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Re: 8568B YTO unlocked


 

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Tobias,

As?G?ran said, 8568 and 8566 are different design. I have no knowledge of 8568 so I can only speak for 8566.

In 8566, if the frequency span is less than 5mhz, YTO is phase locked during the entire sweep?— the FM coil is driven by the loop’s LPF?so that the YTO is phase locked. Side note, HP called it?“integrator" which is not what my?professor and textbook say. Integrator(1/s) is not LPF(a/(s+a)) mathematically but oh well...

For frequency span >5mhz, the YTO is?phase locked to the sweep start frequency during retrace(Lock), then the sample/hold circuit (between YTO’s second LPF and FM coil) is first in sample mode to store the tuning voltage from the LPF, then is placed in hold mode, which breaks the loop, the capacitor holds the constant voltage to the FM coil. Then the sweep ramp is fed to the YO mail coil to sweep(Roll).

This Lock-and-Roll scheme is also used in 8340/41 too.

Hope that helps!
Calvin



On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:53 PM, Tobias Pluess tobias.pluess@... [hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:


Calvin,

does that mean the YTO is unlocked during the sweep?

Tobias


-------- Original message --------
From: "Calvin Guan?guancalvin@...?[hp_agilent_equipment]" <hp_agilent_equipment@...>
Date: 10/16/17 00:20 (GMT+01:00)?
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: 8568B YTO unlocked?

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On my 8566b, if the span is greater than certain MHz, the sweep source is operate in “Lock and Roll” mode - locks to the sweep start frequency then applies a ramp to roll.

Calvin


On Oct 15, 2017, at 11:34 AM,?edbreya@...?[hp_agilent_equipment] <hp_agilent_equipment@...> wrote:

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I don't know about the screen flickering, but I do think the YTO loop behavior is normal. At wider spans it is not constantly phase-locked - it is driven open-loop with fairly accurate sweep current, and I think possibly re-phase-locked just at the beginning of the sweep each time around. For wide spans, you can't resolve the small frequency error on-screen anyway, but for narrow ones, more stability is needed, so the LO is locked. It's also possible that the narrow spans instead fix the first LO and use the second LO for sweeping - I can't recall for sure, but it should be one of those two schemes.

Definitely get the manual if you haven't already.

Ed




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