I wrote it in QuickBasic 4.5. I could also send along the source file but it might take a while to dig it out of the achieves. Larry P.S. I never tried it with a 318. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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HP 6034L troubleshooting
I have acquired a 6034L GBIB system power supply with a bit of an issue. As soon as I power it up, it goes into CC Limit mode with the CV normal LED blinking very fast. I can adjust the voltage output only till about 35Vdc, after that the output gets unstable, and the UNREGULATED LED lights up. I cannot adjust the current output, which is stuck at 420mA on the units display. Default voltage when powered up is 370mV. This is with no load connected to the output terminals and the sens terminal strapped to the output.
The power-up self test passes, but if I initiate the complete self test mode, it seems to fail Power Mesh Mode Error 5. I checked the voltages on the A2 control board and the +15 and -12 Vdc are a little low at +12 and -9Vdc. +5, +15 and -12 Voltages are normal on the A3 front panel board. The control voltages from the DAC for the CC and CV modes all seem to vary from 0 to 5V when I vary the front encoder in both CC and CV modes. I can't find any documentation on the L version, but do have and have been going by the A version manual. Not sure what the differences are though. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Will |
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Re: AN-150-B
John Miles
There are a lot of AN-150 variants here:
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as well as on Agilent.com: ... but no luck on AN-150B. :( Often, though, the newer editions were intended as forward-compatible replacements for the old ones. -- john, KE5FX -----Original Message-----the B version, not the more common 150.up.
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
Hi All,
I've got a DOS data capture program for the Tektronix 338 Logic Analyzer which I wrote about fifteen years ago. I wrote it to work on the COM2 port of my old 386. The program is primitive, but it worked for what I was doing. If anyone has a Tek. 338 and a PC which will display full screen DOS graphics (or a copy of DOSBOX or similar installed), you're welcome to a copy to play around with. I was limited by the screen resolution (640x480); to display Pod D data, you have to scroll down with the arrow key. It's a compiled EXE file. I wrote it in QuickBasic 4.5. I could also send along the source file but it might take a while to dig it out of the achieves. Larry P.S. I never tried it with a 318. |
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Re: AN-150-B
Ed:
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Thanks, but that is not for anythng related to H.P. Equipment. The one I am looking for is a Note on using the 8559B series Spectrum Analyzers. The one most found is the 150 (no B ) which is a VERY good note on using any S.A. Thanks for loking, Chuck ----- Original Message -----
From: WA5SWD@... To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] AN-150-B Chuck, A simple search on Yahoo turned up this URL: This should be what you are after. Ed Lawrence WA5SWD Cell 970-481-4491 Home 970-568-4400 |
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Re: 70300A CLIP MANUAL DETERIORATION UPDATE
Artekmedia
Bruce
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My impression after working with this for awhile is that print was folded while the page was still warmer and the toner to toner facing pages are actually fused. But if you run on to a large vacuum dryer let me know. Again as I think about that the drying would result in contraction which would in turn result in shear forces and so far tensile forces (perpendicular to the plane of the paper) seem to work MUCH better Dave On 3/10/2013 12:31 PM, Brucekareen@... wrote:
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Re: AN-150-B
Chuck,
A simple search on Yahoo turned up this URL: This should be what you are after. Ed Lawrence WA5SWD Cell 970-481-4491 Home 970-568-4400 ________________________________ From: Chuck <j-mcclurg@...> To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Sent: Sat, March 9, 2013 10:32:34 PM Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] AN-150-B Does any one have a copy of HP application Note 150-B? I am looking for the B version, not the more common 150. If any one has one I would like a copy of it, to go with my 853/8559B set up. Thanks, Chuck McClurg N7UVZ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: LIF File Conversion.
Jay:
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I'll try the Omniflop. I doubt it will translate a basic file that is hex tokens into an ascii file. Dan in Chandler, AZ --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "jayw_comark" <jayw_comark@...> wrote:
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
it only shows 2 pods, A and B?it should show 32 channels too. in the trigger menu I can select up to 4 groups with 16 channels each. This means I have 32 channels ? --- On Sun, 3/10/13, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote: From: Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer To: hp_agilent_equipment@... Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 5:09 PM ? That is an easy question to answer: If it is a 318, it will acquire at 20ns: async or sync... I don't recall if the glitch position changes the maximum acquisition rate, but you might want to check... The only difference between the 338 and the 318 is the acquisition memory board, and that is what determines the maximum acquisition speed. It could be that your 318 is thinking it is a 338, I would think if that is so it should show 32 channels too. Perhaps your 318's CPU is misreading the acquisition board's ID? -Chuck Harris Gala Dragos wrote: Hi! Anybody has a Sony/Tektronix 318 logic analyzer? Can you tell me the fastest CLK that you can select for acquisition? Thanks. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: 70300A CLIP MANUAL DETERIORATION UPDATE
Dave,
I have followed this thread with interest as I have occasionally run into "fused" pages in documents in the past. During the online discussions I have wondered if the contraction resulting from vacuum-drying the prints might break the toner bonds in the correct places. It has been possible to save water-soaked valuable books through immediate freezing and later vacuum drying. Of course it would be necessary to find a suitable vessel to try this. Bruce |
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
I'm cross posting from the Tek scopes group...
