Re: new File called App notes
Hi Jos
?
That looks a lot just for ?interest how
much storage space dues that lot use
Regards Paul
?
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Here is the listing of all AN 's I have.
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Re: new File called App notes
Here is the listing of all AN 's I have.
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Re: new File called App notes
Hello,
chuck it on my server.
Tam
With best regards
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On 2020. 04. 19. 11:08, Paul Bicknell
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Hi Jos
?
Thank you for
coming back
Apparently if we
wear to upload all the
app notes it would consume our memory allocation several
times over
?
2 links have been
posted apparently with
all the Application Notes ?but there could be Gapes / a
few missing
Could I ask you for
a listing of the Application
Notes ?you have? along with the file size then we might
be able to
fill in any gapes that appear
?
Regards Paul
?
?
?
I have some 300 App Note files.
Shall I upload them?
Jos PA0AMX
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Re: new File called App notes
Hi Jos
?
Thank you for coming back
Apparently if we wear to upload all the
app notes it would consume our memory allocation several times over
?
2 links have been posted apparently with
all the Application Notes ?but there could be Gapes / a few missing
Could I ask you for a listing of the Application
Notes ?you have? along with the file size then we might be able to
fill in any gapes that appear
?
Regards Paul
?
?
?
I have some 300 App Note files.
Shall I upload them?
Jos PA0AMX
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I have some 300 App Note files.
Shall I upload them?
Jos PA0AMX
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Re: new File called App notes
Hi Richard
Thank you for your input but I think the Dave's were having a laugh at my expense as I hade reduced Application notes to a shortened version?
Regarding being lost in time its meaning has changed to mean small executable programmes as used on smart cell phones
Perhaps the (apps on phones) executable programmes should have been called EP’s now I think that would have confused the 苍别飞产颈别’蝉
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow
Sent: 19 April 2020 05:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes
??? App notes mean Application notes. Publications that explained
how to use instruments. They varied from a single sheet to
practically a book. -hp- had some very good app notes on spectrum
analysis and impedance mesurement. General Radio also published
ap notes on various techniques such as sound measurement. These
publications were often ahead of any text book.
??? I don't mean to take this away from Dave but its an example
to me of how once perfectly obvious meanings have been lost with
time.
On 4/18/2020 1:56 PM, ArtekManuals wrote:
> Paul
>
> I am not sure what you mean by an app note ..please give an
> example. In my world an App is just another word ( millennial
> speak) for a "program". A lot like Hz replaced Cycle. Since 95%
> of those on this list are old enough to remember cycles do you
> want us to load equipment related programs uyo your App folder?
>
> Dave
> PS: I sent you another private email earlier today to which you
> didn't respond ?
>
> On 4/18/2020 4:35 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
>> new File called App notes
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Recently I have beenlookingat app notes for equipment
>> andrealisedwe do not have acollectionon the site
>>
>> SoIn the File section I have made a File? called *App notes*
>>
>> CouldIask you all to helpwithputtingany App notes you have in
>> PDF format? into the new file
>>
>> Best Regards Paul
>>
>>
>
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Re: HP 53310A - Why did I not know about this sooner?
Hello Folks,
first of all, thank you for all the flowers. If anyone of you
wants to subscribe to my YouTube, I am thankful - at the moment, I
post more 3D printing stuff, but will return to Electronics soon
enough.
As for the 53310A: mine recently developed the "plague", showing
weird software errors. But this has since gone away again...I
posted about it some time ago, but got no responses at the time.
As for the PSU: IMHO, the company making these got burnt in the
big Capacitor plague. So all of them will fail eventually - if not
today, then in a month. My former lab gypsy has a friend who
decided to wait it out, and her PSU was almost impossible to
fix...in the end, we deduced that a crawl current across the
electrolyte made one of the voltage regulators horny
somehow...turned out to be a nasty repair.
Tam
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On 2020. 04. 16. 19:27, Harold Foster
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Thanks to everyone that has replied - addressing things brought up
and some that haven't been..
For counting, my go-to combination is a 5335A with a 5340A (LED,
but have the obligatory Nixie for eye-candy) for the high end.?
While I love the accuracy the 53310a brings to frequency, rise
time and jitter, it's that those are only a few of the things you
can use it to determine and also how many options it allows you to
approach any given criteria.? The more you use it, the more things
you think of to use it for.? Many may not necessarily be
the best way to solve a particular problem, but just the fact you
are taking a different approach can open up new ways of thinking
and solutions... it tends to make me say "Huh... How about that?"
a lot.
