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Re: HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

 

DUH....



You might look into a TFT display replacement. I have one in my HP-8567A and I am well pleased with it.

You can look it here and download the Instruction Manual. You an browse his website and see what other upgrade kits that he has available.

RICH


From: "John Griessen john@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:06 PM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

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Does anyone have experience programming them with GPIB to make plots?
I'm wondering if that is a viable option since the displays are so old and fading...





Re: HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

 

You might look into a TFT display replacement. I have one in my HP-8567A and I am well pleased with it.

You can look it here and download the Instruction Manual. You an browse his website and see what other upgrade kits that he has available.

RICH


From: "John Griessen john@... [hp_agilent_equipment]"
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2015 2:06 PM
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

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Does anyone have experience programming them with GPIB to make plots?
I'm wondering if that is a viable option since the displays are so old and fading...



Re: HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

 

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Simmconn Labs has really nice LCD replacement kits if your display is fading. No financial interest, just a beta tester and happy customer!

Steve




On Oct 15, 2015, at 4:06 PM, John Griessen john@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

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Does anyone have experience programming them with GPIB to make plots?
I'm wondering if that is a viable option since the displays are so old and fading...


Re: HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

Tom Miller
 

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This works with the 8566A/B and the prologix USB.
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Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

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Does anyone have experience programming them with GPIB to make plots?
I'm wondering if that is a viable option since the displays are so old and fading...


HP-8566B, HP-8566A used without display

 

Does anyone have experience programming them with GPIB to make plots?
I'm wondering if that is a viable option since the displays are so old and fading...


Re: UPDATE on the HP-8568B SA's, Battery Time

Norman Thompson
 

Gedas,


For the battery.

remove the bottom cover of the RF unit.

undo the single screw holding the cover for the A15 board, remove that board.

the battery is mounted on the A15 board

Suitable 3.6v lithium battery replacements are Tadiran TL-5104 or Omnicel SL-760/P

Regards,

Norman


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Hello group. ?I have been able to purchase a 2nd HP-8568B SA unit, this one with the rear cables and with a HP-8444A (opt 059) tracking generator.? I was so happy to see that by swapping cables from one unit to the other, both 8568B's work just dandy, after the ovens warmed up. ?It amazed me at how close they both were in frequency and amplitude accuracy. ?I did however notice that one unit has a flashing "BATTERY" next to the cold oven indication while the unit warms up.

I have DL'ed every doc I could find on these units but before I rip into them to find and replace the battery can someone save me some time by possibly knowing whether the required battery is in the top or bottom unit and if the battery is difficult to get to and replace? ?Also, what battery type is needed.

I have also ordered a set of cables for the original SA unit.? I am so happy about these two units as they are clean with bright and crisp displays. ?I played with them till 3 AM and running the VBW down to 1 Hz was a real treat.? Having two separate RF inputs is a real hoot as well.......what a neat SA these are.? Thank you all that have helped me with tips on finding some cables and even a very kind sole who offered to lend me a pair so I could check my unit out before I purchased !
Gedas, W8BYA

Gallery at http://w8bya.com
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.




Re: Attenuators in HP/Agilent Infinium 548xx scopes

Peter Loron
 

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Jay, thanks very much for the information. I¡¯ll keep an eye out for proper ones.

-Pete

On Oct 15, 2015, at 03:56, jayw_comark@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:



Hi Pete,

The 54810A, 815A, 820A, and 825A use the same attenuators. They are also the same as the older 5452XA and 5454XA scopes. All of the above scopes also share the same A/D converters.

The 54835A and 54845A use different ones. They are dual units and there's two in each scope. Very un-repairable IME. There's a few on Ebay now for $500.

Jay?



Re: UPDATE on the HP-8568B SA's, Battery Time

 

Hi Vladan and thank you very, very much for that information. ?You told me exactly what I needed to know. ?I was afraid that I would lose important system data or information w/o the battery and would have to go through some kind of reprogramming etc. ?I will get a new battery ordered ASAP and drop it in.

Then my next task is to connect up the HP-8444A TG to one of the units to ensure it works. And if so, sell both units. ?I hate to do so but I must as it will hopefully provide some needed income into the household. ?Thank you again !

gedas, W8BYA

PS, for some reason I cannot reply to messages via e-mail like I used to be able to do and must log into the Yahoo group directly to make this post. ?It is weird as in some groups I am able to reply directly from e-mails and in others, like this one I cannot.


Re: UPDATE on the HP-8568B SA's, Battery Time

 

The battery is in the RF section (bottom box). In the "B" model, it's soldered into the processor board which is under a long, hinged sheet metal cover. I think it's the board with the green pull-out ears which will almost certainly crack when you try to pull it out. Try to pull it out without stressing the plastic handles.

You can actually see the battery before you pull the board out. Be careful with the ribbon cables when you re-insert the board. They can get pinched. The battery is a lithium AA size, but with leads. It's made by Tadiran. This is _not_ a rechargeable battery. It is available online and it seems to last approximately 15 years.

