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Solder-tail version of the same connector, also from Newark, also at unusual unit price.



Roy - if this is contrary to group guidelines, please accept my apology (I presumed that this would be of interest due to the very specialized nature of the parts and the prior reference to an ebay seller being defunct.)

Below is a listing of the file names I retrieved using internet archive during my brief review of the thread this morning (anyone could do this, but of course it will be convenient to have them cached online).

I've not uploaded them anywhere at this point - they can be retrieved using internet archive to search on each of the (defunct) URLs that were in the postings from earlier times.

If someone can tell me where these files should be uploaded, I'll be happy to do that.

(DOS command of the directory where I put the files retrieved)

Directory of D:\848x homebrew power sensor

04/10/2025 05:22 PM <DIR> .
04/10/2025 05:22 PM <DIR> ..
04/10/2025 10:54 AM 2,658,520 08484-90019-PowerSensor.pdf
04/10/2025 11:01 AM 5,261,326 1975-10.pdf
04/10/2025 10:51 AM 4,021,004 20181117_170657.jpg
04/10/2025 10:50 AM 3,350,675 20181117_173101.jpg
04/10/2025 10:52 AM 234,284 8481schem.png
04/10/2025 10:55 AM 11,393,180 8484a.pdf
04/10/2025 10:56 AM 211,615 HP 11683A H01 ops_service.pdf
04/10/2025 11:03 AM 6,653,962 WTG_RefGuide_F1128_sm_web.pdf

I went back to the start of the thread to capture local copies of the various cited references. Most of the links are dead, however, internet archive wayback machine got me to almost all of them, so I have the files cached here now (mostly commercial reference material from HP and Boonton, along with Tobias' hand drawn schematics (I don't believe Tobias published schematics after his first few drafts, and don't know if he maintains a repository anywhere.)

Matt - I just saw the same thing (the page updated a few seconds after initially rendering). Their web site has extraordinary and severe design problems (extreme case of "low bid HTML".)

I realize that everyone has their own more-or-less “witches brew” for dealing with RF connectors but this is a nice general treatment on them from a reputable source. https://blog.minicircuits.com/care-handling-of-rf-microwave-connectors/ Greg

On Wednesday 09 April 2025 10:08:13 pm Dave McGuire via groups.io wrote:

? ?Yay, suits, let's farm that web development out to India for a dollar
a day, what could go wrong?

On one of the many bookshelves here I have "In Search Of Excellence" sitting right next to "Fired For Success"...

:-)

--
Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space, ?a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed. ?--Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James
M Dakin

On 4/9/25 17:29, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:

They are not alone though -- e.g. Keysight (I have numerous calibration
agreements with them) was also broken several years ago and never fixed ever
since. Same with Tektronix.

I tried to place an order through Keysight Find-A-Part yesterday. I've placed dozens of orders on my account over the years. This time, when I click "add to cart" on a part, I get a dialog box that says my account isn't registered to purchase parts, and gives me a link to register my account with that service. When I click on that, it takes me to a page that says my account is already registered for that service.

Today they entered the order for me manually.

Yay, suits, let's farm that web development out to India for a dollar a day, what could go wrong?

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA

???

??? I checked out using my Newark net-30 account. It didn't give me any trouble at all, and the price stayed stable ($4 and change each).

--
Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin@...
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

OK, it worked when checking out as guest although not without issues. Total
disaster if you try do this being logged into your account (not just price
jumping to $9.15).

Hi Sergey,

I too have had system problems with Newark online ordering in the past - they are not my favorite, but sometimes low-cost items appear that I can use (and these prices appear in octopart.com search engine, so that is how I found this item). Also, sometimes when I have ordered a low-cost item and went back to order more a few days later, the price had increased.

Before giving up, maybe try other browser on your computer? I tried with other browser and was able to reach "check out as guest" without unexpected price change.

Good luck!

Dave

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On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:

BTW, it also depends on where you are as everything is going via some proxy
(CDN) like Akamai/Imperva/Cloudfare/whatever these days and those are
falling apart.

There was couple of weeks when I was not even able to login into my Cox
Business account to pay my bill -- it's been telling me I'm trying to login
from abroad (they used/use Imperva and that routed me via Israel) and they
don't allow that.

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, Lynn C via groups.io wrote:

You were lucky to catch that very rare moment it worked. I don't need those
connectors much -- have a bunch of dead sensors that I can use to build my
own calibrator and those already have the entire driving circuitry in them
so I don't have to build it from scratch. Just tried to get some to have
them in stock, just in case. I actually don't see any other use for them
except building a calibrator so not a big loss...

I just purchased 12 pcs without difficulty using a credit card for
payment.

Lynn C. KA7FPH

On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:03?PM Sergey Kubushyn via groups.io <ksi=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They were $4.12 when I added 10 to my cart. Then, when tried to checkout
they suddenly became $9.15 and "We can't process Credit Crd payments at
this
time. Please try again later".

Newark became a buggy horror, I was not been able to purchase ANYTHING
from
them for last 2 years or so -- there was ALWAYS an issue and their site
never worked since something like couple of years ago.

Do NOT buy anything from them, don't support the incompetence.

This is about the Amphenol Tuchel female connector discussed in this

thread's history (used by HP for panel and device mounting the 8480
series
power sensors and 43x series power meters.)