Tam: you are right, but at least the repairs to the PSU and such
is pretty easily done.? Also, there are several products HP came
out with around then that share the same case... and power
supply.? From what I've read, there are several revisions of the
PSU and not all are as prone to failure as some.? That is from a
couple references and I sure wish I remembered which ones; only
preemptively replace the caps on the troublesome versions?
Re options, my daily driver has all of them and I just bought the
SRAM to bring my other three up to the deep memory (I scored a
deal on a batch of four locally.)? Of those only one has PS issues
and, while the replacement caps have been bought, I just haven't
had time to get into it - I work for a Gov contractor and
evidently schedules haven't heard much about pandemics yet ;-)
On the plus side, I just walked in back and saw a pallet of 12
3458A's and 4 Fluke 5522A's... pure nerd porn.
Hal
Hal
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Re: HP 53310A - Why did I not know about this sooner?
Hello,
can maybe be fixed by
a) erasing the NVRAM
b) performing a local cal (painless, no external shit needed).
Tam
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On 2020. 04. 18. 20:37, Bill E wrote:
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I now have 2 units on their way to me. As I mentioned, 1st is
supposedly working, passes self-test. The other I picked up cheap
as non-working, figured it would be useful for spares. It has the
031 option, which the working one doesn't. The error the seller
shows from the diagnostics is FAIL on interpolator chan1 and
chan2, everything else passes. Any ideas about this? Repairable?
If not, can I just do a rom swap with the working board and
install that in the 031 optioned unit?
Bill
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Re: Wanted operator serves manual for HP 8402B
Use usa-importservice.
I use them quite frequently, and can slink your package into the big box when Raper finally returns all of the test equipment he has on loan. And also when I finally get around to closing the two transactions I still have open on this list...
Tam
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On 2020. 04. 17. 13:55, Szabolcs Szigeti wrote: Hi,
There is one on eBay, unfortunately the overseas postage makes it
quite expensive. Maybe someone in the US is willing to buy and have it
scanned. I'm sure some of us would be willing to contribute to it.
Szabolcs
Paul Bicknell <paul@...> ezt írta (id?pont: 2020. ápr.
17., P, 0:58):
Hi all
Looking for operator serves manual for HP 8402B
Unfortunately Dave at Artek dues not have it
Regards Paul; ~England
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Re: Agilent 8753es Option 11 and TDR Measurements...
Burt,
? ? ?I think that the minimum you can get by with for TDR measurements with option 10 is a splitter and a coupler (or bridge).? (That is most of a T/R test set).? The source connector feeds the splitter, which then feeds the R channel and the coupler.? The coupler connects to the DUT, and the coupled reflected signal from the DUT connects to the A channel.? There are cheap ($12) 3GHz bridges on eBay that would probably do for a start.? You would also need short, open, and load standards for whatever sort of connectors your DUT has.? You can look up how to make your own standards.
? ? ?If you find a dual directional coupler that covers the frequencies you are interested in, you can skip the splitter.? The forward coupled path goes to the R input, the reverse coupled path goes to A.
--John Gord
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On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 08:37 PM, Burt K6OQK wrote:
Greetings all,
I have an Agilent 8753es Option 11 and Option 10 instrument.? My question is... Does it require the S Parameter unit (underneath thingy) in order to make TDR/FDR measurements?? I do not have the S Parameter unit.
Thanks,
Burt, K6OQK
Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, CA 91201 U.S.A.
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Re: new File called App notes
App notes mean Application notes. Publications that explained how to use instruments. They varied from a single sheet to practically a book. -hp- had some very good app notes on spectrum analysis and impedance mesurement. General Radio also published ap notes on various techniques such as sound measurement. These publications were often ahead of any text book.
?? I don't mean to take this away from Dave but its an example to me of how once perfectly obvious meanings have been lost with time.
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On 4/18/2020 1:56 PM, ArtekManuals wrote: Paul
I am not sure what you mean by an app note ..please give an example. In my world an App is just another word ( millennial speak) for a "program". A lot like Hz replaced Cycle. Since 95% of those on this list are old enough to remember cycles do you want us to load equipment related programs uyo your App folder?
Dave
PS: I sent you another private email earlier today to which you didn't respond ?
On 4/18/2020 4:35 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
new File called App notes
Hi all
Recently I have beenlookingat app notes for equipment andrealisedwe do not have acollectionon the site
SoIn the File section I have made a File? called *App notes*
CouldIask you all to helpwithputtingany App notes you have in PDF format? into the new file
Best Regards Paul
--
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dickburk@...