The only thing you lose when the battery dies is the ability to store user settings.

On the "A" models, the battery is behind the keyboard and it's a NiCd pack that usually leaks.

Vladan


UPDATE on the HP-8568B SA's, Battery Time

 

Hello group. ?I have been able to purchase a 2nd HP-8568B SA unit, this one with the rear cables and with a HP-8444A (opt 059) tracking generator.? I was so happy to see that by swapping cables from one unit to the other, both 8568B's work just dandy, after the ovens warmed up. ?It amazed me at how close they both were in frequency and amplitude accuracy. ?I did however notice that one unit has a flashing "BATTERY" next to the cold oven indication while the unit warms up.


I have DL'ed every doc I could find on these units but before I rip into them to find and replace the battery can someone save me some time by possibly knowing whether the required battery is in the top or bottom unit and if the battery is difficult to get to and replace? ?Also, what battery type is needed.

I have also ordered a set of cables for the original SA unit.? I am so happy about these two units as they are clean with bright and crisp displays. ?I played with them till 3 AM and running the VBW down to 1 Hz was a real treat.? Having two separate RF inputs is a real hoot as well.......what a neat SA these are.? Thank you all that have helped me with tips on finding some cables and even a very kind sole who offered to lend me a pair so I could check my unit out before I purchased !

Gedas, W8BYA

Gallery at http://w8bya.com
Light travels faster than sound....
This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.



Re: HP3325 transistor

 

Wally

I think this is what you are looking for: > eBay item number: 361297807134 <
I have purchased from them, made reasonable offers, always happy with results.

Dennis


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On Thu, 10/15/15, wallydoc@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP3325 transistor
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2015, 9:53 AM






























I broke and rebuilt a HP 3325A function generator.
It appears that everything works up to the power
amp.Power amp has had most transistors
replaced and does give out an appropriate signal as far as
amplitude.The wave forms are OK at the
test point prior to the final. The output sine waveform from
final is distorted and of course square is distorted at
higher freq.I was planning to replace
the power amp input dual transistor 1845-0357 (SD2608).I
think it's selenium 360mW NPN. I cannot find SD2608 or a
cross to it. There is an original 1854-0357 on E
Pay.Does anyone know what this crosses
to?Do you think this could be the
problem?Any other suggestions as to
aligning the final amp? Any particulars as to the
replacement of transistors?Wally
KC9INK


HP3325 transistor

 

I broke and rebuilt a HP 3325A function generator. It appears that everything works up to the power amp.

Power amp has had most transistors replaced and does give out an appropriate signal as far as amplitude.

The wave forms are OK at the test point prior to the final. The output sine waveform from final is distorted and of course square is distorted at higher freq.

I was planning to replace the power amp input dual transistor 1845-0357 (SD2608).I think it's selenium 360mW NPN. I cannot find SD2608 or a cross to it. There is an original 1854-0357 on E Pay.

Does anyone know what this crosses to?

Do you think this could be the problem?

Any other suggestions as to aligning the final amp? Any particulars as to the replacement of transistors?

Wally KC9INK


Re: Attenuators in HP/Agilent Infinium 548xx scopes

 

Hi Pete,

The 54810A, 815A, 820A, and 825A use the same attenuators. They are also the same as the older 5452XA and 5454XA scopes. All of the above scopes also share the same A/D converters.

The 54835A and 54845A use different ones. They are dual units and there's two in each scope. Very un-repairable IME. There's a few on Ebay now for $500.

Jay


Re: HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

 

Thank you Vladan, I got that manual and it helped a lot. I'll give it a try tomorrow.
Regards, Lenny Wintfeld (ham radio call: W2BVH)

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From: pianovt@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
To: hp agilent equipment <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Sent: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 22:58:08 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

Lenny,

The 853 storage, if I remember correctly, was based on the HP 8750A Storage Normalizer. The buttons have different names, but the concept is similar. You may find some useful instructions in the HP 8750 manual which you can find on the web.

Vladan


Re: HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

 

How "high" is the level? Depending on the bandwidth and power level, you may want to avoid this method on some devices. Passive devices and amplifiers through VHF should be no problem. In the microwave range, some amplifiers can be damaged by noise testing - they can't handle the peak voltages, even though the average power may be quite small.

The fastest, tiniest devices are most at risk because they can only take so much peak energy, regardless of the power spectrum. To get high average power in broadband noise signals, large voltage excursions are needed. You can see the envelope of these in the time domain, and consider what effect the peak voltage may have on the DUT and the measuring equipment. If the peaks are equivalent to less than the peak CW voltage that the device can handle, then it should be no problem.

Also consider the same regarding the SA input capability. This is aggravated by the low test signal power spectral density - in order to see the fairly small resulting power levels, the front-end needs to be set to higher sensitivity ranges, so the front step attenuator that usually protects somewhat against typical RF CW levels may be set to minimal attenuation. It's good practice to keep at least 10 dB attenuation up front, but it's easy to forget during operation, exposing the mixer to possible damage.

