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Re: HP-8443A Tracking Generator Problems


lothar baier
 

ok for the counter to be able to count the marker frequency it will have to stop the sweep for a short time count the frequency and then keep on sweeping
What im trying to get across is that you will always get a marker even if your RF is dead on the tracking generator or the RF section

"David C. Hallam" <dhallam@...> wrote:
Now I am getting confused.

The spectrum analyzer screen has a line designated CENTER FREQUENCY. As you
turn the frequency knob on the 8553B RF section to move a signal peak to
coincide with this line, you can read the frequency of the signal from the
linear scale on the 8553B.

When the 8443A tracking generator is connected to the 141T system, it
generates a marker on the CENTER FREQUENCY line of the 141T display. As
above, when you move a signal peak to coincide with this line and place the
marker at the top of the peak, the 8443A will display the frequency of the
signal.

The marker is on the CENTER FREQUENCY line of the screen all the times,
input signal or no input signal.

What is happening is there is no display of frequency on the 8443A at any
time. Even when the marker is centered on the signal peak.

The 8443A is also capable of being used as a stand alone frequency counter.
If I connect my signal generator to the 8443A in this mode, the 8443A will
display the frequency of the signal generator output.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]On Behalf Of lothar baier
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 10:14 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP-8443A Tracking Generator
Problems

ok there are two basic ways to create a marker in a swept system, one is
called RF blanking the other one is called intensity modulation, ok usually
you have a control voltage thats proportional to your RF frequency, if the
analyzer sweeps its basically a ramp, each point of the ramp corresponds to
a certain frequency, you feed this signal to a comparator and compare it to
a DC voltage thats adjustable (coming from your marker pot) anytime the ramp
"hits" this threshold you get a pulse on your comparator output, you route
this pulse back into your display and use it to crank up the intensity just
a bit at this point and there you have a marker blip on your screen :) you
could also use this pulse to turn the RF of your TG off for just a moment
but then you would end up with a dark spot as a marker for a short time
instead of beein brighter.
Your statement about you seein a bright blip on your screen as a marker
along with the statement about you seen the marker even with the calibator
connected to your RF section input makes me certain that your markers are
intensity modulated !

"David C. Hallam" <dhallam@...> wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]On Behalf Of lothar baier
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:21 AM
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: RE: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP-8443A Tracking Generator
Problems

have you ever considered a 5345A ? they are cheap, and they go to 500MHz

The marker does not really say anything, most of the time markers are
blanked in on the sweep trace not on the RF level, i havent looked in the
manual but thats how most generators and sweepers are doing it, the fact
that you see a marker blip without the RF output of the generator beein
connected to the SA input supports this.

I don't understand this statement. I have the 8443A connected to
the 141T SA system with the interconnect cable. Without this there would
be
no marker blip on the 141T screen.

one possibility is to build a pre-scaler for your counter to extend the
frequency range, the other one is that i could loan you a 500MHz counter
so
you can do the testing

"
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