WB6KBL
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Re: HP 652A Dial Calibration
I agree, it's not a good idea to start bending plates on that big three-way air variable capacitor.? Once done there's really no way to go back, and I suspect you'd be likely to make things worse rather than better.
The HP 651 has a complex frequency-calibration procedure in the service manual.? Adjusting the calibration on some bands requires changing out a pair of selected-at-manufacture-time resistors on the bandswitch.? For some other band there's an adjustment capacitor.? I believe that the 652 has the same architecture, and I'd recommend following the manual instructions carefully if you decide to do this.
One thing it would probably be good to do first... measure, record, and plot the actual frequencies on each of the bands at each major digit position.? By comparing the bands you may be able to see whether there's an overall shift in the calibration affecting most or all of the bands (which would point to a dial-positioning or main-capacitor issue) or whether some bands are shifted differently than others (which might suggest that the band-specific resistors or caps are out of whack).
The 651B is only spec'ed to 2% frequency accuracy on some bands and 3% on others, so exact dial calibration can't really be expected.
Oh... make sure that you take your measurements with the cabinet lid and base on and the screws tightened, as the manual advises.? There's a very significant frequency and calibration shift if you take off the lid... the parasitic capacitance from the active circuit to the case is part of the equation!
Also, check the tuning cap for contamination (dust, etc.) - if there's any present it could throw things off.? I bought a 651 which was quite balky and wouldn't oscillate at all in some portions of the dial range (on any band).? I found some dark gunk on the plates, and splashed in a few places around the base of the capacitor... looked as if somebody had spattered Coca Cola on it.? It took a good, careful water-wash to get it out (and then a spritz with contact cleaner to flush out the water, and some blown air to dry it properly) and now it oscillates and tracks nicely.? (It also had the "HP grease turns to cement with age" problem, and I had to do a strip-down/clean/lubricate much as you did.)
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Agilent 8753es Option 11 and TDR Measurements...
Greetings all,
I have an Agilent 8753es Option 11 and Option 10 instrument.? My question is... Does it require the S Parameter unit (underneath thingy) in order to make TDR/FDR measurements?? I do not have the S Parameter unit.
Thanks,
Burt, K6OQK
Burt I. Weiner Associates
Broadcast Technical Services
Glendale, CA 91201 U.S.A.
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Re: new File called App notes
Hi Dave OK I didn't realise hoe good the existing storage of application was
Its just that we have hade a few Emails on the lately
Regards Paul
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Daniel Sent: 19 April 2020 02:05 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes My thoughts exactly. App notes are over the web already. Remember, our storage is not free. DaveD On Apr 18, 2020, at 17:32, Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
I think it might not be such a great idea to try to accumulate all of
those in the files section here. I don't have anywhere near all of HP's
app notes, but the ones I do have total half a gigabyte.
All of the app notes that have been recovered, at least as far as I
know, are available on the HP Memory Project web site, under Resources.
-Dave
On 4/18/20 5:12 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
Hi Dave
An app note such as this title
AN 187-6
The Frequency Performance of the 8620C Oscillator Under Remote Programming
Regards Paul
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave
McGuire Sent: 18 April 2020 22:01
To: [email protected]; ArtekManuals
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes
Dave you've got to be pulling our collective leg here. Surely you've
seen the app notes that HP has published for more than half a century?
There's solid gold in those publications!
-Dave
On April 18, 2020 4:56:30 PM "ArtekManuals" <manuals@...>
wrote:
Paul
I am not sure what you mean by an app note ..please give an example. In
my world an App is just another word ( millennial speak) for a
"program". A lot like Hz replaced Cycle. Since 95% of those on this list
are old enough to remember cycles do you want us to load equipment
related programs uyo your App folder?
Dave
PS: I sent you another private email earlier today to which you didn't
respond ?
On 4/18/2020 4:35 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
new File called App notes
Hi all
Recently I have beenlookingat app notes for equipment andrealisedwe
do not have acollectionon the site
SoIn the File section I have made a File called *App notes*
CouldIask you all to helpwithputtingany App notes you have in PDF
format into the new file
Best Regards Paul
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Re: new File called App notes
On that point it appears lots of software was lost when HP / Agilent had
the Fire as finding any programmes for the HP 700000 equipment is like hens
teeth personally I am finding the programmes are like rocking horse
droppings
Regards Paul
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy ZL3AG via groups.io Sent: 19 April 2020 01:10 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes ANYTHING that is on the Keysight website and nowhere else needs to be archived ASAP. Lots of really useful stuff has already disappeared - much of it on agilent.com URL's. If they split Keysight up and the TE goes with the new brand AGAIN, we're screwed! I've being trying to hunt down VXI stuff and it comes up on the Google, but points to web/ftp hosts that no longer exist. :^( Really we need a copy of those on the Keysight website, but it is best not to distribute them if they are on the Keysight website.