This posting (9 April 2025) probably has limited utility and will at

some point become moot, but wanted pass this along in case anyone was
interested in homebrewing HP power sensor or power meter, as the ebay
listing (offering the same connector) cited previously in the thread
disappeared some time ago.

I located stock (in US distributor Newark) a version of the female panel

connector cited in the discussion thread. They appear to be a "close out"
(from time to time, Newark reprices an item in what appears to be an
end-of-stock circumstance (the notation includes "available in quantity
shown".)

This connector is female, panel mount, with solder cup pins (12 pins.)

There are other variants of the same connector type (solder pins, etc.)

The part appears to show stock of 82 pieces (in US) at price of USD 4.12

today 9 April 2025.

Amphenol-Sine has online a data catalog which includes mechanical

drawings for this specific connector:

See page 22 for PCB layout applicable to the 12 pin thru-hole version

(PNG captured from that page is attached).

I rotated the (above) drawing of the 12 pin connector by 37.5 degrees

counter-clockwise - using powerpoint - to bring the key down to the
bottom
of the connector, matching how it is used in the HP devices - and scaled
it
(pins E and K are separated by 9.0 mm) so that I could use the circles
representing the 12 pins as a position guide for corresponding holes in a
PC board layout (idea is a small PCB that adapts the connector's rear
pins
to a 2x4 2.54mm header for mating to a prototyping board.) Somewhat
brute-force but this was a last-minute add to a PCB layout that was
headed
out for fab.

I ordered and received a couple of these connectors and they appear to

mate with the typical HP sensor cable without difficulty. The panel
mounting nut (ring) - included - would require a 2-pin hand tool to
tighten.

I have a similar question as most-recent posting to this thread asked -

about whether this project got built and what the experience was!

Dave

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* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
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On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, Lynn C via groups.io wrote:

You were lucky to catch that very rare moment it worked. I don't need those
connectors much -- have a bunch of dead sensors that I can use to build my
own calibrator and those already have the entire driving circuitry in them
so I don't have to build it from scratch. Just tried to get some to have
them in stock, just in case. I actually don't see any other use for them
except building a calibrator so not a big loss...

I just purchased 12 pcs without difficulty using a credit card for payment.

Lynn C. KA7FPH

On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:03?PM Sergey Kubushyn via groups.io <ksi=
[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They were $4.12 when I added 10 to my cart. Then, when tried to checkout
they suddenly became $9.15 and "We can't process Credit Crd payments at
this
time. Please try again later".

Newark became a buggy horror, I was not been able to purchase ANYTHING from
them for last 2 years or so -- there was ALWAYS an issue and their site
never worked since something like couple of years ago.

Do NOT buy anything from them, don't support the incompetence.

This is about the Amphenol Tuchel female connector discussed in this

thread's history (used by HP for panel and device mounting the 8480 series
power sensors and 43x series power meters.)

This posting (9 April 2025) probably has limited utility and will at

some point become moot, but wanted pass this along in case anyone was
interested in homebrewing HP power sensor or power meter, as the ebay
listing (offering the same connector) cited previously in the thread
disappeared some time ago.

I located stock (in US distributor Newark) a version of the female panel

connector cited in the discussion thread. They appear to be a "close out"
(from time to time, Newark reprices an item in what appears to be an
end-of-stock circumstance (the notation includes "available in quantity
shown".)

This connector is female, panel mount, with solder cup pins (12 pins.)

There are other variants of the same connector type (solder pins, etc.)

The part appears to show stock of 82 pieces (in US) at price of USD 4.12

today 9 April 2025.

Amphenol-Sine has online a data catalog which includes mechanical

drawings for this specific connector:

See page 22 for PCB layout applicable to the 12 pin thru-hole version

(PNG captured from that page is attached).

I rotated the (above) drawing of the 12 pin connector by 37.5 degrees

counter-clockwise - using powerpoint - to bring the key down to the bottom
of the connector, matching how it is used in the HP devices - and scaled it
(pins E and K are separated by 9.0 mm) so that I could use the circles
representing the 12 pins as a position guide for corresponding holes in a
PC board layout (idea is a small PCB that adapts the connector's rear pins
to a 2x4 2.54mm header for mating to a prototyping board.) Somewhat
brute-force but this was a last-minute add to a PCB layout that was headed
out for fab.

I ordered and received a couple of these connectors and they appear to

mate with the typical HP sensor cable without difficulty. The panel
mounting nut (ring) - included - would require a 2-pin hand tool to tighten.

I have a similar question as most-recent posting to this thread asked -

about whether this project got built and what the experience was!

Dave

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* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025, David Feldman via groups.io wrote:

They used to be OK until some time in the past when they got totally broken
and never recovered ever since.

They are not alone though -- e.g. Keysight (I have numerous calibration
agreements with them) was also broken several years ago and never fixed ever
since. Same with Tektronix.

Hi Sergey,

I too have had system problems with Newark online ordering in the past - they are not my favorite, but sometimes low-cost items appear that I can use (and these prices appear in octopart.com search engine, so that is how I found this item). Also, sometimes when I have ordered a low-cost item and went back to order more a few days later, the price had increased.

Before giving up, maybe try other browser on your computer? I tried with other browser and was able to reach "check out as guest" without unexpected price change.

Good luck!

Dave

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* KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. *
* Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. *
*