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Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard


 

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Hi Paul

I agree.??? I got concerned that the thread would get hijacked using Harvey's description.?????? HP-HIL is the "human Interface Loop" for keyboards and the like, and HP-IL is the "low power" loop to transfer data between instruments and other peripherals, sort of like a low power, serial version of HP-IB.??? Entirely different!??? So just to set the record straight.....

Daun

On 7/9/2017 5:18 PM, 'Paul Bicknell' paul@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:
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Hi Daun???

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I hope we are all??????????????? ???talking HP-HIL?????? keyboards??? to go with the 9000 / 100 / 200 / 300 computers and the 70 K?????? MMS???????????? 70004 display

Paul B

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From: hp_agilent_equipment@... [mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
Sent: 09 July 2017 20:37
To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
Subject: Re: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard

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Are we talking about HPIL, or HP-HIL here??????? These are two completely different things!

Daun

On 7/9/2017 3:31 PM, Harvey White madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment] wrote:

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On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 17:19:49 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

>
>Hi Harvey,
>You should take a look at this on ebay, not my listing.
>

Thanks for the info. The only things I have that uses HPIL are two HP
old pocket computers. I think one of my very old logic analyzers used
HPIL, but that's all I have. Those little pocket computers are not
currently functioning, though.

One of those attribution things.

Harvey

>
>HP HIL PS2 Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module frre shipping | eBay
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>| $ 39.99 | |
>
>HP HIL PS2 Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module frre shipping | eBay
> Selling a used working HP HIL PS2 Mouse Keyboard Adapter Module frre shipping to lower 48 states only. | eBay! | |
>
>
> On Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:16 AM, "Harvey White madyn@... [hp_agilent_equipment]" wrote:
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>
> ??? On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 12:54:13 +0100, you wrote:
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>>Hi all
>>
>>
>>Just a follow on from the E mail below so thank you to the author I
>>believe is named Bruno
>>
>>Did someone offer to make an inter face between different keyboards eg (
>>mine din or USB ) to HP-HIL USB
>>
>>
>>Also Digi key is a new company to me and although they have the connectors
>>is there any way of getting a better price
>
>The major distributors are Mouser, Digikey, Hamilton-Avnet. You might
>want to look at surplus distributors such as All Electronics,
>Electronics Goldmine, and (not quite a surplus distributor) Jameco.
>
>I've dealt with all of them, they're quite reliable. Sometimes prices
>for the major distributors do vary a bit, but be sure to figure in
>shipping and taxes as well.
>
>Harvey
>
>>
>>As i require 2 HP-HIL Keyboard leads
>>
>>
>>Best Regards Paul B
>>
>>
>>From: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>>[mailto:hp_agilent_equipment@...]
>>Sent: 05 April 2017 16:45
>>To: hp_agilent_equipment@...
>>Subject: [hp_agilent_equipment] Re: HP 9000 300 & HP-HIL keyboard
>>
>>
>>The TE Connectivity AMP Connectors 1-1761184-1 and 5-1761184-1 seem to match
>>the HP-HIL cable connectors.
>>
>>
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>>ocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English>
>>&DocNm=1761184&DocType=Customer+Drawing&DocLang=English
>>
>>
>>Where 1-1761184-1 has the "A" key for the One-Dot cable end and 5-1761184-1
>>has the "E" key for the Two-Dot cable end.
>>
>>
>>These appear to be a stocked item at Digikey and likely similar: Mouser,
>>Arrow, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Other manufacturer may be using the same SDL, Plug Modular Connector 4
>>Positions Position Shielded Crimp connectors for products other than HP-HIL.
>>
>>
>>I happened to have an IBM Point of Sale LCD Display that uses the "A" keyed
>>connector for it's receptacles/cables though it likely uses RS-485 vs.
>>HP-HIL. similar to:
>>
>>I tried the "A" (One-Dot) end of an HP-HIL in the receptacle of the LCD
>>display and it made good electrical contact and mechanically latched. The
>>IBM SDL cable that I have has "A" connectors on both ends and it has a
>>different pinout than the HP-HIL cable. Still, similar IBM POS cables might
>>be used for the "A" end of HP-HIL cable or by remapping the the wiring and
>>hacking the "A" key to fit in a "E" receptacle.
>>
>>
>>I provide this to add to the discussion and possibly stimulate others
>>research/evaluation. I make no claims to suitability/accuracy/etc. I don't
>>represent any of the vendors.
>>
>>
>>I thought I had an HP-HIL keyboard that I might use to help develop a "real"
>>PS/2 to HP-HIL converter, but it was an HP PS/2 keyboard with modular
>>cables. Also, my plan use for my logic analyzer with HP-HIL is as spare
>>parts for a newer logic analyzer with PS/2. So, my converter plans are
>>suspended.
>>
>>
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Daun E. Yeagley, II, N8ASB

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