Dave
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Re: new File called App notes
Hi DEick
Thank you for the link to a site with Application notes on
I have already had my leg pulled about calling them (App notes)
As apparently it ids not considered correct English
Regards Paul at 3.30 am in the UK
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected][mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dick Benson Sent: 19 April 2020 01:00 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes Greetings, Many of the HP ANs can be found here: I have 100+ of these (including AN-1 and AN-2), but all paper. It might be more efficient to fill in the holes on the above site. Just a thought ... Dick Sent from a?Virus Free?Asylum deep within The?Sanctuary State?of California using?my phoneI V11.01 Pro? Bibimus Ergo Sumus, En Vino Veritas, Quaerite et Invenietis, Illegitimi non Carborundum ? ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.8048 / Virus Database: 4793/15886 - Release Date: 08/14/18 Internal Virus Database is out of date.
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Re: new File called App notes
Hi Glen
Thank you ??
I think a few of the emails are just in
jest and I am OK with that
Regards Paul
?
?
I’m not one of the Daves, but know how to find the HP.?
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On Apr 18, 2020, at
16:51, Paul Bicknell <paul@...> wrote:
?
Hi Dave ?, Dave ?& Dave
Half a gigabyte ?I was expecting to see perhaps 100 application notes
totalling ?1000 pages so a rethink
You say all are available on the HP Memory Project web site, under Resources
How about a simple link to the Memory Project
Just an Idea
Regards Paul ????(any more Dave's to come back on this one
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Re: new File called App notes
My thoughts exactly. App notes are over the web already. Remember, our storage is not free.
DaveD
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On Apr 18, 2020, at 17:32, Dave McGuire <mcguire@...> wrote:
I think it might not be such a great idea to try to accumulate all of
those in the files section here. I don't have anywhere near all of HP's
app notes, but the ones I do have total half a gigabyte.
All of the app notes that have been recovered, at least as far as I
know, are available on the HP Memory Project web site, under Resources.
-Dave
On 4/18/20 5:12 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
Hi Dave
An app note such as this title
AN 187-6
The Frequency Performance of the 8620C Oscillator Under Remote Programming
Regards Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave McGuire
Sent: 18 April 2020 22:01
To: [email protected]; ArtekManuals
Subject: Re: [HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment] new File called App notes
Dave you've got to be pulling our collective leg here. Surely you've seen
the app notes that HP has published for more than half a century? There's
solid gold in those publications!
-Dave
On April 18, 2020 4:56:30 PM "ArtekManuals" <manuals@...>
wrote:
Paul
I am not sure what you mean by an app note ..please give an example. In
my world an App is just another word ( millennial speak) for a
"program". A lot like Hz replaced Cycle. Since 95% of those on this list
are old enough to remember cycles do you want us to load equipment
related programs uyo your App folder?
Dave
PS: I sent you another private email earlier today to which you didn't
respond ?
On 4/18/2020 4:35 PM, Paul Bicknell wrote:
new File called App notes
Hi all
Recently I have beenlookingat app notes for equipment andrealisedwe
do not have acollectionon the site
SoIn the File section I have made a File called *App notes*
CouldIask you all to helpwithputtingany App notes you have in PDF
format into the new file
Best Regards Paul
--
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Manuals@...
www.ArtekManuals.com
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Re: Do ManualsPlus still exist
What a great article!
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On 19/04/20 4:40 am, John Dusatko wrote: Apparently there was an effort made to preserve their inventory.
Found an interesting article about this:
The article was written in 2015, dunno what has happened since then.
/John
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Re: new File called App notes
ANYTHING that is on the Keysight website and nowhere else needs to be archived ASAP. Lots of really useful stuff has already disappeared - much of it on agilent.com URL's. If they split Keysight up and the TE goes with the new brand AGAIN, we're screwed!
I've being trying to hunt down VXI stuff and it comes up on the Google, but points to web/ftp hosts that no longer exist. :^(
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Really we need a copy of those on the Keysight website, but it is best not to distribute them if they are on the Keysight website.
Dave
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Jos Raven PA0AMX
Burt K6OQK