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Re: HP 6012B volt zero and current regulation

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

On Sun, 19 Aug 2018 at 22:45, george edmonds via Groups.Io <G6HIG=[email protected]> wrote:
NO This is the typical behaviour of a light bulb,

73 George G6HIG

Sure a lightbulb draws more current when cold, but if I understand the original poster correctly, he has set a current limit of 4 A on the PSU, so one would not expect to be able to get 5 A from it, even with a dead short. Without a detailed looked at the specifications, it is hard to know what is normal and what is not.

There are some pretty beefy FETs around with a low on-resistantance, which could be driven with a function generator to quickly (or slowly) change the load resistance.


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Re: HP 6012B volt zero and current regulation

 

NO This is the typical behaviour of a light bulb,

73 George G6HIG


On Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:40 PM, "wilson2115@..." <wilson2115@...> wrote:


Hello, I had a account from yahoo groups agilent and I recently transferred over.

I have a HP 6012B which I successfully repaired the current potentiometer so no more issue with the supply going full 60 amps with the slightest turn of the knob.

However I have some minor calibration issues if anyone could assist. I notice the volts on the display will not go below 0.2-0.1 volts at the full counter clockwise position, it also reads the same on the voltmeter. I am studying the manual to see where those adjustments are.

Also, when I test the amperage control by using a light bulb and a voltmeter in parallel to measure the current, if I set the current to 4 amps and quickly ramp the voltage the current peaks at 5 amps briefly before going back down to 4 amps a fraction of a second later. Could this be a typical overshoot characteristic of this supply?

Thanks



HP 6012B volt zero and current regulation

 

Hello, I had a account from yahoo groups agilent and I recently transferred over.

I have a HP 6012B which I successfully repaired the current potentiometer so no more issue with the supply going full 60 amps with the slightest turn of the knob.

However I have some minor calibration issues if anyone could assist. I notice the volts on the display will not go below 0.2-0.1 volts at the full counter clockwise position, it also reads the same on the voltmeter. I am studying the manual to see where those adjustments are.

Also, when I test the amperage control by using a light bulb and a voltmeter in parallel to measure the current, if I set the current to 4 amps and quickly ramp the voltage the current peaks at 5 amps briefly before going back down to 4 amps a fraction of a second later. Could this be a typical overshoot characteristic of this supply?

Thanks


Transfer from Yahoo to groups.io is now in the queue.

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

You may have seen this message on the Yahoo HP/Agilent list, but if not, I will put it here too.

I have selected the "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button with the following selected:

* Transfer Members
* Transfer Messages
* Transfer Photos
* Transfer Files
* Transfer Links
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The message

"We are in process of transferring your group. Depending on Yahoo and demand, this may take several days. You will be notified by email when the transfer is completed."

It is worth noting the contents of a previous email from , which said:

"IMPORTANT: Yahoo Groups has been very unreliable lately. We will do our very best, but there is a good chance that we may not be able to transfer all of your messages, photos or files. We will tell you which ones we were not able to transfer. Also, the migration queue is several days long at this point. Please be patient as we work through the backlog of tranfer requests."

So I don't know how long this will take, and there's a good chance it will not work perfectly, but I will try to resolve any issues later.

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Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100


Latest update of transfer to groups.io - I have hit "Give Go Ahead to Transfer"

Dr. David Kirkby
 

There does not appear to bern any messages coming through for several hours, so I thought it wise to start the copy to .? I have selected the "Give Go Ahead to Transfer" button with the following selected:

* Transfer Members
* Transfer Messages
* Transfer Photos
* Transfer Files
* Transfer Links
* Transfer Database

The message

"We are in process of transferring your group. Depending on Yahoo and demand, this may take several days. You will be notified by email when the transfer is completed."

It is worth noting the contents of a previous email from , which said:

"IMPORTANT: Yahoo Groups has been very unreliable lately. We will do our very best, but there is a good chance that we may not be able to transfer all of your messages, photos or files. We will tell you which ones we were not able to transfer. Also, the migration queue is several days long at this point. Please be patient as we work through the backlog of tranfer requests."

So I don't know how long this will take, and there's a good chance it will not work perfectly, but I will try to resolve any issues later.

If you want to use the services of , I suggest you subscribe yourself, as its anyone's guess how long it will take for your account to be copied to . Go to, read what it says, and follow the instructions.

/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment

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Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100


HP 4145B Software Revisions

 

Anyone know the differences between the 4145B software revisions 1.0 and 1.2? Also, between revision 1.2 and 1.3? - George


Re: intro on groups.io

 

So far, so good.


Re: intro on groups.io

 

Well, I made it here now too.?

