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Re: HP8565 hacking/mods


 

one problem i find is that the market for stuff like this is soo small that
it isnt worth my time.
i cant afford to spend alot of time on things that have very little return
at oner time i had enough money to play for long periods of time
that isnt the case any longer im not as fotunate as john miles.

----- Original Message -----
From: John Miles
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] HP8565 hacking/mods


> Hi John,
> Yes I have seen that unit - I was pondering something more
> sophisticated. Along the lines of 100MSa/s to FPGA to digitize x,y or
> if and an embedded web-server to get the data out.

Keep in mind that there's no benefit to digitizing post-detected trace
signals (x and y) at rates beyond the bandwidth of the widest video filter,
typically a few MHz at most. And if you digitize the final IF, the
bandwidth may still be limited to a few MHz by other filters in the SA's
signal chain.

If you are that ambitious, I think the best approach -- meaning, the one
that would benefit others the most, and require you to do the least original
engineering work -- would be to launch a project using the USRP or other GNU
Radio peripherals as a general-purpose spectrum analyzer back end. Keep it
simple at first or you'll never get anywhere! Trust me on that...

> I figure I might
> have enough space on that board and use the control inputs for other
> purposes such as selected storage mode or other function since they
> wouldn't be controlling the tube any more. Still early ponderances -
> I only just got the SA and need to play with it a bit more!! I've
> decided its time to move into the exciting world of RF and high speed
> digital - spent enough of time on slow - medium speed digital and
> software - besides - that's what I do at work.

It's definitely a good idea to spend time coming to grips with the
limitations of what you have. The obvious specification deficiencies aren't
always the ones that will end up limiting your measurements.

> I was interested in your hybrid 2GHz vco and possible use as a yig
> stabilizer.

Heh... that will teach you all you (n)ever wanted to know about noise and
stability. Building a clean YIG synthesizer is a challenging project. I
still haven't managed to do as well as the old HP designs, even with
much-newer opamps and other parts... which is one reason I chickened out
when I realized I was faced with that sort of problem in my 8566 'redesign'
project. It will have to wait until I can devote a lot more time to it.

> I just realised that we looked at using your pc sound system where I
> work. We're now moving from SGIs into pcs and may be looking at it
> again. :-)

Oh, you mean the sound system I'm supposed to be working on right now. Oh,
yeah, THAT. :)

-- john, KE5FX

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