I have both 318 and 338 baby logic analyzers. Cute little things. They both run identical hardware with exception of the acquisition board pair. Configuration is determined on boot up. As mentioned earlier, you will see either two banks of ports on the [SETUP] menu if it's 318, or four if it's a 338. On power-up, both units default to "50 nS" clk rate (internal) setting. To change: On the [TRIGGER] menu, EDIT [->] three times, then DATA [DECR] (B) to increase sample rate. The 318 sequence should be: "50 nS" -> "20 nS" -> "EXT \>" -> "EXT />" -> "500mS" (warps around) ... Much of the 318/338 hardware registers are write-only, and the clock rate cannot be accurately identified by the CPU itself. The clock ASIC diagnostic screen can only set the clock rate, and you have to use a scope to verify the generated clock. If you cannot set the 20 nS clock rate, I would suspect that the CPU is mis-identifiying the hardware. Try reseating the dual ACQ boards, and the CPU/Display board. Note that the 318/338's were designed in the early days, when static sensitivity was considerably worse. We take for granted these days the robustness of modern logic chips that seem to be impervious to static charge. Work on your 318 in a static controlled environment! Good luck in your diagnosis. All for now. Sbirdasn. |
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
That is an easy question to answer: If it is a 318, it
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will acquire at 20ns: async or sync... I don't recall if the glitch position changes the maximum acquisition rate, but you might want to check... The only difference between the 338 and the 318 is the acquisition memory board, and that is what determines the maximum acquisition speed. It could be that your 318 is thinking it is a 338, I would think if that is so it should show 32 channels too. Perhaps your 318's CPU is misreading the acquisition board's ID? -Chuck Harris Gala Dragos wrote: Hi! |
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Re: OT: Sony/Tektronix 318 Logic analyzer
J. Forster
I'll look later,but I think it's 20 or 50 nS.
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Re: LIF File Conversion.
Hi Dan,
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I'd still give Omniflop a try. It's free, and it seems much easier to me. According to the website, it'd do exactly what you were looking for in terms of reading the disk, and saving the image to a Windows machine. Creating a new disk would consist of writing the image from the Windows machine back to a floppy disk. Jay --- In hp_agilent_equipment@..., "danaz.chandler" <djn@...> wrote:
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Re: switch controllers 3499A vs 3488A?
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<mailto:hp_agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:hp_ agilent_equipment%40yahoogroups.com>, "W2HX" wrote: > > Hi all, is there a significant benefit of the 3499A controller vs the 3488A controller? The 3488's are dirt cheap (empty). > > > 73 Eugene W2HX Dunnu about the 3499A, but if you get the parallel I/O card for the 3488A you can auto step through a series of inputs to another card by tying one line of the parallel card input to the "read out stable " or "print pulse" from the back of a system DVM without the need of HPIB John B |
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70300A CLIP MANUAL DETERIORATION UPDATE
Artekmedia
First let me say that a number of different methods as suggested by the group were tried in freeing the toner ink page face bonding problem. None resulted in foolproof and repeatable results. An email exchange with a couple of document restoration entities produced no better results.
In general the process that seems to produce some benefit is as follows 1) Freezing the pages and then flexing them sharply by pulling them back and forth over the edge of a table while still cold serves to break some but not all of the bonds. Rolfing them so to speak 2)Then carefully using a very thin but not sharp blade with a rounded tip such as a very old butter knife or painters mixing knife. Slowly teasing the stuck surfaces apart as vertically as possible (think tensile bonds versus shear bonds) from each other. In the end the pages once separated were still not useable anymore, to many missing letters , broken lines etc. Scanning the resulting degraded document and then using a photo editor such a Paint or Photoshop to painstakingly redo lines and symbols, with a lot of deductive research and reference back to the board layout and parts list the document was ultimately electronically recreated. In the case of one schematic A8A1 our separation attempts resulted in an unrestorable document . Another list member (Dan in Chandler, AZ) also had a copy of the same CLIP. The bad news is Dan's attempts to open his own A8A1 page was worse than mine, resulting in as feared an unusable schematic, the good news is that several of the destroyed areas on my schematic were readable on Dan's and vice versa , those areas commonly damaged on both schematics were largely restored using PC Paint, and deductive logic, in all it took nearly 8 hours of graphic editing mouse time just to restore that one page which I feel is 99.5% accurate now ( I also found a couple of HP errrors in the process :-) ) After prying apart many pages ( the 70300A CLIP is fully restored) I tend to believe that the problem is not one of time making it worse but rather that the original process in that the pages had too much toner , improperly fused and quite possibly sent to the folding machine while they were still warm , bonding is clearly worse near the folded edge than farther out. I will now take my restored D size drawings to my local repo house and have them reprinted and stored with the original binder. If any one would like to purchase the original and restored CLIP contact me off list, digital copies will be soon be available as well Dave ArtekManuals.com -- Dave Henderson Manuals@... www.Artekmanuals.com PO Box 175 Welch,MN 55089 651-269-4265 |
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