Daun


Re: HP8656A Signal Generator

 

Hi Ken

This is the HP user group.

73 George G6HIG


On Sunday, August 19, 2018 5:46 PM, KEN WRIGHT via Groups.Io <ken.h.wright@...> wrote:


I have access to an HP8656A 0 - 999MHz signal Generator which has not been used for some time, it seems to power up all buttons function ok but there is no output on the front N Type or the BNC output on the rear panel. I have done the manual reset for Reverse Power Protection, still no output. On the rear there listed are some? HP - IB commands ? RO? RF OFF State, ? RI? RF ON State,?? RP? Reset Reverse Power Protection. Is it possible that the last user ha d used the RO command and turned off the output, after several months would this command still be valid? any means of checking if this has happened? if so can it turned on without having access to HP-IB?? or do I have a more fundamental problem?? I have spent a considerable amount of time on the internet but no solution, also been trying to find an HP user group but no luck. Any help/advise gratefully appreciated.
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Ken Wright ? M0KHW? ?
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HP8656A Signal Generator

 

I have access to an HP8656A 0 - 999MHz signal Generator which has not been used for some time, it seems to power up all buttons function ok but there is no output on the front N Type or the BNC output on the rear panel. I have done the manual reset for Reverse Power Protection, still no output. On the rear there listed are some? HP - IB commands ? RO? RF OFF State, ? RI? RF ON State,?? RP? Reset Reverse Power Protection. Is it possible that the last user ha d used the RO command and turned off the output, after several months would this command still be valid? any means of checking if this has happened? if so can it turned on without having access to HP-IB?? or do I have a more fundamental problem?? I have spent a considerable amount of time on the internet but no solution, also been trying to find an HP user group but no luck. Any help/advise gratefully appreciated.
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Ken Wright ? M0KHW? ?
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Further information about the transfer to groups.io

Dr. David Kirkby
 

At the minute, NOTHING has been copied from the HP/Agilent Yahoo group. All 95 member on /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment have subscribed themselves. Around 2 members are subscribing each hour now.

I am in the position to start copying almost everything, including the email addresses of account holders, and all the data. I have NOT started this yet, for a good reason.

I have put this group into 'moderation mode'. All posts will be moderated. Any attempt to start a new topic will be declined, but this gives me the option of permitting any post that may have taken some time to arrive, to appear on Yahoo.

Sometime between 21:00 GMT today (Sunday), and 09:00 GMT tomorrow (Monday) I will

1) Bounce all messages from here - nobody will be able to post.
2) Start the copy from Yahoo to

The copy process can take a week or more, and may not be 100% complete. During this time, accounts and posts will be slowly copied by , as Yahoo block any attempts to make massive downloads of data. During this time, your account may or may not be on .

IF YOU WANT TO POST NOW, SUBSCRIBE MANUALLY at
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/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment

That will guarantee your account exists. But otherwise, it should hopefully be copied over during the next week or so. If you create your account? yourself, when the copy comes, your account will not be copied.

By not commencing the copy immediately, it should allow the Yahoo messages to be completed, and a "clean" copy made. If the copy was started immediately, some messages that are held up in the system might never get to .

Dave?

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Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100


Feet for HP8672A

 

Where does one got looking for new feet for the back of a 8672A?
I just unwrapped my recent eBay purchase and its missing 2 of them.
Unit seem to work and other than a broken off slide switch lever on the ALC selector I think I am a happy owner of a functional signal generator.

Thanks
Dave
VE7HR


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Please no more posts to this forum.

Dr. David Kirkby
 


It is suggested that nobody posts on this forum - in particular do not start any new topics.

Please go to

/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment

Somewhere between 21:00 GMT on Sunday, August 19th and? 09:00 GMT on Monday 20th August, I will set all messages to bounce, with hopefully a notice to say go to /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment

The number of members on /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment is increasing rapidly, with around 2 members signing up every hour.

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Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100


Re: Machinable Potting Material ???

 

although i've not tried it myself, there are many videos and posts showing that superglue plus baking soda makes a very durable material.

73 ac2pl


MSO 6054A: Firmware versions older than 6.20

 

Hello, if someone has the system6000.jzp prior to 06.20.0000 Apr 23 2015 10:42:11 please PM me or post where it can be downloaded. On the Keysight site all the previous versions are gone.

?Many thanks


Reliability of FieldFox portable VNAs, SAs and combination analyzers

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

Some years ago I bought a CertiPrime N9923A from Agilent. It developed a hardware fault within a month or so.

Sometime later, someone I know bought an N9912A combination analyzer. I checked that for him. The performance was poor as a VNA, (dynamic range is typically 49 dB at 5-6 GHz), but I understand the N9912A is only for basic measurements. But the instrument worked okay. Then, despite me knowing that the N9912A is not a good VNA, I got the chance to pick one up cheap and bought it. That was dead on arrival.