If the SA goes to microwave ranges, but the required DUT and noise bandwidth are much smaller, say audio up to VHF, I'd recommend adding a diode-clamp type limiter to protect the SA input, just in case. Then you won't have to worry about the peaks, and can try to get as much noise source power as possible - you'll want all you can get to provide reasonable test levels.

For lower frequency SAs and such with high impedance input, there's usually plenty of input protection, so noise testing should be no problem.

Ed


Re: HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

 

Lenny,

The 853 storage, if I remember correctly, was based on the HP 8750A Storage Normalizer. The buttons have different names, but the concept is similar. You may find some useful instructions in the HP 8750 manual which you can find on the web.

Vladan


Re: HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

Bill Lauchlan
 

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I suspect the 853A cannot subtract two STORED Traces. I think one of them will have to be Live. If your using Noise as your Signal, then you will need to use Noise Averaging, which the 853A will do. This will mean you will have two Noise Averaged Traces to Store before Subtraction. I don¡¯t think the 853A can do that. If you can extract these to a Computer, then the Computer can do the final math. This all pre-supposes that the 8559A is a good enough Spectrum Analyzer, which I doubt. It depends on what kind of accuracy you¡¯re looking for. Rgds Bill Lauchlan

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:03 PM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

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It is a fairly routine measurement to make, but it's usually done with
a network analyzer. It needn't be done with a VNA if you just want
frequency response (a scalar quantity...amplitude, no phase), a scalar
network analyzer will do the trick. One typically calibrates out test
fixtures and cables, but source leveling is usually done by the sweep
generator in a "set it and forget it" sort of way.

That said, I'm pretty sure the 853 frame can do stored trace
subtraction, but it's been so long since I've seen one I don't recall
exactly how. :-(

-Dave

On 10/14/2015 02:57 PM, w2bvh w2bvh@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
> I would like to use a high level noise source (one of those $15 Chinese
> boards) with a HP8559/853 to do filter and amplifier passband / stopband
> measurements. I know that in general I have store the noise source's
> output and then subtract the filter (or amplifier) output in order to
> normalize the measurement against the non-constant noise source output.
>
> I'm sure this must be a relatively routine measurement technique, but I
> don't know what buttons to press in what order on the 853A display unit
> to do this. The manual is pretty ambiguous about how to use the "A" and
> "B" "Trace" buttons.
>
> Could someone who does this routinely explain which buttons to press
> when? And maybe, more clearly, what each of them does?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: 83623B Synthesized Sweeper: notch at around 90MHz and unleveled directly above this notch

 

Hello Joe,

I wanted to get back to you regarding your offering to help here. Do you have an idea how the nominal frequency of the 5.4GHz VCO is adjusted, so that the loop will lock again in the right 100MHz Raster? Is it one of the trimpots or is it probably done by software, a calibration constant, which influences a DAC value and its output voltage on the RF Interface Board A20, which is then passed on to the Low Band Bias Board inside of the Low Band Assembly A24?
The Low Band Bias Board Revision of the blank PCB 5063-1601 is Rev. A, Datecode 3522.
This board revision has six trimpots and one trim cap. As I saw from the pictures from another member in this group, there must be at least who different revisions of this board.
I could surely reverse engineer the Low Band Bias Board as soon as I have the time to do so, but maybe you can save me that time if you can give me the required information. I now have a counter capable of measuring the 5.4GHz oscillator frequency in order to monitor the alignment.

It woulf be great if you could help me here.

Thanks and best regards,
Thomas


Re: HP 8559 / 853A How to peak hold and normalize display??

 

It is a fairly routine measurement to make, but it's usually done with
a network analyzer. It needn't be done with a VNA if you just want
frequency response (a scalar quantity...amplitude, no phase), a scalar
network analyzer will do the trick. One typically calibrates out test
fixtures and cables, but source leveling is usually done by the sweep
generator in a "set it and forget it" sort of way.

That said, I'm pretty sure the 853 frame can do stored trace
subtraction, but it's been so long since I've seen one I don't recall
exactly how. :-(

-Dave

On 10/14/2015 02:57 PM, w2bvh w2bvh@... [hp_agilent_equipment]
wrote:
I would like to use a high level noise source (one of those $15 Chinese
boards) with a HP8559/853 to do filter and amplifier passband / stopband
measurements. I know that in general I have store the noise source's
output and then subtract the filter (or amplifier) output in order to
normalize the measurement against the non-constant noise source output.

I'm sure this must be a relatively routine measurement technique, but I
don't know what buttons to press in what order on the 853A display unit
to do this. The manual is pretty ambiguous about how to use the "A" and
"B" "Trace" buttons.

Could someone who does this routinely explain which buttons to press
when? And maybe, more clearly, what each of them does?

Thanks in advance for any help.


--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Hp 141T

arie schellaars
 

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On Thu, 15/10/15, wb4yvo@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Hp 141T
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Received: Thursday, 15 October, 2015, 2:29 AM


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No I havent checked anything yet..Please send a
email to me and I can send pictures ?Maybe that will help
better..
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