A week or so ago I was talking to a customer of mine, who said he had heard reports from several sources about poor reliability of FieldFox instruments



I'm just wondering if others have experienced this problem. I guess it is going to be hard to get any hard facts about this, as I doubt Keysight will be publishing MTBF data.

Having handled a couple of N9912As (SA+VNA), and one N9923A (VNA), I'm impressed with the build quality. But now I am starting to wonder how relieable these instruments are. They might be quite risky used purchases.

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Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100


Re: Machinable Potting Material ???

 

If you have a drill press, you can chuck a threaded screw and drill the tap hole for 4-40 by feeding the quill onto a drill bit held stationary in a chuck.? I used this technique to salvage an $85 air valve on a Toyota Tercel.

I'd broken a plastic teet off taking it off.? So I drilled the proper size hole in a length of a #10-24 screw, shaped the end with a file in the drill press, took it out.? I don't recall now if I used a tap or? cut a groove? to tap the plastic and.? I put epoxy on the threads and screwed it.? It worked like a charm.

The principle here is that a rotating workpiece will cause the drill to follow the center of rotation.?

You can see the setup I used here:



It didn't aign as well as needed for the differential screw, but for your purpose it would be fine.


Re: intro on groups.io

 

Hello Pete,

I'm sure people will move up here slowly, at least I only got your post once............


Sunday, August 19, 2018, 11:20:25 AM, you wrote:


On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 at 19:49, saipan59 <saipan1959@...> wrote:

I hope I'm not being a bore, but I don't see any posts yet on the new IO group, so I'm doing one.

Pete
Hopefully that will change now. I've put a notice on the Yahoo group, asking people not to post there, and instead use here. The number of members is increasing rapidly now. 8 People have joined in the last couple of hours, and most people in the USA are probably asleep now.

So hopefully this group will start working well soon.
?
Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100




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?John ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
mailto:john@...


Re: intro on groups.io

Dr. David Kirkby from Kirkby Microwave Ltd
 

On Wed, 15 Aug 2018 at 19:49, saipan59 <saipan1959@...> wrote:
I hope I'm not being a bore, but I don't see any posts yet on the new IO group, so I'm doing one.

Pete

Hopefully that will change now. I've put a notice on the Yahoo group, asking people not to post there, and instead use here. The number of members is increasing rapidly now. 8 People have joined in the last couple of hours, and most people in the USA are probably asleep now.

So hopefully this group will start working well soon.
?
Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100


IMPORTANT - Transfer to groups.io will commence soon. Please STOP POSTING here!

Dr. David Kirkby
 

I inadvertently sent the previous message before finish compiling it.?

What happens next

1) Please stop posting here. If you require immediate support, join /g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment now. The instructions and description of the group are there. If you don't require immediate support, then just wait and should hopefully get subscribed automatically. I say hopefully because a message from says

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IMPORTANT: Yahoo Groups has been very unreliable lately. We will do our very best, but there is a good chance that we may not be able to transfer all of your messages, photos or files. We will tell you which ones we were not able to transfer. Also, the migration queue is several days long at this point. Please be patient as we work through the backlog of tranfer requests.
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2) I will wait until at least 21:00 GMT on Sunday, August 19th before bouncing messages on the HP/Agilent Yahoo group. If messages are still coming in, due to delays in the mail system, I might leave it as late as 09:00 GMT on Monday 20th August before bouncing messages.

3) The following messages will probably be deleted, on Yahoo,








as the author does not want them transferred. I'm trying to negotiate a possible solution to this, but those might be deleted, so read them now if you want them. There's not a huge amount of information.

4) I will start the copying of data from Yahoo to . With the exception of those messages listed above, everything will hopefully be copied over, but I can't guarantee that. The message I received today from says the following

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IMPORTANT: Yahoo Groups has been very unreliable lately. We will do our very best, but there is a good chance that we may not be able to transfer all of your messages, photos or files. We will tell you which ones we were not able to transfer. Also, the migration queue is several days long at this point. Please be patient as we work through the backlog of tranfer requests.
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Note the migration may take several days, and may not be 100% complete.

In future, hopefully,

/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment

will give us good service. If you have any queries, please email me directly at drkirkby@...

Dave, G8WRB

Dr David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET
Kirkby Microwave Ltd
Registered office: Stokes Hall Lodge, Burnham Rd, Althorne, CHELMSFORD, Essex, CM3 6DT, United Kingdom.
Registered in England and Wales as company number 08914892

Tel 01621-680100 / +44 1621-680100